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cincybearcat

2018

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

Ledbetterman10

bootlegger10 said:

Cohen’s testimony  is already old news.   Nothing we didn’t already know.  Every week we say this is the thing that will ruin him and it just fades away.

I took Cohen's testimony as a bit of a "pre-show" for the real circus of Ivanka and Don Jr. possibly having to testify in front of congress, as well as the Mueller report. 

pjhawks

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

OnWis97

"THE FIELD"

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

Ledbetterman10

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

Yeah some people seem to think that if he loses in 2020, he may just sit in the Oval Office with his arms-crossed saying "I'm not leaving!" That'll never happen. But what also won't happen is him shaking the hand of the person that beats him and wishing him/her well. Remember how gracefully Bush Sr. handled losing to Clinton in 1992? Trump will NOT be like that. 

OnWis97

"THE FIELD"

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

Yeah some people seem to think that if he loses in 2020, he may just sit in the Oval Office with his arms-crossed saying "I'm not leaving!" That'll never happen. But what also won't happen is him shaking the hand of the person that beats him and wishing him/her well. Remember how gracefully Bush Sr. handled losing to Clinton in 1992? Trump will NOT be like that. 

No...he'd be whining and bitching about how he lost because of voter fraud and how the winner should be locked up.  It would be embarrassing for him and the country.  But a few days later, we'd move on (which would bug him more). 

It's really important to the country to beat him in 2020.  But my petty side would enjoy it as well.

dignin

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

Yeah some people seem to think that if he loses in 2020, he may just sit in the Oval Office with his arms-crossed saying "I'm not leaving!" That'll never happen. But what also won't happen is him shaking the hand of the person that beats him and wishing him/her well. Remember how gracefully Bush Sr. handled losing to Clinton in 1992? Trump will NOT be like that. 

It's not that he won't leave, it's him saying the whole thing was rigged/fraud and his cult believing that wholeheartedly. 

There are many possibilities and implications that can fallout from that. None of which are good for anyone.

HughFreakingDillon

2018

if he loses he'll create a whack of EO's just to spite the democrats. Nov-Jan will just be one big long tantrum. He'd probably do weird things to the oval too. 

josevolution

2018

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

Yeah some people seem to think that if he loses in 2020, he may just sit in the Oval Office with his arms-crossed saying "I'm not leaving!" That'll never happen. But what also won't happen is him shaking the hand of the person that beats him and wishing him/her well. Remember how gracefully Bush Sr. handled losing to Clinton in 1992? Trump will NOT be like that. 

It's not that he won't leave, it's him saying the whole thing was rigged/fraud and his cult believing that wholeheartedly. 

There are many possibilities and implications that can fallout from that. None of which are good for anyone.

You & I on the same page ..

bootlegger10

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

So is your concern that he incites the public to be violent?    I don't think that would happen, but if it does then it highlights a much bigger problem in the US than Donald Trump.

josevolution

2018

bootlegger10 said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

So is your concern that he incites the public to be violent?    I don't think that would happen, but if it does then it highlights a much bigger problem in the US than Donald Trump.

Yep that’s what he will do , have you not been listening to his attacks on the Press ? 

bootlegger10

josevolution said:

bootlegger10 said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

So is your concern that he incites the public to be violent?    I don't think that would happen, but if it does then it highlights a much bigger problem in the US than Donald Trump.

Yep that’s what he will do , have you not been listening to his attacks on the Press ? 

Yeah, Trump is despicable and hates the press.  Will that transition to mass violence if he loses an election or is impeached?  I don't think so.  There would be pockets of violence from some idiots (and that is unacceptable), but I don't think it will turn into anything major.

OnWis97

"THE FIELD"

HughFreakingDillon said:

if he loses he'll create a whack of EO's just to spite the democrats. Nov-Jan will just be one big long tantrum. He'd probably do weird things to the oval too. 

P-Tape II: Geriatric Boogaloo.

But yeah.  Lame Duck Trump would be a big mess.  He'd do anything he could just to be petulant.  Maybe the 25th would come out and we'd have President Pence for like six weeks.

The Juggler

2019

"Constant contact with the Southern District of New York" regarding ongoing investigations into the president
Bank Fraud
Tax Fraud
Charity Fraud
Campaign Finance Violations
Obstruction of Justice
Colluding with and being leveraged by the Russians
etc
etc
etc

I've said since the beginning that many roads will lead to impeachment/resignation. That's never been truer than it is right now. Biggest problem the dems will eventually have is to choose what's the most egregious crime to act on.

