People you know that support Trump

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  • MeanMr.Mustard
    MeanMr.Mustard TBA Posts: 127

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    In my most humble of opinions, this was not the election to vote for a third party candidate.

    Agreed. Worst timing ever.
    Wah!! It's never a good time to vote third-party, wah! I'm still with Her!!
    That's mature, lol.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    same in Canada. NDP (new democratic party). they are known as the union party. if you vote otherwise, you are considered a traitor.
    Maybe if you vote Conservative, since they are quite specifically anti-union (and will be very forcefully anti-union when O'Leary wins the leadership), and that is pretty justified. A union member voting for an anti-union party? Yeah, that's a vote against the union you belong to for sure, and pretty stupid too, unless the voter intends to quit their job. This isn't true if you're talking about the Liberal Party or the Green Party though. Unions don't expect you to vote NDP, they just kind of expect union members to not vote against the existence of unions. Obviously.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited January 2017

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    You know union members who specifically vote against their own interests and rights as union members? They must be pretty dumb. Voting for those who will support the union you belong to isn't "playing along". It's just common sense.
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  • MeanMr.Mustard
    MeanMr.Mustard TBA Posts: 127

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
    well this time it seems the Rep's(Trump) are a favorite for many of the union workers, have you ever been involved in a union ?
    ever ran for a union position ? spent time on the inner working of a local office and dealt with a union president ? if you have then you know union leaders always support a dem. candidate .....right or wrong, and throw money at them to try and buy a little security of at least a good lie to hold them over till the next political money grabber comes along.

    that's all I'm given, I've been disgusted with dems for quite some time now.

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
    well this time it seems the Rep's(Trump) are a favorite for many of the union workers, have you ever been involved in a union ?
    ever ran for a union position ? spent time on the inner working of a local office and dealt with a union president ? if you have then you know union leaders always support a dem. candidate .....right or wrong, and throw money at them to try and buy a little security of at least a good lie to hold them over till the next political money grabber comes along.

    that's all I'm given, I've been disgusted with dems for quite some time now.

    That's not the question. The question is who do you think supports unions more often than not, R's or D's?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,464

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
    well this time it seems the Rep's(Trump) are a favorite for many of the union workers, have you ever been involved in a union ?
    ever ran for a union position ? spent time on the inner working of a local office and dealt with a union president ? if you have then you know union leaders always support a dem. candidate .....right or wrong, and throw money at them to try and buy a little security of at least a good lie to hold them over till the next political money grabber comes along.

    that's all I'm given, I've been disgusted with dems for quite some time now.

    Yeah there's a reason for that. The GOP isn't a labor friendly party. They want nothing more than for you to be unprotected from your employer. Get that through your thick skull please.
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  • MeanMr.Mustard
    MeanMr.Mustard TBA Posts: 127

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
    well this time it seems the Rep's(Trump) are a favorite for many of the union workers, have you ever been involved in a union ?
    ever ran for a union position ? spent time on the inner working of a local office and dealt with a union president ? if you have then you know union leaders always support a dem. candidate .....right or wrong, and throw money at them to try and buy a little security of at least a good lie to hold them over till the next political money grabber comes along.

    that's all I'm given, I've been disgusted with dems for quite some time now.

    Yeah there's a reason for that. The GOP isn't a labor friendly party. They want nothing more than for you to be unprotected from your employer. Get that through your thick skull please.
    never said they were and the dems just lie about it....thick skull ???? is that any way to talk to a sensitive 10c member, I'm hurt...where's my binki and coloring book ! LOL !

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771

    90% of the people I personally know voted for and support Trump, after the TPP deal was shot down even many of the union members I know who were hard nosed Democrats have started rethinking their stance with Trump, I told them when this started that Trump could very well be a great push for unions and it looks as though that may be the case.

    that's because every union person I know votes their own interests. not society's.
    and that is Democrat, right, wrong or otherwise union leaders always vote and push Democrat and that just baffles me..unions need to separate themselves from party lines and research the candidates rather than just pick the Dem.
    So say unions look at candidates completely objectively, what do you think would be the end result with how often they support dem vs. rep?
    couldn't tell ya, Union leaders always pick a dem candidate and push it onto the working members..some play along and some vote their feelings.

