Text of Muslim Ban Executive Order in a few posts

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JC29856 said:

    Lets go far down the fact finding rabbit hole
    Fact: thread name "Text of Muslim ban"
    Fact: nowhere in the text of the Muslim ban is the word Muslim
    Fact: Syria is the only country listed in the text of the Muslim ban
    Fact: 12% of the worlds Muslims reside in the 1 country listed in the text plus the other 6 referred to in the text of the Muslim ban
    Fact: 88% of the worlds Muslims are not Muslim banned from entering the US

    NOW FACTS MATTER?!?!

    who are you?
  • dignin said:


    lol
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,776
    ISIS is celebrating trump's ban as the best recruitment tool they have ever been gifted.

    the dumbest foreign policy snafu in decades, if not ever.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    tbergs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.

    If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

    Its right here:

    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
    Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.
    I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,974
    Diplomats Dissent
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-diplomats-dissent-memo-trump_us_588f5901e4b08a14f7e70b8e?

    "The draft memo does not contain any signatures, and its contents are categorized as “Sensitive But Unclassified.” The use of “dissent memos” at the State Department dates back to the Vietnam War, when they were considered necessary to ensure that diplomats on the ground had a means to express opinions that differed with formal U.S. policy.

    To say that the writers of Monday’s dissent memo expressed opinions that differed with the Trump administration may be an understatement. “This ban stands in opposition to the core American values that we, as federal employees, took an oath to uphold,” they wrote. "
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,621

    tbergs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.

    If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

    Its right here:

    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
    Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.
    I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.
    It was an intentional omission. Now as to why, that's left up to the individual.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Australian Teen Denied Visa For Space Camp in US Because His Parents Are From Iran

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263

    tbergs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.

    If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

    Its right here:

    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
    Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.
    I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.
    It was an intentional omission. Now as to why, that's left up to the individual.
    Yeah, I think this particular issue (Holocaust tweet) is a phony media/left attack job only. Certainly, the immigrant ban is something that you can strongly disagree with.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458

    tbergs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.

    If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

    Its right here:

    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
    Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.
    I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.
    It was an intentional omission. Now as to why, that's left up to the individual.
    Yeah, I think this particular issue (Holocaust tweet) is a phony media/left attack job only. Certainly, the immigrant ban is something that you can strongly disagree with.
    I'm unsure about the tweet wording controversy. They have admitted it was left out intentionally, but I question if it was done to be more inclusive as they say, since they have taken a divisive approach on every other topic. The problem with this administration is that they lie so much it's hard to know what's really going on.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,776
    tbergs said:

    tbergs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Funny...I don't see the word Muslim anywhere in the text, nor do I see any country listed other than Syria.

    If that is a Muslim ban, Trump excluded countries that comprise about 90% of worldwide Muslims.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

    Its right here:

    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f)
    Kind of like how they left "Jews" out of the post paying respect to the "innocents" of the Holocaust. In Trump's world, if you don't utter the phrases then you have plausible deniability that you supported a certain stance with your base supporters while making those who read between the line sound like they are the one's being irrational and insensitive.
    I think the outrage to the tweet is a stretch. I think when you bring up the Holocaust it implies the victims were the Jews. Trump wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem so I don't think the administration is anti-Israel.
    It was an intentional omission. Now as to why, that's left up to the individual.
    Yeah, I think this particular issue (Holocaust tweet) is a phony media/left attack job only. Certainly, the immigrant ban is something that you can strongly disagree with.
    I'm unsure about the tweet wording controversy. They have admitted it was left out intentionally, but I question if it was done to be more inclusive as they say, since they have taken a divisive approach on every other topic. The problem with this administration is that they lie so much it's hard to know what's really going on.
    probably because Bannon was in the room when he wrote it. trump was afraid of the big bad nazi.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,801
    Wait a minute so the ban it only applies to radical Islamic terrorist not Muslims yeah ok lol
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    my2hands said:
    I can see Trump wandering around stunned "What, how is this possible? I thought won the election, how can this happen?"
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,621
    dignin said:

    my2hands said:
    I can see Trump wandering around stunned "What, how is this possible? I thought won the election, how can this happen?"
    "Since when are women Generals? Is she two star or three star?"
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    my2hands said:
    Yay!
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    She will likely be fired by 9am after a 20+ year career dedicated to serving the American public at the Department of Justice

    Meanwhile over those same 20 years the rich asshole that's going to fire her didn't contribute a nickel to this country
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,974
    I also think he'll fire her...he's dying to say you're fired to her....
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    my2hands said:

    She will likely be fired by 9am after a 20+ year career dedicated to serving the American public at the Department of Justice

    Meanwhile over those same 20 years the rich asshole that's going to fire her didn't contribute a nickel to this country

    Fuckin eh!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    A short lived victory, but worth it.
    It's a hopeless situation...