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Don't knock your eloquence, Hugh - I learn tons from you!HughFreakingDillon said:
I have made this same statement, albeit less eloquently (as usual, Benjs), in the past. I don't get "patriotism" or "national pride", and people release the hounds on me for saying I have zero of each. i had zero to do with the creation of this country, so what the fuck am I to be proud about? it's the same as buying a house vs building a house. Am I happy I live there? Yes, but I bought it, I didn't build it, so there's nothing for me to be proud of.benjs said:
Firstly, I was making a tongue-in-cheek joke based off of that typo.
To answer your question, though, I'm not proud nor shameful. As I said above, I reserve pride and shame for realities which I've impacted. I am not an owner or meaningful participant in making Canada into what it is at this point in my life, so I'm indifferent from that perspective about being Canadian. I do feel incredibly lucky to be born into a middle-class Canadian household, though.
I am extremely grateful to live in canada, but I'm not proud of it. I don't sing the national anthem for a reason.
And as for buying a house - you should still be proud, because you worked to earn your house
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yes, I am proud to own a house. but I'm not proud of it in and of itself. I'm not proud in its structure, or architecture, etc. you know what I mean.benjs said:
Don't knock your eloquence, Hugh - I learn tons from you!HughFreakingDillon said:
I have made this same statement, albeit less eloquently (as usual, Benjs), in the past. I don't get "patriotism" or "national pride", and people release the hounds on me for saying I have zero of each. i had zero to do with the creation of this country, so what the fuck am I to be proud about? it's the same as buying a house vs building a house. Am I happy I live there? Yes, but I bought it, I didn't build it, so there's nothing for me to be proud of.benjs said:
Firstly, I was making a tongue-in-cheek joke based off of that typo.
To answer your question, though, I'm not proud nor shameful. As I said above, I reserve pride and shame for realities which I've impacted. I am not an owner or meaningful participant in making Canada into what it is at this point in my life, so I'm indifferent from that perspective about being Canadian. I do feel incredibly lucky to be born into a middle-class Canadian household, though.
I am extremely grateful to live in canada, but I'm not proud of it. I don't sing the national anthem for a reason.
And as for buying a house - you should still be proud, because you worked to earn your houseHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Gotcha. That makes sense.HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, I am proud to own a house. but I'm not proud of it in and of itself. I'm not proud in its structure, or architecture, etc. you know what I mean.benjs said:
Don't knock your eloquence, Hugh - I learn tons from you!HughFreakingDillon said:
I have made this same statement, albeit less eloquently (as usual, Benjs), in the past. I don't get "patriotism" or "national pride", and people release the hounds on me for saying I have zero of each. i had zero to do with the creation of this country, so what the fuck am I to be proud about? it's the same as buying a house vs building a house. Am I happy I live there? Yes, but I bought it, I didn't build it, so there's nothing for me to be proud of.benjs said:
Firstly, I was making a tongue-in-cheek joke based off of that typo.
To answer your question, though, I'm not proud nor shameful. As I said above, I reserve pride and shame for realities which I've impacted. I am not an owner or meaningful participant in making Canada into what it is at this point in my life, so I'm indifferent from that perspective about being Canadian. I do feel incredibly lucky to be born into a middle-class Canadian household, though.
I am extremely grateful to live in canada, but I'm not proud of it. I don't sing the national anthem for a reason.
And as for buying a house - you should still be proud, because you worked to earn your house'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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No you went and ruined home ownership...man you are a downer!HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, I am proud to own a house. but I'm not proud of it in and of itself. I'm not proud in its structure, or architecture, etc. you know what I mean.benjs said:
Don't knock your eloquence, Hugh - I learn tons from you!HughFreakingDillon said:
I have made this same statement, albeit less eloquently (as usual, Benjs), in the past. I don't get "patriotism" or "national pride", and people release the hounds on me for saying I have zero of each. i had zero to do with the creation of this country, so what the fuck am I to be proud about? it's the same as buying a house vs building a house. Am I happy I live there? Yes, but I bought it, I didn't build it, so there's nothing for me to be proud of.benjs said:
Firstly, I was making a tongue-in-cheek joke based off of that typo.