 

dignin

The Juggler said:

"Constant contact with the Southern District of New York" regarding ongoing investigations into the president
Bank Fraud
Tax Fraud
Charity Fraud
Obstruction of Justice
Colluding with and being leveraged by the Russians
etc
etc
etc

I've said since the beginning that many roads will lead to impeachment/resignation. That's never been truer than it is right now. Biggest problem the dems will eventually have is to choose what's the most egregious crime to act on.

 

Do they have to pick just one?

The Juggler

2019

dignin said:

The Juggler said:

"Constant contact with the Southern District of New York" regarding ongoing investigations into the president
Bank Fraud
Tax Fraud
Charity Fraud
Obstruction of Justice
Colluding with and being leveraged by the Russians
etc
etc
etc

I've said since the beginning that many roads will lead to impeachment/resignation. That's never been truer than it is right now. Biggest problem the dems will eventually have is to choose what's the most egregious crime to act on.

 

Do they have to pick just one?

I honestly have no idea how this will all work once everything is out in the open. 

The Juggler

2019

The Juggler said:

dignin said:

The Juggler said:

"Constant contact with the Southern District of New York" regarding ongoing investigations into the president
Bank Fraud
Tax Fraud
Charity Fraud
Obstruction of Justice
Colluding with and being leveraged by the Russians
etc
etc
etc

I've said since the beginning that many roads will lead to impeachment/resignation. That's never been truer than it is right now. Biggest problem the dems will eventually have is to choose what's the most egregious crime to act on.

 

Do they have to pick just one?

I honestly have no idea how this will all work once everything is out in the open. 

By the way---I added "Campaign Finance Violations" to the list. There are so many crimes he is involved with that it's hard to keep track. 

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

The Juggler said:

dignin said:

The Juggler said:

"Constant contact with the Southern District of New York" regarding ongoing investigations into the president
Bank Fraud
Tax Fraud
Charity Fraud
Obstruction of Justice
Colluding with and being leveraged by the Russians
etc
etc
etc

I've said since the beginning that many roads will lead to impeachment/resignation. That's never been truer than it is right now. Biggest problem the dems will eventually have is to choose what's the most egregious crime to act on.

 

Do they have to pick just one?

I honestly have no idea how this will all work once everything is out in the open. 

By the way---I added "Campaign Finance Violations" to the list. There are so many crimes he is involved with that it's hard to keep track. 

Add money laundering and FICA violations. The house will list them all in articles of impeachment and the dems in the senate will prosecute those they can prove, maybe some they can’t. Going out as a martyr in a plea deal will be better for Team Trump Treason’s “brand” so he’ll either resign, not run again or be impeached and removed from office. Then he can fully blame the deep state, Hillary and dems and make money from it.

Lerxst1992

"THE FIELD"

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

If I were him, I'd be a little concerned about losing. In the following 10 mostly red or purple states he is even in 1 and had a net disapproval rating in 9. I'd also point to the midterm results and turnout.


IA -14
NC -4
OH -6
PA -10
TX -0-
WI -16
MI -15
FL -4
GA -2
AZ -8

I'm not sure how he recovers in the double digit disapproval states. 



https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

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The Juggler

2019

Lerxst1992 said:

OnWis97 said:

pjhawks said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

cincybearcat said:

Just my personal opinion of the Cohen testimony...

I don't think there was a lot of new info.  Now, having a check would be amazing, but only if it can really be linked.  I personally think they should have left all the racism, etc out of the conversation.  That seemed like a hollywood add to make it dramatic.  Focus on the crimes. 

So - I'm sure there is more to come with Mueller etc. but I was let down.  It is also amazing that we can know all of this stuff about the president and he still stands a decent chance at being re-elected.  Even if he can't be removed from office...he should be unelectable.  

lol even if he looses next election he won’t leave office peacefully doesn’t that concern you ?

What is funny?

Does it concern me that Cohen says that?  Not any more than you saying it.  It concerns me more than it should and it's the first time I've had the thought that it could be a problem.  But does it really concern me? No.  I don't think it happens.

it's not even a concern.  we have laws in this country. there is no way he won't be required to leave the White House when he loses.  not even other republican's will allow for that to happen.  you should have a lot more faith in our system than that.

It's not a concern because he's going to win.

But even if he loses, all "not going away peacefully" does is make him look like a petulant baby. It would make what I believe will be an awful legacy look even worse.  

If I were him, I'd be a little concerned about losing. In the following 10 mostly red or purple states he is even in 1 and had a net disapproval rating in 9. I'd also point to the midterm results and turnout.


IA -14
NC -4
OH -6
PA -10
TX -0-
WI -16
MI -15
FL -4
GA -2
AZ -8

I'm not sure how he recovers in the double digit disapproval states. 



https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

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His numbers are atrocious for an incumbent.....and I suspect will only get worse as different investigations come to an end