We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Trump is damn arrogant I agree and it annoys the hell out of me. But I think most presidents have a level of arrogance. To run in the first place you have to have a pretty big ego.
i agree, you gotta have an ego and a certain arrogance to run for office. but i don't see how Clinton calling 50% Trump supporters deplorables is considered arrogant. it's more like a comment out of frustration. she's not saying that she was born smarter then them. she's calling them a name, but really how can you disagree when you see/hear the racism/bigotry spewed from these people? The Obama speech is totally off base. no arrogance there. just a man reminding people that government is made up of people and it does do some good. how is that arrogant?
again, i take issue with people who think they are born smart and have nothing else to learn. go to a library. walk into the nonfiction section. open any book. i am almost willing to guarantee you the first page will blow your mind. now consider how many books and how many pages are left to read.
She thinks that I'm a toothless idiot. Well how did that work out for her? What if someone was sitting on the fence, considering her or Trump. Do you know how bad that plays with an undecided? Look at the county by county map that flipped from blue to red and that might be a start. I'm conservative but I don't fit into any of those phobias described,,, none I'm not racist I'm not homophobe xenophobe islamophobe none of that and yet conservatives are blanketed with those stereotypes based on being conservative. Talk about divisive. Somebody on this thread, called me racist and low information. I'm quite the contrary. I am very informed.
I don't think you're toothless.
I'm gonna guess you have 20 IQ points for every tooth you have.
80. Not too shabby!
(joking)
I never get anywhere in these political threads. So I'm going to go back to discussing vinyl and music. I've never taken an IQ test so I don't know what my IQ is. If I did take an IQ test nobody ever told me the score. I don't know how to start my car and I cary my drule cup with me where ever I go, cup with me, yep yep.
You're in the group that we libs want to hear from, though. You can think rationally and string together words to make a sentence. We want to know how these people chose trump over Clinton. Really, weighing them one vs. the other, pro and con. Policy vs. policy. I'm still trying to figure it out. People like you who went with trump are retreating to quiet corners. No. Please tell me how you voted for the sex offender over Clinton.
Which is a great quote to use. So do you believe Pence when he alluded to Trump supporters that Hillary said this as as men lay dying in the embassy or do you know the actual truth of when she said it? Serious question.
Yes that was her answer when she was dodging Ron Johnson's questions about what happened at the embassy in Benghazi. https://youtu.be/NNZkYuRY1xI
Donald Trump was my last choice during the primaries. But it was him or this woman. And if you are worried about sex offenders, Check out Bill's wild past. Alright see I'm just going to piss you off more.
There's a pedo thread if you want to know more about pizza.
What, again, exactly was the result of the Benghazi investigations?
Here’s a List Outlining How Delusional or Ignorant Someone Has to Be to Support Trump
Allen Clifton At this point, there’s really no other way to say this, so I’ll be blunt: To be someone who supports Donald Trump you have to be woefully naive to the point of brainwashed delusion, legitimately mentally unstable, certifiably insane, flat-out stupid, or you’re just a terrible person who agrees with his ignorance and isn’t bothered by supporting a wannabe dictator.
As I asked my friend the other day, “How many conspiracies does someone need to believe are real in order to be a Trump supporter?”
I’m not even going to get into every conspiracy or lie Trump’s said, I’m going to focus on a few things he said before the election, then the things he’s said since being sworn in.
