***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,126
    Any guesses as to why they’d do this?

    https://apple.news/AUHzWRbHMQmeGBrZXkVRtdA

    Because you know,

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    Suckers. Odds on them claiming executive privilege to be Putin on the ritz’s boy toy? 
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Any guesses as to why they’d do this?

    https://apple.news/AUHzWRbHMQmeGBrZXkVRtdA

    Because you know,

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    Suckers. Odds on them claiming executive privilege to be Putin on the ritz’s boy toy? 
    People have known this for years, but they're all talking now.  Why??
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    2018
    njnancy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Any guesses as to why they’d do this?

    https://apple.news/AUHzWRbHMQmeGBrZXkVRtdA

    Because you know,

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    Suckers. Odds on them claiming executive privilege to be Putin on the ritz’s boy toy? 
    People have known this for years, but they're all talking now.  Why??
    Probable cause to go after those calls
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,126
    njnancy said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Any guesses as to why they’d do this?

    https://apple.news/AUHzWRbHMQmeGBrZXkVRtdA

    Because you know,

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    Suckers. Odds on them claiming executive privilege to be Putin on the ritz’s boy toy? 
    People have known this for years, but they're all talking now.  Why??
    Enough is enough. Team Trump Treason is comprised in more than one way and can’t be trusted to keep the National security of the United States first and foremost. He only cares about himself, his ego and wealth. The fourth estate has had enough of his traitorous ass.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Good riddance, by the way.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
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    They’re gonna get burned by having such a revolving door of employees now. Ex admin officials may feel free to talk finally...
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  • ikiT
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I disagree with the "bullshit" part.  It's not bullshit.  I don't listen to bullshit.
    Bullshit...
    whore!
    TY for seeing the humor, I chuckled, lol!

    I really want to hang out with you next round of shows that come up.  I think we'd both be laughing the whole time.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Big fucking oops by the administration of brilliant brilliance of brilliancy. Remember how when they were transitioning and they ignored the Obama folks because they had it all figured out? Oops, suckers?

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  • The Juggler
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    edited September 2019
    2019
    Wouldnt be suprised if we get some kind of update into one of these Barr investigations soon. The conveniently timed distraction is probably right around the corner...
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited October 2019
    2018
    ahh, the investigation of the investigators...



    Judge Jeannie had both those toothless wonders on last night.   JV team members Jordan and Meadows.  Our boy on the left? Former wrasslin coach who made some questionable decisions and apparently doesn't own a jacket.  It's night and you're a member of congress. Homie on the right?  Old school racist, and knows a black woman that Don Trump appointed to a job she wasn't qualified to do. 

    The mainstream R's (they're really RTs...get it?) don't appear to be budging just yet.
    Don and Linsdey did play golf yesterday, and they probably worked out an OBVIOUS strategy.  Those two on Don's REAL favorite show, talkin about the Dem Ukraine WH.  

    WH is code for White House...Like the Russia WH.  It's also the first two letters of Don's favorite 5 letter word.

    blah blah blah
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited September 2019
    2018
    Actually RUDY was on first, and Laura Trump was on after.   They stacked the two minority members of the House up. 

    So predictable.  SAD.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    2019
    Imagine what these numbers will look like once more facts come out


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  • Lerxst1992
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    "THE FIELD"
    The Juggler said:
    Imagine what these numbers will look like once more facts come out




    What's scary is the 45% 

    I dont think there is swaying any of those people.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    The Juggler said:
    Wouldnt be suprised if we get some kind of update into one of these Barr investigations soon. The conveniently timed distraction is probably right around the corner...
    or the effing emails again.  as John Oliver said...BASIC
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited September 2019
    2018

    cincybearcat said:
    Smellyman said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Cracks they are appearing. Need the testimony of the whistle blower to seal the deal.

    https://apple.news/AX-PD8KPpRAO6QhMAmYNVkg
    And this is before the complaint was released. 

    I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too. 


    Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say. 
    It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things.  Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment.  Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...

    The news shows are really getting tiresome.  Does anybody read a source that isn't biased?  Do they exist?
    Yes they exist.  Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.

    Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair.  Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support.  MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts.  They always present both sides of the story.
    Maddow?  Really?

