Springsteen at Australia Concert: 'We Stand Before You Embarrassed Americans'

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    buck502000 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner.
    I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.

    Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
    Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
    Nope - just that he should use different words.
    Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".

    Free =\= your perception of an issue
    Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
    You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.

    What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
    As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
    So if someone is embarrassed that their country could be stupid enough to someone like Donald Trump president, they're "cow tailing toward one political party or view"? And when Bruce speaks up against Donald trump, it's handlers and controllers that have influenced that?

    And in what way would what Bruce said be something "unfit" for a "role model" to say...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,588
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    buck502000 said:

    I will be getting rid of his vinyl records in my collection - more like banned in the USA!!!

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/03/bruce-springsteen-australia-concert-embarrassed-americans-dont-hang

    ah just enjoy the music, many musicians as they grow older lose that passion and forget what made their music so attractive. he can now afford to lose a few that share your opinion. what happened to rebel rock anyway? have I grown older and out of touch also?
    25 years ago today


    100,000 Obama bombs later
    I know you think you're putting us PJ libs in an idol worship double bind, but what dis Ed say about Bill Clinton dropping bombs? Maybe during his visit to the White House?

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    Actually, next to Ed, Jeff is by far the most politically outspoken.

    If I saw Bruce, I would take a picture with him also. But then I would ask, why did you say those things in Australia?
    And he would say something like; "Because our country is run by a fucking idiot, who wants to treat people as second class citizens based on their religion and denies the very real threat of climate change."

    And, what would be the problem?

    "But Bruce... you're a role model.. you should just stay silent... because of... reasons"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    unsung said:

    And if he wants to Dixie Chicks himself and get right next to Madonna then let him.

    So then, why so butthurt..?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    I think Unsung and Buck are trolling hardcore in this thread and are seeing how much traction they can get with each ridiculous statement. Just like the idiot in the WH.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    buck502000 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    You start a thread about your belief that Bruce Springsteen is unpatriotic because he's embarrassed of the President's actions, then you yourself start nonsensical talk of an absolute proven conspiracy theory and BRUCE is the one who is unpatriotic and embarrassed?? Whatever man. I don't have The Rising on vinyl. I'll take that one.

    No, he's embarrassed to be American.
    And why do you get so hurt by him being that? It's his opinion... He's not speaking for you. he speaks for himself.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    buck502000 said:

    I will be getting rid of his vinyl records in my collection - more like banned in the USA!!!

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/03/bruce-springsteen-australia-concert-embarrassed-americans-dont-hang

    I wish to revisit Scruffy's point:

    Bruce says he's an 'embarrassed' American speaking to a crowd in Australia.

    Buck denounces America and moves to Europe because things aren't the way he likes in America.

    Who's unpatriotic?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsung
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    C'mon, Metallica??? That is a whole 'nother thread. Has beens.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    C'mon, Metallica??? That is a whole 'nother thread. Has beens.

    This is you in this thread:

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    C'mon, Metallica??? That is a whole 'nother thread. Has beens.

    This is you in this thread:

    Hahahahahahaha

    It's funny because it's true.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,608
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I like Unsung but I'm not sure I go for the "without being a PJ fan" we wouldn't hear of Bruce anymore. First, I think Bruce gets 10x the publicity Pearl Jam gets. Even when our band just puts out a record. Bruce is an American icon when it comes to music.
    Second, aside from "Working on a Dream" and "High Hopes" (A bsides record), everything he's put out has been timeless. In fact, "Magic" from 2005(?) and "Wrecking Ball"(2012?) are timeless masterpieces right there with his earlier work. "Magic" is one of my picks for most underrated albums of the 2000's. The guy still has it. The fact that he is still selling out stadiums all over the world after forty years of being outspoken politically shows that he will get through this squeaky clean and unscathed.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,437
    unsung said:


    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
    Are you really even a PJ fan?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    unsung said:


    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
    OMG
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    edited February 2017
    unsung said:


    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
    metacritic.com/music/hardwiredto-self-destruct/metallica/critic-reviews

    You seem to have it all wrong.

    But feel free to move the goalposts again or keep that "Artist X hasn't been relevant since the 80's" thing going.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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  • unsung
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    edited February 2017
    tbergs said:

    unsung said:


    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
    Are you really even a PJ fan?
    My original tenclub number was ###. You tell me.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,510
    unsung said:

    tbergs said:

    unsung said:


    mickeyrat said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    He is like Bon Jovi and Nickelback, sells some records but not many will really admit to being a fan.

    C'mon man.

    I know you like being oppositional, but this is going too far. And to boot... you tossed Metallica in the same 'irrelevant' category.

    Enough of the silliness.
    picking up metallicas new record today. atlas rise(?) the first single fucking rocks.
    OMG. You can't be serious.

    Nobody has used Metallica and fucking rocks in the same sentence since Justice.
    Are you really even a PJ fan?
    My original tenclub number was ###. You tell me.
    You let the membership lapse in 1994 when they stopped being relevant? ;)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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