So, to be a Trump supporter, you have to believe:
He always opposed the Iraq War like he says, despite the fact he’s on an audio recording right here saying he supported the war. President Obama forged two different forms of his birth certificate and government agencies were part of an elaborate conspiracy to support an “illegitimate president.” Him when he said removing Gaddafi in Libya was a “disaster,” even though he’s on a video that he recorded saying we needed to go into Libya and remove the dictator. That he personally witnessed “thousands” of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in the streets of New Jersey, yet every media entity on the planet that was around during that time is part of an elaborate conspiracy to conceal the footage — including Fox News. He never called climate change a hoax created by the Chinese (something he denied saying during a debate), even though the tweet of him saying that is right here. The NFL personally sent him a letter complaining about the dates of the presidential debates, even though the league instantly denied ever doing so, and Trump never produced evidence of the letter. The FBI was working to help get Hillary Clinton elected, until they weren’t, but then they were — but then they weren’t. That he only lost the popular vote because “3-5 million” people voted illegally, even though he’s yet to produce a shred of evidence to support that claim. Furthermore, for that many people to have voted illegally would have taken cooperation among thousands of people, including both Democrats and Republicans, at all levels of government — and not a single person has come forward to support his claim. That celebrities were fighting to get invited to his inauguration, but he didn’t want them there. That his inauguration crowd was really the largest in history, but the media is lying about it — even though that claim was also debunked on Fox News. That there’s a massive global conspiracy by media outlets in every single country to conceal terrorist attacks from being known publicly. Any poll, news report, or really anything negative about him is “fake.” Russia didn’t want him elected, even though he’s the only person who benefitted from their cyber attack. He has absolutely nothing to hide in the tax returns that he still refuses to release and has repeatedly lied about why he won’t release them. That a man who’s been sued several thousand times, including a $25 million settlement for fraud, won’t try to use the presidency to benefit his business interests he promised to divest from, but then didn’t. He’s going to “drain the swamp” by surrounding himself with billionaires, top donors, and Wall Street executives. Radical conspiracy website InfoWars, a website founded by Alex Jones (you know, the guy who said Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons who smell like death and sulfur), is a well-respected and credible source of information. Unemployment is really 42 percent and there are up to 30 million illegal immigrants — most of whom are rapists and criminals. And the sad part is, there are many… many more I could have listed here, but I think I’ve made my point.
To be a Donald Trump supporter means you have to believe these unfounded and ridiculous conspiracies exist and there are massive coverups taking place involving scientists, the U.S. media, the global media, Republicans, Democrats, the NFL, U.S. intelligence agencies, Howard Stern, and literally tens of thousands of people from all over the world — or you know he’s a pathological liar and fraud who fabricates all this ridiculous nonsense, and you simple don’t care.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
I get your point on him "hating to lose" but I am explaining the reality to you that he doesn't actually "lose" with the stay of the order. It might be cathartic for some of you but long term it is a win for him politically. Second I am not even sure this will go to the Supreme Court...the approach hasn't been decided and the smarter play might just to be to rewrite the EO which he can easily do. The odds are if they go to the Supreme Court they will wait until after the Gorsuch confirmation which increases the likelihood of the stay being overturned. You have to realize that even liberal legal minds who do not like the EO recognize the wrongheadedness of the Ninth Circuit Decision. Troll away if you like but it leads the #resistance into a dead end. The emotional need to have Trump stopped on any subject is getting the better of all of you.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
I get your point on him "hating to lose" but I am explaining the reality to you that he doesn't actually "lose" with the stay of the order. It might be cathartic for some of you but long term it is a win for him politically. Second I am not even sure this will go to the Supreme Court...the approach hasn't been decided and the smarter play might just to be to rewrite the EO which he can easily do. The odds are if they go to the Supreme Court they will wait until after the Gorsuch confirmation which increases the likelihood of the stay being overturned. You have to realize that even liberal legal minds who do not like the EO recognize the wrongheadedness of the Ninth Circuit Decision. Troll away if you like but it leads the #resistance into a dead end. The emotional need to have Trump stopped on any subject is getting the better of all of you.
I agree the smart play is to re-write the order. However he will still face a challenge because of the tweets he has made that are rooted in anti-Muslim rhetoric. They are admissable. Now if he waits for Gorsuch to be approved (which will be no short process) that torpedoes his argument about why he had to act so fast... bad hombres pouring in and such. Not sure how he squares those arguments.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
I get your point on him "hating to lose" but I am explaining the reality to you that he doesn't actually "lose" with the stay of the order. It might be cathartic for some of you but long term it is a win for him politically. Second I am not even sure this will go to the Supreme Court...the approach hasn't been decided and the smarter play might just to be to rewrite the EO which he can easily do. The odds are if they go to the Supreme Court they will wait until after the Gorsuch confirmation which increases the likelihood of the stay being overturned. You have to realize that even liberal legal minds who do not like the EO recognize the wrongheadedness of the Ninth Circuit Decision. Troll away if you like but it leads the #resistance into a dead end. The emotional need to have Trump stopped on any subject is getting the better of all of you.
