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    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone see the Middle East "peace" plan?  What a joke and an insult.  It's nothing more than a right wing political ploy by Bibi. 
    Anyone see two nation's leaders stand side by side while both are being accused of bribery? When has that happened before? Helsinki?
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Analysis from ex-Senator. Now in a meeting, post defense, McConnell whipping Senators to vote against witnesses and I'm sure other things. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Kat said:
    Analysis from ex-Senator. Now in a meeting, post defense, McConnell whipping Senators to vote against witnesses and I'm sure other things. 
    He's whipping hard for sure.  Senators have a little more wiggle than HOR members.  Let's see if anyone has political courage. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone see the Middle East "peace" plan?  What a joke and an insult.  It's nothing more than a right wing political ploy by Bibi. 
    Anyone see two nation's leaders stand side by side while both are being accused of bribery? When has that happened before? Helsinki?
    And now Bibi has called a vote for annexation.  And that's what we're talking about here.  Annexation and Apartheid 2.0.  We're about to have a major geopolitical storm if Israel tries to forcibly annex the West Bank based on this ridiculous document.  
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    Analysis from ex-Senator. Now in a meeting, post defense, McConnell whipping Senators to vote against witnesses and I'm sure other things. 
    He's whipping hard for sure.  Senators have a little more wiggle than HOR members.  Let's see if anyone has political courage. 
    And more analysis reveals that the GOP Senators don't need to make a "deal" with any Dems to have witnesses. They have the majority and can call anyone they want, including Bidens, Schiff, etc. It's fake if they act like no deal can be made because the Dems won't agree...the Dems are not needed at all. 

    Falling down,...not staying down
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,941
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone see the Middle East "peace" plan?  What a joke and an insult.  It's nothing more than a right wing political ploy by Bibi. 
    Anyone see two nation's leaders stand side by side while both are being accused of bribery? When has that happened before? Helsinki?
    And now Bibi has called a vote for annexation.  And that's what we're talking about here.  Annexation and Apartheid 2.0.  We're about to have a major geopolitical storm if Israel tries to forcibly annex the West Bank based on this ridiculous document.  
    The sad thing is, he'll have Trump's support because the more outrageous the distraction, the more likely Trump is to supporting it.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Kat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    Analysis from ex-Senator. Now in a meeting, post defense, McConnell whipping Senators to vote against witnesses and I'm sure other things. 
    He's whipping hard for sure.  Senators have a little more wiggle than HOR members.  Let's see if anyone has political courage. 
    And more analysis reveals that the GOP Senators don't need to make a "deal" with any Dems to have witnesses. They have the majority and can call anyone they want, including Bidens, Schiff, etc. It's fake if they act like no deal can be made because the Dems won't agree...the Dems are not needed at all. 

    True... but I like to think there are four senators with some level of integrity on the topic.  
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    Angus King went out on a limb and stated that there were 6-10 repub senators who would vote to hear witnesses.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    edited January 2020
    Andrew Weissman, Former Federal Prosecutor, Mueller Investigation, believes GOP Senators bluffing.
    I want to see soul-eater be a witness. Bill Clinton had to testify.


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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
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    dignin said:
    McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
    McConnell always gets what he wants.  
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    dignin said:
    McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
    Don’t matter. They could have Team Trump Treason on film flogging Zelenskiy with Lindsey “Flimsy Flipflop Faloozy” Graham’s parasol while sipping peach tea and demanding an investigation of the Biden’s while having Ivanka Darlink paid millions and those soulless repubs will claim it doesn’t rise to an impeachable offense and every POTUS does it. Plus, lots of people were listening to the perfect call so what more can witnesses tell us?
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    Moscow Mitchy Baby held his caucus in the Strom Thurmond Room this afternoon. You can’t make this shit up.
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    What was that about corruption, again? Nothing like using tax payer dollars to boost your re-election chances, eh, Moscow Mitchy Baby?

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



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    OnWis97 said:
    dignin said:
    McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
    McConnell always gets what he wants.  

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
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    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;You elitists with your geography and your maps and your spelling...sipping your latte...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/qy1FVIY7fs">pic.twitter.com/qy1FVIY7fs</a></p>&mdash; Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) <a href="">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    Don Lemon sucks
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    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



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    Excuse me Amee but I like my SOS to be the smartest in the room. No, sorry, I’d like my POTUS to be the smartest in the room, maybe Even saluting with a latte in hand.
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    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



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    Don Lemon sucks
    More than who?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    OnWis97 said:
    dignin said:
    McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
    McConnell always gets what he wants.  

    Nice.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,324
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    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



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    Don Lemon sucks
    More than who?
    I consider him to be one of the worst cable news hosts. 
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    this doesn't help the discourse, but it isn't wrong either.



    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;You elitists with your geography and your maps and your spelling...sipping your latte...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/qy1FVIY7fs">pic.twitter.com/qy1FVIY7fs</a></p>&mdash; Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) <a href="">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    Don Lemon sucks
    More than who?
    I consider him to be one of the worst cable news hosts. 
    Worse than Coumo with his “let’s get after it?”
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    Lemon and Cuomo are kind of aggravating.  I don't know what it is, but they don't know how to subtly drop their opinion.  It's over the top.  I like Cooper and Wolf, but the rest of the CNN cast is not very talented.  
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    Now, in heaven's name, would you do something like this, if it was a "perfect" call?

    Washington (CNN)The White House has issued a formal threat to former national security adviser John Bolton to keep him from publishing his book, "The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir," sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.

    The White House had no comment. Neither Bolton nor a spokesman for the publisher, Simon & Schuster, responded to a request for comment.
    The letter comes in the midst of President Donald Trump attacking Bolton on Twitter, and Bolton's lawyer accusing the White House of corrupting the vetting process for Bolton's book by sharing the contents of the book with those outside the National Security Council's Records Management Division.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/politics/donald-trump-john-bolton-white-house-book/index.html

    Because we all know:

    “There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    “Essentially no obstruction.”

    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    “No quid pro quo.”

     

    Follow the damn money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.


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    Momentum is about to shift.
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    Witnesses and Documents
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lemon and Cuomo are kind of aggravating.  I don't know what it is, but they don't know how to subtly drop their opinion.  It's over the top.  I like Cooper and Wolf, but the rest of the CNN cast is not very talented.  
    Cuomo is okay in my book. He seems at least a little more impartial. Sure, he will give his opinion, but he also gives time for both sides to talk. Always has opposing viewpoints on his show.

    Lemon is just a partisan clown. His show is a joke. I've felt like that since before Trump. And I like Rick Wilson, but Lemon could not have acted less professionally there. He should've just cut Wilson off and moved on. Now, he's a campaign ad for Trump. 
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Impeachment: Jay Sekulow bumbles the John Bolton witness question

    "In just two ad libbed sentences, Jay Sekulow managed to blow up the very basis of President Trump’s no-witness strategy, that senators have heard enough and that no further evidence is necessary. Worse, he made the case that Trump himself has to be brought in as a witness because none of the various statements he has made to the press or on Twitter are admissible either. (By contrast, all the testimony taken under oath by the House is.)"

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/29/impeachment-trump-jay-sekulow-john-bolton-witness-book-column/4608371002/
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