** THE IMPENDING IMPEACHMENT OR RESIGNATION OF DONALD J TRUMP **

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,320
    2019
    jeffbr said:
    I still think impeachment, politically speaking, isn't in the best interest of the Dems. We know he won't be convicted in the Senate. And I personally don't think it would hurt him in the 2020 election because I think the undecided voters will look at it as just more bureaucratic attempts to get rid of him (Mueller report -> Mueller testimony -> Impeachment). I know a lot of you guys are of the belief "So what if he's not convicted? He should be impeached so impeach him." Hey, have it your way. It'll certainly be an entertaining shit show. 
    I understand that the Senate would acquit him, but that is how things have historically happened. Only 2 previous presidents have been impeached by the House - Andrew Jackson & Bill Clinton. In both cases, they were acquitted by the Senate. Nixon's impeachment was still in the investigation stage when he resigned. I would be fine with whatever the outcome is (Senate acquittal as expected, resignation prior to vote, or a miraculous Senate conviction and removal). But I want all of the congresscritters on record. In the face of overwhelming evidence of misconduct those who vote against are complicit and that vote should be used against them in any future campaigns. 
    It would not only be a permanent stain on Trump's record but on every republican who votes to acquit. I agree with you. 
    but would it really? he'd manage to turn it into some badge of honour that he was once again able to thwart and defeat the angry democrats at every turn. 
    Yes. History is not kind to people like Donald Trump and his enablers. 

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,829
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    jeffbr said:
    I still think impeachment, politically speaking, isn't in the best interest of the Dems. We know he won't be convicted in the Senate. And I personally don't think it would hurt him in the 2020 election because I think the undecided voters will look at it as just more bureaucratic attempts to get rid of him (Mueller report -> Mueller testimony -> Impeachment). I know a lot of you guys are of the belief "So what if he's not convicted? He should be impeached so impeach him." Hey, have it your way. It'll certainly be an entertaining shit show. 
    I understand that the Senate would acquit him, but that is how things have historically happened. Only 2 previous presidents have been impeached by the House - Andrew Jackson & Bill Clinton. In both cases, they were acquitted by the Senate. Nixon's impeachment was still in the investigation stage when he resigned. I would be fine with whatever the outcome is (Senate acquittal as expected, resignation prior to vote, or a miraculous Senate conviction and removal). But I want all of the congresscritters on record. In the face of overwhelming evidence of misconduct those who vote against are complicit and that vote should be used against them in any future campaigns. 
    Strategically (which should be secondary, anyway) this is how I feel.  We can assume they'll vote to acquit, and in so doing, give them plausible deniability if we ever do get to the point (like with Nixon) that the majority "gets it."  What I want to see happen is I want to MAKE them vote to acquit.  If they're going to continue to back this guy, I want them to make it as official as it gets.  Even if it doesn't pay off until Donald Trump, Jr. is being impeached and they have to remember how bad their vote looks in hindsight.
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 8,196
    New impeachment tv ad. I like it and I want to see more and more and more of this 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-Y2YxQzo0&feature=youtu.be

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,320
    2019
    cutz said:
    New impeachment tv ad. I like it and I want to see more and more and more of this 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-Y2YxQzo0&feature=youtu.be

    There it is. Not a big Tom Steyer fan but I would air ads like this all over the place. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 21,554
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    jeffbr said:
    I still think impeachment, politically speaking, isn't in the best interest of the Dems. We know he won't be convicted in the Senate. And I personally don't think it would hurt him in the 2020 election because I think the undecided voters will look at it as just more bureaucratic attempts to get rid of him (Mueller report -> Mueller testimony -> Impeachment). I know a lot of you guys are of the belief "So what if he's not convicted? He should be impeached so impeach him." Hey, have it your way. It'll certainly be an entertaining shit show. 
    I understand that the Senate would acquit him, but that is how things have historically happened. Only 2 previous presidents have been impeached by the House - Andrew Jackson & Bill Clinton. In both cases, they were acquitted by the Senate. Nixon's impeachment was still in the investigation stage when he resigned. I would be fine with whatever the outcome is (Senate acquittal as expected, resignation prior to vote, or a miraculous Senate conviction and removal). But I want all of the congresscritters on record. In the face of overwhelming evidence of misconduct those who vote against are complicit and that vote should be used against them in any future campaigns. 
    Strategically (which should be secondary, anyway) this is how I feel.  We can assume they'll vote to acquit, and in so doing, give them plausible deniability if we ever do get to the point (like with Nixon) that the majority "gets it."  What I want to see happen is I want to MAKE them vote to acquit.  If they're going to continue to back this guy, I want them to make it as official as it gets.  Even if it doesn't pay off until Donald Trump, Jr. is being impeached and they have to remember how bad their vote looks in hindsight.
    Yeah I agree , screw this turd !
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    Majority of house dems now support impeachment. Say it ain’t so! Add to it the house judiciary agreeing with the justice Department to a court schedule for filings around the grand jury testimony redactions and witnesses access, and you have the beginnings of an end. Next summer in Charlotte will be hot, hot, hot!

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    If you’re so inclined or need a little insight into:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    Impeachment is in order as is a drive for a constitutional convention and amendment change. What are they going to do? Shoot us?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 21,554
    2018
    Impeachment is in order as is a drive for a constitutional convention and amendment change. What are they going to do? Shoot us?
    I’m with you all the way ..
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    Anybody here like spaghetti westerns? Tee up the Hang ‘em High theme music.

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  • RenfieldRenfield NYC NYPosts: 396
    Anybody here like spaghetti westerns? Tee up the Hang ‘em High theme music.

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    Gladly!

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    More fruit from the poisonous tree. Or is it brilliant, brilliance in all its brilliancy? Can’t wait for CYA Barr’s FISA application findings. Or is it losses?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/lewandowski-subpoena-house-judiciary-committee/index.html

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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,603
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    I was. But the numbers are probably actually higher. This just accounts for the DOJ website, where you could download the non-searchable copy. I downloaded the DOJ copy, found that it couldn't be searched, and looking elsewhere (a news/media site but can't remember which) where the PDF was searchable. So I'm sure the DOJ number is just a fraction of the total. Instant best-seller!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,877
    More fruit from the poisonous tree or is it brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy? Can’t wait for another spiked football. Hillary and Obama been indicted yet?

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