I agree the smart play is to re-write the order. However he will still face a challenge because of the tweets he has made that are rooted in anti-Muslim rhetoric. They are admissable. Now if he waits for Gorsuch to be approved (which will be no short process) that torpedoes his argument about why he had to act so fast... bad hombres pouring in and such. Not sure how he squares those arguments.
He squares that with a new EO. Can proceed down both tracks at the same time. The part about the admissibility of campaign statements is highly questionable however and I can't imagine that standing up to further scrutiny.
I am reading that the great border WALL will cost more than the government originally thought, but I have not gotten involved in the design or negotiations yet. When I do, just like with the F-35 FighterJet or the Air Force One Program, price will come WAY DOWN! Melania and I are hosting Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Mrs. Abe at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla. They are a wonderful couple!
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.
the link in the quote? please. something with a little more impartiality. what was the methodology. sample size. questions asked. etc....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.
the link in the quote? please. something with a little more impartiality. what was the methodology. sample size. questions asked. etc....
ok. I see what you referenced. they were clear i statingvregistered voters. but didnt say those that actually voted this cycle..... just sayin.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I am reading that the great border WALL will cost more than the government originally thought, but I have not gotten involved in the design or negotiations yet. When I do, just like with the F-35 FighterJet or the Air Force One Program, price will come WAY DOWN! Melania and I are hosting Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Mrs. Abe at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla. They are a wonderful couple!
Why do we care how much it costs when we aren't the ones paying for it?
Which is a great quote to use. So do you believe Pence when he alluded to Trump supporters that Hillary said this as as men lay dying in the embassy or do you know the actual truth of when she said it? Serious question.
Yes that was her answer when she was dodging Ron Johnson's questions about what happened at the embassy in Benghazi. https://youtu.be/NNZkYuRY1xI
Donald Trump was my last choice during the primaries. But it was him or this woman. And if you are worried about sex offenders, Check out Bill's wild past. Alright see I'm just going to piss you off more.
Bill wasn't a nominee though. I really still cannot fathom how someone can look at Trump now, see how he's been since taking office, and keep thinking they chose the better person. It literally seems impossible to me that anyone is thinking Trump is a better option than Clinton no matter how much you might dislike her or how much false outrage one might feel about Benghazi or emails. Are you saying that is still your position? Even now? I'm not going to jump down your throat, I am just curious to know how you mihjt still justify that position now, with the complete shit show we're witnessing with Trump. I would expect "reasonable" Trump voters (voting for a sexual predator still befuddles me in any case) to be expressing regret at this point.
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We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.
the link in the quote? please. something with a little more impartiality. what was the methodology. sample size. questions asked. etc....
ok. I see what you referenced. they were clear i statingvregistered voters. but didnt say those that actually voted this cycle..... just sayin.
You're not sayin much. You are under a false assumption that there is a number of voters who stayed home that are now just itching to get back out and vote. History does not bare that out. Second the current politics of #resistance is far more in the President's favour.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
source for your assertion "a majority of voters" agree with this?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
Check the morning consult poll I linked to above. He's over 50% on the EO.
the link in the quote? please. something with a little more impartiality. what was the methodology. sample size. questions asked. etc....
ok. I see what you referenced. they were clear i statingvregistered voters. but didnt say those that actually voted this cycle..... just sayin.
You're not sayin much. You are under a false assumption that there is a number of voters who stayed home that are now just itching to get back out and vote. History does not bare that out. Second the current politics of #resistance is far more in the President's favour.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
I get your point on him "hating to lose" but I am explaining the reality to you that he doesn't actually "lose" with the stay of the order. It might be cathartic for some of you but long term it is a win for him politically. Second I am not even sure this will go to the Supreme Court...the approach hasn't been decided and the smarter play might just to be to rewrite the EO which he can easily do. The odds are if they go to the Supreme Court they will wait until after the Gorsuch confirmation which increases the likelihood of the stay being overturned. You have to realize that even liberal legal minds who do not like the EO recognize the wrongheadedness of the Ninth Circuit Decision. Troll away if you like but it leads the #resistance into a dead end. The emotional need to have Trump stopped on any subject is getting the better of all of you.
