Ticket pricing

dimitrispearljam

PJNB said:

dimitrispearljam said:

eyejacker said:

dimitrispearljam said:

eyejacker said:

I've been looking for general public sale prices, but have not found them anywhere... Can anyone point me in the right direction?

which show?

Taormina

prices is per ticket.
.4 sections..
level 1..level 2..level 3 with seat numbers..level 4 with no numbers at seats .first come first serve..
tickets prices below,probably with no fees..so more expensive at the total

Prezzi d'ingresso:
Poltronissima Platea e Tribunetta Centrale € 172,50
Poltrona Tribunetta Laterale € 115,00
Cavea Numerata € 97,75
Cavea Non Numerata € 80,50

http://www.ctbox.it/C23/2172/Content.aspx/Eventi/Concerti/Eddie_VEDDER-26_giugno_2017-Taormina_–_Teatro_Antico_–_ore_21_45-In_vendita_dal_10_marzo_2017_26_06_2017

Dimi is ctbox the correct website for the general sale or is that going to kick you to ticketone? Livenation seems to be hosting it but it kicks you out to ticketone I think.

probably.seems that the prices tho

buck502000

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kevtic

Merkin Baller said:

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kevtic said:

Merkin Baller said:

kevtic said:

Merkin Baller said:

Bentleyspop said:

I don't believe that anyone has mentioned on here that bands/musicians no longer make any money off of album/music releases.
The money is made from concert ticket sales, merchandise sales, and licensing for movies, tv, and commercials.

A great point, indeed.

Let's also not overlook the fact that these guys are in their 50s now and have young kids at home, they don't want to be on the road 6 months out of the year. Who would? The idea of him doing 36 Euro dates isn't realistic anymore.

This is true but other acts still seem to be able to do it cheaper with the same family situations. PJ haven't spent six months on the road in a very, very long time.

Like whom?

PJ & EV live shows are in high demand, I would be interested to hear of other acts that are as in demand charging less.

Iron Maiden, U2, GNR. Dave Matthews band are playing Hammersmith at around £60 a ticket. U2 and GNR are bigger acts than PJ and EV, Iron maiden probably are as well. Dave Matthews band i included as they are playing the same venue and have a whole band to account for along with associated costs. They are certainly on a par with EV at least although imagine they are probably a bigger act. Not sure how they would compare to PJ though.

Ed Sheeran one of the biggest tours to sell in recent times is only £77 a ticket. i could go on but you get the picture.

And PJ, as yet, haven't ripped off their UK fans.

Wow, 60 euro for that festival is amazing, and you folks are paying better prices than we are. I just paid $119 after fees for a single night at Boston Calling.

What are U2 & GnR charging for their solo shows? Last year GnR prices in the US were insane to start, but when sales faltered they started dropping.

Based on your post though, it looks like Euro concerts are cheaper than in the US.

UK concerts are way cheaper than the US but the gap is closing as you can see. Some acts are forcing the prices up and others are following them. Too many people are now being priced out. Even some of the smaller gigs that were £25/30 a few years ago are now hitting the £50/60 mark.

U2 is £78 standing. Seated tickets go from £40 up to £187. i think the upper prices are a rip off but at least you have other options.
GNR is £85 up to £95.
Maiden is about £65 from memory.
Dave Matthews as has been pointed out is not the band but 2 band members and it's £52.

Hold on now, if GnR is 85 - 95, and U2's average price is over 100, then Eddie isn't out of line with the 100 price tag, especially not for a 3-5K seat theater.

I misread your earlier post & thought you were paying around 60 Euro for those acts.

Sounds to me like Eddie's shows are priced fairly for the market over there.

Think you're missing the point. Those bands are established high end acts. vedder on his own isn't anywhere close to the size of those bands and U2 and GNR are stadiums gigs. Even though it now appears sites have changed the ticket band pricing for Vedder his top price ticket is still way over priced.

Smaller venues SHOULD cost more - would you rather see him in a 3K seat venue or a 50K seat venue?

We'll find out in a week or two if it's overpriced. If it is, the tickets won't sell.

If it's not, it will sell out quickly.

Why should smaller venues cost more? All the costs are lower. Way way lower than the cost for Wembley or Twickenham. I'd prefer to see any band in a 3k venue rather than a 50k. The point is those other bands can sell out 50k venues or bigger. Eddie can't.

I don't doubt the venue will sell out but it doesn't mean it is not overpriced IMO. At the top level ticket price.

Smaller venues should have higher ticket prices because there are fewer tickets to sell and it's a much more intimate & rewarding experience for the consumer. You can argue he wouldn't sell out a bigger venue, and you may be right, but I think most of us would prefer the intimate old timey theaters. (Maybe some would prefer cheaper tickets in a larger venue, which I could understand, I just wouldn't share that preference)

The price hike is a kick in the pants, I can't argue that. But the drastic markup notwithstanding, I don't think the final cost is all that outrageous for 2017, at least not when considering the demand for these shows.

