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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    so, will this ruling be enough for Bolton? or will he want the court to order him by name to appear?
    Couple of things.. 

    1. It's going to be appealed.  
    2. The original ruling, which is continuously upheld, identified national security as a reason where someone may not be compelled to testify.  However, I would think a closed door initial depo would overcome that.  However, Kupperman's attorney has also argued that McGahn's case may not be binding to his because of the national security angle.  
    Didn't the wording of McGahn's lawyer's statement indicate that he might testify sooner than later though? Something about the court issuing a "stay?"
    A stay is basically an injunction,  preventing the order from taking effect. He basically said they would honor the stay. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    so, will this ruling be enough for Bolton? or will he want the court to order him by name to appear?
    Couple of things.. 

    1. It's going to be appealed.  
    2. The original ruling, which is continuously upheld, identified national security as a reason where someone may not be compelled to testify.  However, I would think a closed door initial depo would overcome that.  However, Kupperman's attorney has also argued that McGahn's case may not be binding to his because of the national security angle.  
    right. but it seems to me for purposes of the impeachment inquiry, specifically Boltons knowledge of any of this Ukraine business,  is outside the scope of actual national security implications.....
    One would think.  If Bolton wanted to testify,  I think he could.  If he didn't,  he could point to this carve out.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Now Pecker/ AMI coming forward

    Rats fleeing the sinking ship

    Busy day, wonder what else will come out this week?

    Going to be a lot of interesting Thanksgiving dinner discussions
    whats this?
    as for dinner conversations , I sure as fuck hope not. I work nights. Unsure what time I am off thursday morning( trucker, dont expect to be busy but still the freight thats in the system takes the time it takes to move to its destination) , will only get 3 or so hours sleep in the morning then will drive 4 hours one way to have dinner with a house full of folks I dont know.

    AMI American Media

    Company that originally bought and buried the Stormy Daniels story

    Their business model was basically a blackmail machine

    Like Epstein
    no I understand that part. the coming forward part I cant find info on. I thought Pecker had to give up ownership behind the Bezos lawsuit?
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/national-enquirer-ami-david-pecker-prosecutors/index.html

    'Pecker, the head of the company that publishes the National Enquirer, has spoken with prosecutors with the New York district attorney's office as part of its investigation into the Trump Organization's handling of hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with President Donald Trump, sources with knowledge of the meeting tell CNN.....  Pecker is expected to continue talking with prosecutors, sources said.'



    After seeing what happened to Epstein, how many beans do you think Pecker is willing to spill?

    I think he has a lot beans, I hope he spills them all.
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    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Now Pecker/ AMI coming forward

    Rats fleeing the sinking ship

    Busy day, wonder what else will come out this week?

    Going to be a lot of interesting Thanksgiving dinner discussions
    whats this?
    as for dinner conversations , I sure as fuck hope not. I work nights. Unsure what time I am off thursday morning( trucker, dont expect to be busy but still the freight thats in the system takes the time it takes to move to its destination) , will only get 3 or so hours sleep in the morning then will drive 4 hours one way to have dinner with a house full of folks I dont know.

    AMI American Media

    Company that originally bought and buried the Stormy Daniels story

    Their business model was basically a blackmail machine

    Like Epstein
    no I understand that part. the coming forward part I cant find info on. I thought Pecker had to give up ownership behind the Bezos lawsuit?
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/national-enquirer-ami-david-pecker-prosecutors/index.html

    'Pecker, the head of the company that publishes the National Enquirer, has spoken with prosecutors with the New York district attorney's office as part of its investigation into the Trump Organization's handling of hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with President Donald Trump, sources with knowledge of the meeting tell CNN.....  Pecker is expected to continue talking with prosecutors, sources said.'



    After seeing what happened to Epstein, how many beans do you think Pecker is willing to spill?

    I think he has a lot beans, I hope he spills them all.
    Poor Melania. For all of it to be made public via the courts. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,337
    2019
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    Now Pecker/ AMI coming forward

    Rats fleeing the sinking ship

    Busy day, wonder what else will come out this week?

    Going to be a lot of interesting Thanksgiving dinner discussions
    whats this?
    as for dinner conversations , I sure as fuck hope not. I work nights. Unsure what time I am off thursday morning( trucker, dont expect to be busy but still the freight thats in the system takes the time it takes to move to its destination) , will only get 3 or so hours sleep in the morning then will drive 4 hours one way to have dinner with a house full of folks I dont know.

    AMI American Media

    Company that originally bought and buried the Stormy Daniels story

    Their business model was basically a blackmail machine

    Like Epstein
    no I understand that part. the coming forward part I cant find info on. I thought Pecker had to give up ownership behind the Bezos lawsuit?
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/national-enquirer-ami-david-pecker-prosecutors/index.html

    'Pecker, the head of the company that publishes the National Enquirer, has spoken with prosecutors with the New York district attorney's office as part of its investigation into the Trump Organization's handling of hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with President Donald Trump, sources with knowledge of the meeting tell CNN.....  Pecker is expected to continue talking with prosecutors, sources said.'



    After seeing what happened to Epstein, how many beans do you think Pecker is willing to spill?

    I think he has a lot beans, I hope he spills them all.
    Poor Melania. For all of it to be made public via the courts. 
    ...right...
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    Kat said:
    Interesting. "Lordy, there are tapes."