It wouldn't matter which GOP candidate won the nomination, and then the presidency. The simple and overlooked fact is that most of the United States, like it or lump it rejected the path we were on. Yes Hillary won the popular vote. But just look at the county by county national map. A blue dot here and there. But most of it is bright red. Look at the States that flipped red. Wisconsin has been consistently blue since Regan. Not anymore. Do you think the radical left would have been any kinder to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz? No it's not Donald Trump who they all despise. He just happens to be the president. What they despise is conservatism.
We all have to be sure we call this a defeat... the news needs to position it as such. That will really irk him.
What a hilarious post. Politically he wins on this no matter what. All that was defeated was a temporary 90 day travel ban that a majority of voters agrees with. Now the Democratic party has to run against tougher security measures and in support of a ridiculous court ruling that will clearly be overturned. Trump and the GOP can continue to run on judges and security which is a winner year after year. Lastly in a crazy turn of events a Ninth Circuit Judge has just requested an en banc review of the ruling by the entire court. This isn't the administration requesting a review but a Ninth Circuit judge him/herself. This shows concern of the weakness of their position and concern about legislation to break up the Ninth Circuit which has been discussed for years. The hysteria of the left continues to cloud the big picture and the Democrats would be insane to make opposition to the EO part of their platform. It is a massive loser.
Negative. You're missing my point. Trump hates to lose. I'm talking about trolling his dumb ass.
And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
I get your point on him "hating to lose" but I am explaining the reality to you that he doesn't actually "lose" with the stay of the order. It might be cathartic for some of you but long term it is a win for him politically. Second I am not even sure this will go to the Supreme Court...the approach hasn't been decided and the smarter play might just to be to rewrite the EO which he can easily do. The odds are if they go to the Supreme Court they will wait until after the Gorsuch confirmation which increases the likelihood of the stay being overturned. You have to realize that even liberal legal minds who do not like the EO recognize the wrongheadedness of the Ninth Circuit Decision. Troll away if you like but it leads the #resistance into a dead end. The emotional need to have Trump stopped on any subject is getting the better of all of you.
It wouldn't matter which GOP candidate won the nomination, and then the presidency. The simple and overlooked fact is that most of the United States, like it or lump it rejected the path we were on. Yes Hillary won the popular vote. But just look at the county by county national map. A blue dot here and there. But most of it is bright red. Look at the States that flipped red. Wisconsin has been consistently blue since Regan. Not anymore. Do you think the radical left would have been any kinder to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz? No it's not Donald Trump who they all despise. He just happens to be the president. What they despise is conservatism.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/10/ninth-circuit-court-now-demands-it-be-protected-from-itself/
What, again, exactly was the result of the Benghazi investigations?
"Lock her up!"
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At this point, there’s really no other way to say this, so I’ll be blunt: To be someone who supports Donald Trump you have to be woefully naive to the point of brainwashed delusion, legitimately mentally unstable, certifiably insane, flat-out stupid, or you’re just a terrible person who agrees with his ignorance and isn’t bothered by supporting a wannabe dictator.
As I asked my friend the other day, “How many conspiracies does someone need to believe are real in order to be a Trump supporter?”
I’m not even going to get into every conspiracy or lie Trump’s said, I’m going to focus on a few things he said before the election, then the things he’s said since being sworn in.
So, to be a Trump supporter, you have to believe:
He always opposed the Iraq War like he says, despite the fact he’s on an audio recording right here saying he supported the war.
President Obama forged two different forms of his birth certificate and government agencies were part of an elaborate conspiracy to support an “illegitimate president.”
Him when he said removing Gaddafi in Libya was a “disaster,” even though he’s on a video that he recorded saying we needed to go into Libya and remove the dictator.
That he personally witnessed “thousands” of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in the streets of New Jersey, yet every media entity on the planet that was around during that time is part of an elaborate conspiracy to conceal the footage — including Fox News.
He never called climate change a hoax created by the Chinese (something he denied saying during a debate), even though the tweet of him saying that is right here.
The NFL personally sent him a letter complaining about the dates of the presidential debates, even though the league instantly denied ever doing so, and Trump never produced evidence of the letter.