    Mr. opinion can't give an opinion? Whose policies in general favor unions vs. which one works against union goals and objectives?
    well this time it seems the Rep's(Trump) are a favorite for many of the union workers, have you ever been involved in a union ?
    ever ran for a union position ? spent time on the inner working of a local office and dealt with a union president ? if you have then you know union leaders always support a dem. candidate .....right or wrong, and throw money at them to try and buy a little security of at least a good lie to hold them over till the next political money grabber comes along.

    that's all I'm given, I've been disgusted with dems for quite some time now.

    Yeah there's a reason for that. The GOP isn't a labor friendly party. They want nothing more than for you to be unprotected from your employer. Get that through your thick skull please.
    never said they were and the dems just lie about it....thick skull ???? is that any way to talk to a sensitive 10c member, I'm hurt...where's my binki and coloring book ! LOL !

    but you've been hating on the democrats and and supporting the republicans for 8 years now. or was it for another, more obvious reason?
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  • MeanMr.Mustard
    MeanMr.Mustard TBA Posts: 127
    the dems use organized labor solely for their money period and after the check clears they say "union who ?" ...until the next election cycle comes around......sucks !
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,464

    the dems use organized labor solely for their money period and after the check clears they say "union who ?" ...until the next election cycle comes around......sucks !

    Horseshit. The GOP has made it their priority to destroy unions. Why would you support the party that wants to cut your throat?

    You are an extremely low information voter. We all know it.
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  • MeanMr.Mustard
    MeanMr.Mustard TBA Posts: 127

    the dems use organized labor solely for their money period and after the check clears they say "union who ?" ...until the next election cycle comes around......sucks !

    Horseshit. The GOP has made it their priority to destroy unions. Why would you support the party that wants to cut your throat?

    You are an extremely low information voter. We all know it.
    ahhh now it's horseshit and "we all know it" speaking of low information why don't you tell me what the fuck the dems have done for unions, no argument about the rep's I agree but bullshit on the Democratic Hero nonsense.

  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618

    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.

    Some way more than others. It also helps when there's laws against it.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,464
    edited February 2017

    the dems use organized labor solely for their money period and after the check clears they say "union who ?" ...until the next election cycle comes around......sucks !

    Horseshit. The GOP has made it their priority to destroy unions. Why would you support the party that wants to cut your throat?

    You are an extremely low information voter. We all know it.
    ahhh now it's horseshit and "we all know it" speaking of low information why don't you tell me what the fuck the dems have done for unions, no argument about the rep's I agree but bullshit on the Democratic Hero nonsense.

    Well...for one they OPPOSED the shit that the GOP passed to weaken unions

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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.

    Some way more than others. It also helps when there's laws against it.
    Agreed, which is why there are laws against it... Or are you saying that there should be extra laws against it, and if so, can you give an example as to how that would read?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    PJPOWER said:

    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.

    Some way more than others. It also helps when there's laws against it.
    Agreed, which is why there are laws against it... Or are you saying that there should be extra laws against it, and if so, can you give an example as to how that would read?
    Right now there's attempts to remove lgbt protections on a federal level.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    PJPOWER said:

    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.

    Some way more than others. It also helps when there's laws against it.
    Agreed, which is why there are laws against it... Or are you saying that there should be extra laws against it, and if so, can you give an example as to how that would read?
    Right now there's attempts to remove lgbt protections on a federal level.
    Yup. Donald Trump pledges to sign anti-LGBTQ ‘First Amendment Defense Act’

    The only thing you'll need to claim in order to discriminate against a gay person is a "moral conviction". That apparently absolves one from being an asshole. Religionists are funny. BTW, not surprised to know that Mike Lee from Utah is a sponsor, and that homophobic, racist and all around asshole Attorney General nominee Jeff Sessions loves the bill.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,517

    Racism, bigotry, and misogyny run everywhere in all professions.

    As well as fear, hate, and ignorance