    Report: Lev Parnas Handed Over Tapes of Trump and Giuliani to the House Intelligence Committee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lev-parnas-handed-over-tapes-of-trump-and-giuliani-to-the-house-intelligence-committee-917769/
    as an aside, i think that the only way Lev Parnas would seem more guilty is if his first name was Lex.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    yes.

    this dude is committing new impeachable offenses every week at this point.

    he can be removed from office and still run again in 2020 if he wants to.
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,842
    2019
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    yes.

    this dude is committing new impeachable offenses every week at this point.

    he can be removed from office and still run again in 2020 if he wants to.
    Mind boggling, isn't it?
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    I still maintain they should just drag out the inquiry.  Call witness after witness after witness after witness after witness. Each one more damning than the last.  

    Not only that, but keep bringing in the convictions. The plea bargains. The guilty pleas. This ain't Benghazi, actual crimes were committed.  Benghazi hearings lasted 3 years, and 0 charges pressed.  We'll still be putting actual criminals in jail for tRUmp & Russia in 2025.  

    Let's see Don sit through 10+ hours of testimony like Hillary did. Impeachment is the least of tRUmps worries.  
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    CM189191 said:
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    I still maintain they should just drag out the inquiry.  Call witness after witness after witness after witness after witness. Each one more damning than the last.  

    Not only that, but keep bringing in the convictions. The plea bargains. The guilty pleas. This ain't Benghazi, actual crimes were committed.  Benghazi hearings lasted 3 years, and 0 charges pressed.  We'll still be putting actual criminals in jail for tRUmp & Russia in 2025.  

    Let's see Don sit through 10+ hours of testimony like Hillary did. Impeachment is the least of tRUmps worries.  
    I believe 12 & 14 hours on two separate appearances. Lets see if Team Trump Treason’s health would allow for such scrutiny.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,941
    CM189191 said:
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    I still maintain they should just drag out the inquiry.  Call witness after witness after witness after witness after witness. Each one more damning than the last.  

    Not only that, but keep bringing in the convictions. The plea bargains. The guilty pleas. This ain't Benghazi, actual crimes were committed.  Benghazi hearings lasted 3 years, and 0 charges pressed.  We'll still be putting actual criminals in jail for tRUmp & Russia in 2025.  

    Let's see Don sit through 10+ hours of testimony like Hillary did. Impeachment is the least of tRUmps worries.  
    I believe 12 & 14 hours on two separate appearances. Lets see if Team Trump Treason’s health would allow for such scrutiny.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    CM189191 said:
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    I still maintain they should just drag out the inquiry.  Call witness after witness after witness after witness after witness. Each one more damning than the last.  

    Not only that, but keep bringing in the convictions. The plea bargains. The guilty pleas. This ain't Benghazi, actual crimes were committed.  Benghazi hearings lasted 3 years, and 0 charges pressed.  We'll still be putting actual criminals in jail for tRUmp & Russia in 2025.  

    Let's see Don sit through 10+ hours of testimony like Hillary did. Impeachment is the least of tRUmps worries.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,337
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    CM189191 said:
    Can a president be impeached more than once? I mean, I guess he can right?

    I'm just thinking of if the democrats don't get Bolton to testify and he's not convicted, which is likely.....the odds are high that another impeachable offense is right around the corner.
    I still maintain they should just drag out the inquiry.  Call witness after witness after witness after witness after witness. Each one more damning than the last.  

    Not only that, but keep bringing in the convictions. The plea bargains. The guilty pleas. This ain't Benghazi, actual crimes were committed.  Benghazi hearings lasted 3 years, and 0 charges pressed.  We'll still be putting actual criminals in jail for tRUmp & Russia in 2025.  

    Let's see Don sit through 10+ hours of testimony like Hillary did. Impeachment is the least of tRUmps worries.  
    You might be right. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
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    Another idiot lapping up Baffoon dong!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,181

    Another idiot lapping up Baffoon dong!
    you said dong... lol
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
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    Another idiot lapping up Baffoon dong!
    you said dong... lol
    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-11-26/trump-denies-sending-rudy-giuliani-to-ukraine-for-biden-probe
    how can anyone just sit there and not call this idiot a fucking liar , now he doesn’t know what Giuliani was doing there lol unreal 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,337
    2019
    "You'd have to ask Rudy." ---Trump when asked what was Rudy doing in Ukraine.

    The bus is warming up, folks. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,934
    he's shown time and again, he has no problem throwing folks under the bus..... and yet these fuckers still line up to get fucked
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,337
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    NY Times saying White House lawyers made Trump aware of the whistle blower complaint in late August. Two weeks before he released the aid. 


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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    NY Times saying White House lawyers made Trump aware of the whistle blower complaint in late August. Two weeks before he released the aid. 


    In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

    He is such a crook.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,337
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    dignin said:
    NY Times saying White House lawyers made Trump aware of the whistle blower complaint in late August. Two weeks before he released the aid. 


    In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

    He is such a crook.
    "NO QUID PRO QUO!
    NO QUID PRO QUO!"  .....said WEEKS after he knew about the complaint.

    Aid released.....WEEKS (not just days) after he knew about the complaint.


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
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    Article two “ gives me the right to do what ever I want “ ok King Baffoon 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,692

    The play is so transparent.  Go on Fox and give the narrative cover.  Then go on CNN and walk it back.  The lunatics will never see it, they're safe in their bubble and Kennedy can think he's still credible.  Pathetic. 
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,842
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    Another idiot lapping up Baffoon dong!
    This made me lololol 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    You'll have to ask my attorney Michael, Michael Cohen...

    You'll have to ask Rudy.

    I'd be thankful if he stayed in Florida.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    2018

    Trump crowd chants 'bulls---' after he says polls show impeachment backfiring for Democrats


    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472199-trump-crowd-chants-bull-after-he-says-polls-show-impeachment-backfiring-for
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