The FBI was working to help get Hillary Clinton elected, until they weren’t, but then they were — but then they weren’t.
That he only lost the popular vote because “3-5 million” people voted illegally, even though he’s yet to produce a shred of evidence to support that claim. Furthermore, for that many people to have voted illegally would have taken cooperation among thousands of people, including both Democrats and Republicans, at all levels of government — and not a single person has come forward to support his claim.
That celebrities were fighting to get invited to his inauguration, but he didn’t want them there.
That his inauguration crowd was really the largest in history, but the media is lying about it — even though that claim was also debunked on Fox News.
That there’s a massive global conspiracy by media outlets in every single country to conceal terrorist attacks from being known publicly.
Any poll, news report, or really anything negative about him is “fake.”
Russia didn’t want him elected, even though he’s the only person who benefitted from their cyber attack.
He has absolutely nothing to hide in the tax returns that he still refuses to release and has repeatedly lied about why he won’t release them.
That a man who’s been sued several thousand times, including a $25 million settlement for fraud, won’t try to use the presidency to benefit his business interests he promised to divest from, but then didn’t.
He’s going to “drain the swamp” by surrounding himself with billionaires, top donors, and Wall Street executives.
Radical conspiracy website InfoWars, a website founded by Alex Jones (you know, the guy who said Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons who smell like death and sulfur), is a well-respected and credible source of information.
Unemployment is really 42 percent and there are up to 30 million illegal immigrants — most of whom are rapists and criminals.
And the sad part is, there are many… many more I could have listed here, but I think I’ve made my point.
To be a Donald Trump supporter means you have to believe these unfounded and ridiculous conspiracies exist and there are massive coverups taking place involving scientists, the U.S. media, the global media, Republicans, Democrats, the NFL, U.S. intelligence agencies, Howard Stern, and literally tens of thousands of people from all over the world — or you know he’s a pathological liar and fraud who fabricates all this ridiculous nonsense, and you simple don’t care.
It’s one or the other.
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And the case isn't nearly as cut and dry as you might think from reading the Conservative Tree House. Yes the POTUS has broad discretion when it comes to defense but it also has to comport with immigration laws which is clearly in the purview of the legislative branch. The only 'reprieve' from that would be a specific crisis to mitigate or event to avoid. His lawyers could not make that case on appeal. The weakness of the plaintiff's case (the states) is standing. It would be a very strong case if this was brought by an actual person denied entry or by Congress.
You say it will be "clearly overturned".. so tell which of the four liberal judges is going to flip the deadlock to make it 5-3? Otherwise the 9th's decision holds.
It's pretty safe to say it was strictly political at this point and not about "truth".
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
https://morningconsult.com/2017/02/08/trump-approval-rating-slides-despite-support-travel-ban/
Now if he waits for Gorsuch to be approved (which will be no short process) that torpedoes his argument about why he had to act so fast... bad hombres pouring in and such. Not sure how he squares those arguments.
tweet back: where's Melania? is it true that she hates you?
seems implausible given he garnered less than half of those who did in fact vote, much less the additional 90+million who were eligible but didnt vote at all.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I really still cannot fathom how someone can look at Trump now, see how he's been since taking office, and keep thinking they chose the better person. It literally seems impossible to me that anyone is thinking Trump is a better option than Clinton no matter how much you might dislike her or how much false outrage one might feel about Benghazi or emails. Are you saying that is still your position? Even now? I'm not going to jump down your throat, I am just curious to know how you mihjt still justify that position now, with the complete shit show we're witnessing with Trump. I would expect "reasonable" Trump voters (voting for a sexual predator still befuddles me in any case) to be expressing regret at this point.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/11/why-democrats-cant-just-obstruct-their-way-back-into-power/?utm_term=.39861c8aaf4f
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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The simple and overlooked fact is that most of the United States, like it or lump it rejected the path we were on. Yes Hillary won the popular vote.
But just look at the county by county national map. A blue dot here and there. But most of it is bright red. Look at the States that flipped red. Wisconsin has been consistently blue since Regan. Not anymore.
Do you think the radical left would have been any kinder to Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz?
No it's not Donald Trump who they all despise. He just happens to be the president.
What they despise is conservatism.