IMO, something is only overpriced if people don't buy it. It may be too expensive for some, but that doesn't mean it's overpriced, not when there are other people willing to pay the price.

Buyers dictate the market, not sellers.

Edit: in fairness, like my2hands, I have no experience w/ the market in the U.K., and the price tag is hard to justify seeing the prices for Sting, but I stick by what I said above...... the buyer dictates the market, not the seller

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You chose stadium gigs by GNR and U2 as a basis for you thinking the price was fair but you ignored indoor gigs by iron maiden and members of the Dave Matthews band playing the same theatre also for 2 nights with a price of £65 and £52. I personally think that around 370 top price would have been fair. It shouldn't be about squeezing as much as you can from the fans although sadly these days that is exactly what it is.

I guess it just saddens me that i thought Eddie was a bit different to all the rest regarding ticket prices and treating the fans fairly but it appears he's just as greedy as a lot of acts and bands and that kind of hurts after following the band for so long.

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree.

The prices suck, but it's also becoming the reality of concert going this day in age, at least in my experiences. I'm not personally going to write it off as simply as "it appears he's just as greedy......." because I don't think I know all the details of his situation or the realities of touring. I'm not going to make assumptions about things I'm not sure of.

Peace.

Yep concerts are becoming increasingly more expensive but not every body has to stick their snout in the trough just because everyone else is doing it. Plenty of big acts are touring at a reasonable price.

Of course we don't know every detail of Eddie's tour but you can make a fair comparison to other acts who are charging much less. In Eddie's case he would appear to have much less overheads than a lot of bands as it is a one man show with little or no stage design. His touring crew will be pretty small compared to what PJ would take on the road.

It's a minimalist show being charged at Stadium prices. We cal all draw our own conclusions from that.

dimitrispearljam

PJNB said:

dimitrispearljam said:

eyejacker said:

dimitrispearljam said:

eyejacker said:

I've been looking for general public sale prices, but have not found them anywhere... Can anyone point me in the right direction?

which show?

Taormina

prices is per ticket.
.4 sections..
level 1..level 2..level 3 with seat numbers..level 4 with no numbers at seats .first come first serve..
tickets prices below,probably with no fees..so more expensive at the total

Prezzi d'ingresso:
Poltronissima Platea e Tribunetta Centrale € 172,50
Poltrona Tribunetta Laterale € 115,00
Cavea Numerata € 97,75
Cavea Non Numerata € 80,50

http://www.ctbox.it/C23/2172/Content.aspx/Eventi/Concerti/Eddie_VEDDER-26_giugno_2017-Taormina_–_Teatro_Antico_–_ore_21_45-In_vendita_dal_10_marzo_2017_26_06_2017

Dimi is ctbox the correct website for the general sale or is that going to kick you to ticketone? Livenation seems to be hosting it but it kicks you out to ticketone I think.

sameis the time of sow,,in one site says 21:45 other says 20:30..i guess we will know all on friday

helplessdancer

helplessdancer said:

texasistheSTEVEN said:

In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.
Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00

so sting and ed are playing the exact same venue the price is 40 pounds/euros different. i see that as a major point that's hard to get behind ed and his promoter on.

bump for anyone who can explain this to me.

Weston1283

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

drakeheuer14

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

No concert is a cheap concert (for the bands I like at least) while being in college. You are completely right, it is all about choices. I cant stand when other students complain about being broke when they go out constantly. I went to two shows last year, i picked up extra shifts, and maybe went out one time over the course of saving and really being aware of how I could save.

Spiritual_Chaos

helplessdancer said:

helplessdancer said:

texasistheSTEVEN said:

In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.
Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00

so sting and ed are playing the exact same venue the price is 40 pounds/euros different. i see that as a major point that's hard to get behind ed and his promoter on.

bump for anyone who can explain this to me.

People are prepared to pay more for Eddie?

Spiritual_Chaos

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

At the same time, Pearl Jam has backed themselves into this corner by fighting expansive tickets in the past. It is what it is.

drakeheuer14

Also, lets say these shows sold out at a lower price.. people would be happy to find and then pay these current prices on the secondary market it seems

Weston1283

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

At the same time, Pearl Jam has backed themselves into this corner by fighting expansive tickets in the past. It is what it is.

I hope when I turn 50 that people won't hold what I did at age 30 against me

I don't think it's fair at all to hold the previous ticket wars of the band against them. Pearl Jam shows being priced at $75-80 bucks a ticket is already an incredible move by the band. Times are different, and like someone said before, a majority of the fan base in 2017 is 40 year olds with jobs and disposable income. They're not fighting to get college kids into shows anymore.

Spiritual_Chaos

Weston1283 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

At the same time, Pearl Jam has backed themselves into this corner by fighting expansive tickets in the past. It is what it is.