    Shepard Smith I happen to love.  He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
    Yes, really.  She is liberal and she let's you know it.  But she is always the first to let you know when she is using unconfirmed information.  She consistently uses "if this is true" to preface information presented.


    her dramatics are what turn me off. 
    I don't like her either.  Repeating the same stuff over and over making a 4 minute segment into 15.

    but I hate the false equivalency.
    I hate the overuse of the term false equivalency.
    Maybe because you present them fairly often and people point it out? I'm not trying to be snarky... It's just what I see happening sometimes and it might explain your feelings about the term. "Overuse" is only really applicable if the term isn't being applied legitimately.... In this case it was being used legitimately, and it is most cases on this board.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    2018
    PJ_Soul said:

    cincybearcat said:
    Smellyman said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Cracks they are appearing. Need the testimony of the whistle blower to seal the deal.

    https://apple.news/AX-PD8KPpRAO6QhMAmYNVkg
    And this is before the complaint was released. 

    I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too. 


    Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say. 
    It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things.  Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment.  Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...

    The news shows are really getting tiresome.  Does anybody read a source that isn't biased?  Do they exist?
    Yes they exist.  Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.

    Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair.  Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support.  MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts.  They always present both sides of the story.
    Maddow?  Really?

    Shepard Smith I happen to love.  He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
    Yes, really.  She is liberal and she let's you know it.  But she is always the first to let you know when she is using unconfirmed information.  She consistently uses "if this is true" to preface information presented.


    her dramatics are what turn me off. 
    I don't like her either.  Repeating the same stuff over and over making a 4 minute segment into 15.

    but I hate the false equivalency.
    I hate the overuse of the term false equivalency.
    Maybe because you present them fairly often and people point it out? I'm not trying to be snarky... It's just what I see happening sometimes and it might explain your feelings about the term. "Overuse" is only really applicable if the term isn't being applied legitimately.... In this case it was being used legitimately, and it is most cases on this board.
    No, just think it is way overused and used inappropriately often. Many times people are not trying to actually compare 2 things. But it’s become the crutch used to avoid talking about some other things that people do not want to discuss or acknowledge.

    But I see why we would disagree on here because you use it incorrectly fairly often.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited September 2019
    2018
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    cincybearcat said:
    Smellyman said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Cracks they are appearing. Need the testimony of the whistle blower to seal the deal.

    https://apple.news/AX-PD8KPpRAO6QhMAmYNVkg
    And this is before the complaint was released. 

    I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too. 


    Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say. 
    It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things.  Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment.  Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...

    The news shows are really getting tiresome.  Does anybody read a source that isn't biased?  Do they exist?
    Yes they exist.  Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.

    Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair.  Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support.  MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts.  They always present both sides of the story.
    Maddow?  Really?

    Shepard Smith I happen to love.  He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
    Yes, really.  She is liberal and she let's you know it.  But she is always the first to let you know when she is using unconfirmed information.  She consistently uses "if this is true" to preface information presented.


    her dramatics are what turn me off. 
    I don't like her either.  Repeating the same stuff over and over making a 4 minute segment into 15.

    but I hate the false equivalency.
    I hate the overuse of the term false equivalency.
    Maybe because you present them fairly often and people point it out? I'm not trying to be snarky... It's just what I see happening sometimes and it might explain your feelings about the term. "Overuse" is only really applicable if the term isn't being applied legitimately.... In this case it was being used legitimately, and it is most cases on this board.
    No, just think it is way overused and used inappropriately often. Many times people are not trying to actually compare 2 things. But it’s become the crutch used to avoid talking about some other things that people do not want to discuss or acknowledge.

    But I see why we would disagree on here because you use it incorrectly fairly often.

    I never misuse it, but I know you think I do. ;)
    In any case, the way it was used right here was an appropriate use of the term, so I just didn't understand why you decided to complain about the term when you did.
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  • The Juggler
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    2019
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Imagine what these numbers will look like once more facts come out




    What's scary is the 45% 

    I dont think there is swaying any of those people.
    Well this is a whole hell of a lot more support than during the Russia investigation. I think 10-15% of those 45% can be persuaded....
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    I wonder if those numbers would be different if there wasn't a Mueller investigation and all the hysteria surrounding it. Like, if you just throw out all the Russia stuff, and the first real impeachable offense was him pressuring the Ukrainian president, would there be more people in favor of impeachment? I just feel that they actually have him this time, but there might be people out there that think it's just a baseless attempt to take Trump down because they feel that way about Mueller's investigation. 
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