To answer your question, though, I'm not proud nor shameful. As I said above, I reserve pride and shame for realities which I've impacted. I am not an owner or meaningful participant in making Canada into what it is at this point in my life, so I'm indifferent from that perspective about being Canadian. I do feel incredibly lucky to be born into a middle-class Canadian household, though.
I am extremely grateful to live in canada, but I'm not proud of it. I don't sing the national anthem for a reason.
And as for buying a house - you should still be proud, because you worked to earn your househippiemom = goodness0 -
2018You know Hugh, by your standards, no one should be proud of their heritage......and no more Gay Pride parades!hippiemom = goodness0
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heritage/being proud of who you are and patriotism to a country are vastly different things. most people, I would argue, don't even know why they are "proud to be an american", besides the very statement itself.cincybearcat said:You know Hugh, by your standards, no one should be proud of their heritage......and no more Gay Pride parades!
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Honestly I see a lot of similarities.... what exactly are you proud of when you are proud of your heritage?HughFreakingDillon said:
heritage/being proud of who you are and patriotism to a country are vastly different things. most people, I would argue, don't even know why they are "proud to be an american", besides the very statement itself.cincybearcat said:You know Hugh, by your standards, no one should be proud of their heritage......and no more Gay Pride parades!
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you'd have to ask someone who gives a shit about their heritage. I do not. I am a white male mutt; some irish, some scottish, not sure what else. welsh maybe. don't give a shit. I am Paul who loves pearl jam, the headstones, the tragically hip, the watchmen, my wife, kids, and family and plays bass. that's it. my aunt got all into our ancestry and stuff. doesn't interest me in the least.cincybearcat said:
Honestly I see a lot of similarities.... what exactly are you proud of when you are proud of your heritage?HughFreakingDillon said:
heritage/being proud of who you are and patriotism to a country are vastly different things. most people, I would argue, don't even know why they are "proud to be an american", besides the very statement itself.cincybearcat said:You know Hugh, by your standards, no one should be proud of their heritage......and no more Gay Pride parades!
however, I think being proud of some customs and cultural aspects of your lineal history are fine. but I find most people who are patriotic aren't proud of anything like that; they are proud of where they are born geographically and how strong they think their country is militarily and being the so-called "good guys". being proud of government intervention in global affairs puzzles me. people in canada are proud of "being canadian", which means being polite, or something. but we aren't all polite, so that's not even close to accurate. I know a lot of dicks in canada.
and almost all of us white people in canada and the US don't have one specific culture we are from: we are all a mish-mash of european DNA.
anyway, I really wasn't attempting to derail this thread. my apologies.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
I've met one Canadian who was a dick. It was after the Missoula show.0
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I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.
https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s
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I can't listen to that for 20 minutes. Is there a transcript? Perhaps from the teleprompter?RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s0 -
Sorry.Go Beavers said:I've met one Canadian who was a dick. It was after the Missoula show.
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Sorry.Go Beavers said:I've met one Canadian who was a dick. It was after the Missoula show.
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i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3sHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
With access to nukes.HughFreakingDillon said:
i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Ok I thought it was worth a try. This...Halifax2TheMax said:
With access to nukes.HughFreakingDillon said:
i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3shttps://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s
President Trump is not running around with his ass onfire with a horrible case of hemroyds and the only cure in his mind is to Nuke a few dozen places around the globe to find releaf. That's not it people.
