Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
I think Pence would have terrible social policies, but at least he (probably) wouldn't ruin global relations to the point of nearly causing a global conflict.
This is the main thing that is keeping me from totally abandoning the "bash Trump" train. But still, and I feel like a broken record here, has it proven to be enough of a problem that we need to focus every ounce of our energy on it?
It seems a lot of people think so, anyway (myself included). Too bad we don't have a time machine to see if it's worth it... better safe than sorry? I personally do think that the direction this is all taking is quite sinister. I gather than many kind of reject that just because it seems so nuts and unamerican .... but so are Trump and Bannon. I agree that Pence is just a more reasonable person. Terrible, archaic beliefs in some regards, but outside of the unfortunate Bible thumping problem and what that entails, and his pathetic willingness to abandon his basic moral principles in order to be VP (which many politicians would do), I haven't seen any reason to assume he'd be a complete embarrassment to the nation, nor that he's actually insane and unable to control his emotions. It is shitty that everyone's standards have been forced to the bottom of the cess pool, but it is what it is.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
There are voices of reason within the Democratic Party, typically those elected officials from swing districts. Then there are the attack dogs from those safe hyper partisan districts like Maxine Waters and Elijah Cummings. The Republican Party was hijacked by the tea partiers and Americans are waking up to how crazy they are. It happens every generation or so. Pence is too far right to win a nationwide contest. What do you mean by better ourselves?
I think Pence would have terrible social policies, but at least he (probably) wouldn't ruin global relations to the point of nearly causing a global conflict.
This is the main thing that is keeping me from totally abandoning the "bash Trump" train. But still, and I feel like a broken record here, has it proven to be enough of a problem that we need to focus every ounce of our energy on it?
hard to say. I think north korea flexing its genitals is of major concern, and it would be nice to have someone at the head table who isn't a complete jackass.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
Maybe I'm not too clear on what you mean actually. Who is spending 100% of their lives fighting for impeachment? And if they are doing this, haven't they only been doing it for a few days, since the national security story got even bigger? I am not sure who "we" is I guess? Are you just bothered by the fact that this story is so huge?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
There are voices of reason within the Democratic Party, typically those elected officials from swing districts. Then there are the attack dogs from those safe hyper partisan districts like Maxine Waters and Elijah Cummings. The Republican Party was hijacked by the tea partiers and Americans are waking up to how crazy they are. It happens every generation or so. Pence is too far right to win a nationwide contest. What do you mean by better ourselves?
To not completely ignore the fact that we spectacularly fucked up the 2016 election, the establishment pushed for Hilary and the majority of liberal voters pushed for Hilary. I firmly believe that Bernie would have won the general election. Therefore it's my opinion that we should at least spend some time trying to push the establishment into endorsing candidates like Bernie instead of candidates like Hilary, or at least to find some middle ground between the two. Right now no one wants to talk about what we did wrong, therefore I have no reason to believe history won't repeat itself and we won't nominate an equally terrible candidate. Why wouldn't we? We've done nothing, and don't appear to have the will to do anything, to change things.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
Maybe I'm not too clear on what you mean actually. Who is spending 100% of their lives fighting for impeachment? And if they are doing this, haven't they only been doing it for a few days, since the national security story got even bigger? I am not sure who "we" is I guess? Are you just bothered by the fact that this story is so huge?
When I say "we" I mean the liberal voting populous. And I don't mean 100% of their lives but 100% percent of the energy that they use on politics and sharing their beliefs with others that might be typically undecided voters.
The difference in last years election was people that voted for Obama, but didn't have the passion to get off their asses to go vote for Hilary. I don't think it's unfair for me to ask that we devote SOME time into assuring that doesn't happen again.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
In our defense, the radical conservatives did the same thing for the past 8 years.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
In our defense, the radical conservatives did the same thing for the past 8 years.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
In our defense, the radical conservatives did the same thing for the past 8 years.
yup. equally as annoying.
So i take it you believe the country is headed in the right direction headed by a total stable human ? i mean if he was actually getting legislation passed and doing some good things for the country we could all see it but as it stands now the 1st 100 days have been filled by hi's incompetence ...
The difference being that the rights obsession with Obama had no basis in reality. Time and time again they refused to work with Obama and refused to offer an alternative that may have resulted in compromise and shit getting done. The lefts obsession with Trump is based in a harsh reality of realizing and knowing that his policies are harmful to America and by extension, the world. And that's Bannon and his ilk. We went from one of the most transparent and scandal free administrations to one of the most secretive and scandal plagued, comparing 8 years to the first 117 days. You're not being honest if you claim to be comparing apples to apples. And I'm not convinced a socialist would have beaten Trump. Don't negate or minimize the impact Russian collusion had on our electoral process. Which clearly Trump has done, in itself scary.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
In our defense, the radical conservatives did the same thing for the past 8 years.
yup. equally as annoying.
So i take it you believe the country is headed in the right direction headed by a total stable human ? i mean if he was actually getting legislation passed and doing some good things for the country we could all see it but as it stands now the 1st 100 days have been filled by hi's incompetence ...
i expressed my opinion in 1 post over 4 months ago. i said he wouldnt last through Year 1. it was really simple. i dont have to obsess every day and chase my tail. i just have the opinion that people who think they know everything dont know shit about shit.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
In our defense, the radical conservatives did the same thing for the past 8 years.
yup. equally as annoying.