I hope when I turn 50 that people won't hold what I did at age 30 against me

Not sitting in congress and speaking out, helps with that

Merkin Baller

helplessdancer said:

helplessdancer said:

texasistheSTEVEN said:

In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.
Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00

so sting and ed are playing the exact same venue the price is 40 pounds/euros different. i see that as a major point that's hard to get behind ed and his promoter on.

bump for anyone who can explain this to me.

Well, Sting has a residence and records in London, correct? He considers it home, does he not? I might think playing in a city where an artists resides (even part time) may be a factor. Having all your gear & equipment there sure as hell helps. Do you think he has a local crew, or brings them from the states?

Why is the starting price for Sting tickets at his Boston show $155 USD, but down the road in CT they are starting @ $75.00?

Weston1283

drakeheuer14 said:

Also, lets say these shows sold out at a lower price.. people would be happy to find and then pay these current prices on the secondary market it seems

Then people would just complain about the band not doing a better job of saving seats for the "true fans".

I don't think the band is perfect, but often times with ticketing, it's a no-win situation for them

buck502000

Taking flippers out of the equation

texasistheSTEVEN

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

As I said earlier

"In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.

Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00"

now $100.00 may be the normal but £100.00 is not the normal. It is far from normal here, in fact it is well above pretty much every other concert in London, be that huge stadium or mid sized show.

You cannot compare the dollar to the pound as the economic situations of both countries are very much at odds.

texasistheSTEVEN

buck502000 said:

Taking flippers out of the equation

Its giving more money to flippers.

A £50 show becomes a £100/£150 ticket on secondary market. A £100 show becomes a £200/300 show on secondary market.

It's not doing anything to stop flippers.

If EV wanted to stop flippers he would do what other artists have done and you would have to show ID to gain entry to the gig with the name on the tickets.

100 Pacer

my2hands said:

mrk2 said:

London is about 3600 seated capacity. Berlin, Amsterdam, Sicily about 5000 each. Antwerpen about 7000 (not quite sure, over 8000 concert capacity but that includes standing, which is now not used), Dublin 9000 all seated.

So the smallest is 3600 and the rest is 5000-13,000+?

That kind of sucks because I think he really shines in smaller intimate venues... hopefully when he comes to the states again he stays in the smaller 2,500 seaters

Looking back at the 4 shows I attended in 2008: Centre for the Performing Arts in Vancouver is a little over 1,800 capacity and Massey Hall in Toronto is a little over 2,500 capacity. The smaller venues definitely make for a more intimate and appropriate environment for the material being performed.

The Greek Theatre in Taromina looks really enticing but there's no way I could make it work. Good luck to those trying for that venue and others on tour.

icemanap

texasistheSTEVEN said:

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

As I said earlier

"In London £100 gig tickets are very rare, I think this is the part that people are overlooking.

Big artists in big venues, big artists in small venues, mid level bands in mid levels venues, it's very very rare that £100 is the norm.
Sting is playing the same venue as EV and it's £60.00"

now $100.00 may be the normal but £100.00 is not the normal. It is far from normal here, in fact it is well above pretty much every other concert in London, be that huge stadium or mid sized show.

You cannot compare the dollar to the pound as the economic situations of both countries are very much at odds.

Agree. I've not known of an acoustic show in London to be these prices. Yes, big arena gigs with more pyro, Axl (!) and big screens are up to this price but very rarely. I think many people are looking at this with their Pearl Jam tinted glasses on. The fact of the matter is it is far higher than what the UK market pays for tickets and I simply can't justify it.

kevtic

Weston1283 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Weston1283 said:

I just don't think $103 USD or whatever the conversion is, is that much for a concert in 2017. When a band comes to town, I'm pleasantly surprised if I can get a good seat for under 100. It's just the way it is. Unless it is a really new band, a 100+ dollar ticket is pretty normal. Attending a concert is a privledge not a right.

I'm not saying anyone here does it, but it amazes me when some of my own friends will say they have no money or can't afford something, but then spend 10-15 bucks on a drink at a bar on a regular basis or pay 20 bucks for a "nice" burger and fries. It's about choices.

At the same time, Pearl Jam has backed themselves into this corner by fighting expansive tickets in the past. It is what it is.

I hope when I turn 50 that people won't hold what I did at age 30 against me

I don't think it's fair at all to hold the previous ticket wars of the band against them. Pearl Jam shows being priced at $75-80 bucks a ticket is already an incredible move by the band. Times are different, and like someone said before, a majority of the fan base in 2017 is 40 year olds with jobs and disposable income. They're not fighting to get college kids into shows anymore.

Does the majority of the fan base have disposable income? how do you come to that conclusion or are you guessing? Just because you are 40 doesn't mean you have disposable income especially not in the current climate.

And even if it was true why does that make it any more acceptable?