Well I can say this. He hasn't lost any support in this neck of the woods. And by the way President Obama reminded us many many times in 08 & 12 that he Won the god damn election! And that
"ELECTIONS HAVE CONSIQUENSES." I admit hearing that from anyone gets really fucking old really fast, I don't care who they are. Hey I'm tired I'm going to drink now. Cheers...0 -
Care to remind us how many times Obama reminded us he won? Care to remind us how many lies Obama told us, after he got elected?RYME said:
Ok I thought it was worth a try. This...Halifax2TheMax said:
With access to nukes.HughFreakingDillon said:
i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3shttps://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s
President Trump is not running around with his ass onfire with a horrible case of hemroyds and the only cure in his mind is to Nuke a few dozen places around the globe to find releaf. That's not it people.
Well I can say this. He hasn't lost any support in this neck of the woods. And by the way President Obama reminded us many many times in 08 & 12 that he Won the god damn election! And that
"ELECTIONS HAVE CONSIQUENSES." I admit hearing that from anyone gets really fucking old really fast, I don't care who they are. Hey I'm tired I'm going to drink now. Cheers...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well in this forum I'm just trying to point out some of Trump's positives. I don't have the energy to get into Obama's legacy.Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to remind us how many times Obama reminded us he won? Care to remind us how many lies Obama told us, after he got elected?RYME said:
Ok I thought it was worth a try. This...Halifax2TheMax said:
With access to nukes.HughFreakingDillon said:
i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3shttps://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s
President Trump is not running around with his ass onfire with a horrible case of hemroyds and the only cure in his mind is to Nuke a few dozen places around the globe to find releaf. That's not it people.
Well I can say this. He hasn't lost any support in this neck of the woods. And by the way President Obama reminded us many many times in 08 & 12 that he Won the god damn election! And that
"ELECTIONS HAVE CONSIQUENSES." I admit hearing that from anyone gets really fucking old really fast, I don't care who they are. Hey I'm tired I'm going to drink now. Cheers...
But if Trump is doing everything wrong, what should be done about
Serria? North Korea? ISIS? I don't get why so many people think that he can't wait to drop nukes all over the place or even one.
What is the correct approach for the United States? Draw another line in the sand? Shoot them with daisies? I don't know.
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But you gladly reminded us that Obama repeatedly reminded us that he won the election. Did he or are you just making stuff up? Or is it too much effort to remind us of Obama's legacy? What are Trump's positives because I can't think of one. Remind me, please?RYME said:
Well in this forum I'm just trying to point out some of Trump's positives. I don't have the energy to get into Obama's legacy.Halifax2TheMax said:
Care to remind us how many times Obama reminded us he won? Care to remind us how many lies Obama told us, after he got elected?RYME said:
Ok I thought it was worth a try. This...Halifax2TheMax said:
With access to nukes.HughFreakingDillon said:
i'll be honest. i got 30 seconds in. after he mentioned, AGAIN, FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME, how he 'won the presidency'. jesus murphy. he is the most insecure leader on the planet.RYME said:I ask people who dispise President Trump to watch this speech. Give it a fair and full listen.
Speech was Tuesday 4-18-17 @ SnapOn in Kenosha WI.
After you listen I'd be interested in reading some of the comments.https://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3shttps://youtu.be/EVsj_uN1t3s
President Trump is not running around with his ass onfire with a horrible case of hemroyds and the only cure in his mind is to Nuke a few dozen places around the globe to find releaf. That's not it people.
Well I can say this. He hasn't lost any support in this neck of the woods. And by the way President Obama reminded us many many times in 08 & 12 that he Won the god damn election! And that
"ELECTIONS HAVE CONSIQUENSES." I admit hearing that from anyone gets really fucking old really fast, I don't care who they are. Hey I'm tired I'm going to drink now. Cheers...
But if Trump is doing everything wrong, what should be done about
Serria? North Korea? ISIS? I don't get why so many people think that he can't wait to drop nukes all over the place or even one.
What is the correct approach for the United States? Draw another line in the sand? Shoot them with daisies? I don't know.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This guy is a narcissist with an inferiority complex. He's constantly divisive and has no plans of finding common ground. The evidence is there to impeach and it will come to light. Let's just hope that there's some good left in D.C. and it won't be silenced.
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