So i take it you believe the country is headed in the right direction headed by a total stable human ? i mean if he was actually getting legislation passed and doing some good things for the country we could all see it but as it stands now the 1st 100 days have been filled by hi's incompetence ...
i expressed my opinion in 1 post over 4 months ago. i said he wouldnt last through Year 1. it was really simple. i dont have to obsess every day and chase my tail. i just have the opinion that people who think they know everything dont know shit about shit.
Well now your just being all level headed and what not lol , i hear you though ...
The difference being that the rights obsession with Obama had no basis in reality. Time and time again they refused to work with Obama and refused to offer an alternative that may have resulted in compromise and shit getting done. The lefts obsession with Trump is based in a harsh reality of realizing and knowing that his policies are harmful to America and by extension, the world. And that's Bannon and his ilk. We went from one of the most transparent and scandal free administrations to one of the most secretive and scandal plagued, comparing 8 years to the first 117 days. You're not being honest if you claim to be comparing apples to apples. And I'm not convinced a socialist would have beaten Trump. Don't negate or minimize the impact Russian collusion had on our electoral process. Which clearly Trump has done, in itself scary.
Yup. The false equivalence of "left=right" does not apply here.
If this were Kasich in office and people were ranting and raving, acting like lunatics, then there is equivalency.
The difference being that the rights obsession with Obama had no basis in reality. Time and time again they refused to work with Obama and refused to offer an alternative that may have resulted in compromise and shit getting done. The lefts obsession with Trump is based in a harsh reality of realizing and knowing that his policies are harmful to America and by extension, the world. And that's Bannon and his ilk. We went from one of the most transparent and scandal free administrations to one of the most secretive and scandal plagued, comparing 8 years to the first 117 days. You're not being honest if you claim to be comparing apples to apples. And I'm not convinced a socialist would have beaten Trump. Don't negate or minimize the impact Russian collusion had on our electoral process. Which clearly Trump has done, in itself scary.
Yup. The false equivalence of "left=right" does not apply here.
If this were Kasich in office and people were ranting and raving, acting like lunatics, then there is equivalency.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
give it time. it's only been a little over 3 months. and enough has happened in this idiot's reign as 4 years. if keeping democrats occupied with outrage, faux or otherwise, so they don't get their shit together and organize properly for 2020, well then he's on the right track.
President Trump will serve his full term. This Comey stuff is just fluff to cover over any democratic campaign momentum for the next election which should be starting soon since Americans have a ridiculously long election.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
right on time, another "im so smart" post.
What? HFD is responsible for some of the most intelligent posts on here, but he would be the last person to ever say so.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
right on time, another "im so smart" post.
What? HFD is responsible for some of the most intelligent posts on here, but he would be the last person to ever say so.
I would have to respectfully disagree with that. But I appreciate the sentiment just the same.
Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
it's not obsession. it's people talking about current events. it borders on fascinating, really. which, in the past 6 months, almost always surrounds something about Trump. just the way he wants it.
this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
right on time, another "im so smart" post.
What? HFD is responsible for some of the most intelligent posts on here, but he would be the last person to ever say so.
I would have to respectfully disagree with that. But I appreciate the sentiment just the same.
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Nixon would have been impeached but resigned. The Republic survived. Is it worth it to pursue impeachment? Absolutely. Our founding fathers set things up for a reason. The Dems will recover. Pence won't get elected in 2020. At the least, the pendulum swings back toward the center. And with Pence, you can actually have a debate on the merits of the policy and at the least have a democratic process, letting the chips fall where they may. Trump doesn't understand the democratic process. Only authoritarian fiat.
......yet here we are.
I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
i agree. the obsession with donald trump around here is weird. you have a bunch of radical liberals, and the only thing they discuss day in and day out is The Donald. and most aren't Americans. Thats the other weird part.
Why do you assume everyone who despises Trump is a radical liberal?
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I'm not saying abandon the impeachment, I'm asking that we split our time between that and trying to better ourselves. Maybe 50/50? Hell I'd settle for 75/25 at this point becuase right now it's 100/0. Could we just try out 75/25, and if Trump starts becoming a dictator then we could go back to 100/0? Is that really asking so much?
I agree that Pence is just a more reasonable person. Terrible, archaic beliefs in some regards, but outside of the unfortunate Bible thumping problem and what that entails, and his pathetic willingness to abandon his basic moral principles in order to be VP (which many politicians would do), I haven't seen any reason to assume he'd be a complete embarrassment to the nation, nor that he's actually insane and unable to control his emotions. It is shitty that everyone's standards have been forced to the bottom of the cess pool, but it is what it is.
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The difference in last years election was people that voted for Obama, but didn't have the passion to get off their asses to go vote for Hilary. I don't think it's unfair for me to ask that we devote SOME time into assuring that doesn't happen again.
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If this were Kasich in office and people were ranting and raving, acting like lunatics, then there is equivalency.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/17/investing/stocks-trump-comey/index.html?adkey=bn
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this is a left-leaning band's website. anyone with half a brain shouldn't be surprised by constant discussion of an out-of-his-mind republican president. the activity on ted nugents or kid rock's forum would have been equally as, if not exponentially more, active when obama got elected. if those people know how to use a computer beyond looking for the "any" key. it's common sense.
and the majority in this thread are americans. the canadians you speak of are the trump supporters. that part IS weird.
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but it's still VERY early.
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common sense does not equal "I'm so smart".
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Why do you assume everyone who despises Trump is a radical liberal?
we will find a way, we will find our place
Yawn.
We want to know when the end is.