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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^

    What do you mean when you ask who needs WikiLeaks?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    What do you mean when you ask who needs WikiLeaks?
    What is meant is that wikileaks isn't necessary if the POTUS is going to give away the government's most valuable secrets freely.
    To show off.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2017
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    What do you mean when you ask who needs WikiLeaks?
    What is meant is that wikileaks isn't necessary if the POTUS is going to give away the government's most valuable secrets freely.
    To show off.

    How is one to know it infers that?

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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited May 2017
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    What do you mean when you ask who needs WikiLeaks?
    What is meant is that wikileaks isn't necessary if the POTUS is going to give away the government's most valuable secrets freely.
    To show off.

    How is one to know it infers that?

    It implies that, you would be the party which would need to infer it based upon the implication.
    It may be that "who needs" as a shorthand for "who needs ____, when ______" is not a common phrasing in Canada.  
    It may be that you didn't read about Trump supposedly giving away top secret info to a literal Russian spy to show off.
    Who knows, the implication was relatively solid in context though.


    Because of the implication.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    What do you mean when you ask who needs WikiLeaks?
    What is meant is that wikileaks isn't necessary if the POTUS is going to give away the government's most valuable secrets freely.
    To show off.

    How is one to know it infers that?

    It implies that, you would be the party which would need to infer it based upon the implication.
    It may be that "who needs" as a shorthand for "who needs ____, when ______" is not a common phrasing in Canada.  
    It may be that you didn't read about Trump supposedly giving away top secret info to a literal Russian spy to show off.
    Who knows, the implication was relatively solid in context though.


    Because of the implication.
    Where does anywhere say that?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The Washington Post.
    I do believe it's been linked here.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:
    The Washington Post.
    I do believe it's been linked here.

    It says Top Secret?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    rgambs said:
    The Washington Post.
    I do believe it's been linked here.

    It says Top Secret?
    It does.  Code-word level information.  
    Here's a quick Wikipedia explanation on what that means.
    "Top Secret is the highest level of classification. However some information is compartmentalized by adding a code word so that only those who have been cleared for each code word can see it. This information is also known as "Sensitive Compartmented Information" (SCI). A document marked SECRET (CODE WORD) could only be viewed by a person with a secret or top secret clearance and that specific code word clearance. Each code word deals with a different kind of information. The CIA administers code word clearances.[16]"
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^

    In that case, Impeach!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    Yes

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/opinion/sunday/is-president-trump-obstructing-justice.amp.html
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    So he's not a good president? 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    Cliffy6745 said:
    So he's not a good president? 
    Comparatively speaking.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    In order for impeachment to happen, we will need this bobblehead congress to take action.  Probably wont happen.  It seems like many want to ride into the lava with Trump.  

    Every one of these guys, led by Paul Ryan and McConnell need to pay with their careers for this.

    I think our best hope is this just gets too much for trump to handle and he breaks down mentally and physically.  I think its coming.  
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    justamjustam Posts: 21,395
    This has GOT to get moving!!!!!!!!!!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    justam said:
    This has GOT to get moving!!!!!!!!!!
    It's moving, albeit slowly. His upcoming overseas trip will add fuel to the fire. GOP'ers are distancing themselves, particularly those up in 2018. Untenable to continue to be associated with and/or do Trump's bidding because there's no brilliance to be seen.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,664
    MayDay10 said:
    In order for impeachment to happen, we will need this bobblehead congress to take action.  Probably wont happen.  It seems like many want to ride into the lava with Trump.  

    Every one of these guys, led by Paul Ryan and McConnell need to pay with their careers for this.

    I think our best hope is this just gets too much for trump to handle and he breaks down mentally and physically.  I think its coming.  
    For congress to do anything, they'll have to perceive that their association with trump or their lack of action will hurt them in the next election. Otherwise they won't see a need to act. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    edited May 2017
    2019
    Only took took less than four months:




    Post edited by The Juggler on
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    The Juggler said:
    Only took took less than four months:





    Love me some fake polls.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    2019
    ^
    That is not a poll. 
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    2019
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2017
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
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    Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    2018
    Well with the Comey memos starting to come out those (FAKE!) numbers will change quickly.
    Spoiler Alert: Not the way Trump would like.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
    No, these are the same polls that you don't understand.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
    That is incorrect.  Fake, one might say.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    2019
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
    Um, no. That is something different. National polls were accurate as HRC won pop vote by roughly the same percentage she was leading the national polls by (has this been explained to you countless times by now?). The projections were wrong because a few of the swing state polls were inaccurate. National numbers were right just like they are now. Trump is wildly unpopular and becoming less and less so on a daily basis as his incompetence becomes more and more apparent to even his own supporters. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    edited May 2017
    2019
    Wow...Comey memo. 

    I may have to up my impeachment prediction to 2017...
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2017
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
    Um, no. That is something different. National polls were accurate as HRC won pop vote by roughly the same percentage she was leading the national polls by (has this been explained to you countless times by now?). The projections were wrong because a few of the swing state polls were inaccurate. National numbers were right just like they are now. Trump is wildly unpopular and becoming less and less so on a daily basis as his incompetence becomes more and more apparent to even his own supporters. 
    I was on the site a few times earlier this year and I found this link about impeachment just now.
    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/02/americans-now-evenly-divided-on-impeaching-trump.html
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    2019
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^

    I know, it's fake.
    How so?

    Aren't these same polls that gave President Trump less than 10% chance of winning the Presidency? Fake.
    Um, no. That is something different. National polls were accurate as HRC won pop vote by roughly the same percentage she was leading the national polls by (has this been explained to you countless times by now?). The projections were wrong because a few of the swing state polls were inaccurate. National numbers were right just like they are now. Trump is wildly unpopular and becoming less and less so on a daily basis as his incompetence becomes more and more apparent to even his own supporters. 
    I was on the site a few times earlier this year and I found this link about impeachment just now.
    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/02/americans-now-evenly-divided-on-impeaching-trump.html
    Wonderful. 
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    Oh yes he is going down 
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