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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    mace1229 said:

    Let's work with your definition. So like if someone would say "if you vote for him nuclear war would happen" would be a good example of a fear tactic then right? I remember seeing lots of commercials with that message a couple months ago. Do this and something bad will happen.

    Did Clinton run that ad? I didn't see that one.
    She did, and it played lots. A couple varieties of it too. Some scared people taking about how if Trump wins his finger will be on the nuke button and with his temperament we'll almost for sure be in nuclear war-I'm Hilary Clinton and I approve this message.
    One of several reasons I don't get this fear card. Google it, I'm sure it's still out there. Claiming Trump ran on fear is just plain wrong compared to the fear the left was running on. Who can top fear of nuclear war?
    Not to mention she herself described scenes of the halocaust and said this is what it will be like if Trump wins. By any definition imaginable it's a fear tactic, and far worse than any on the right used in my view.
    Maybe the halocaust wasn't that bad to some people, but it's something I'd like to avoid in my lifetime.
    Mental backflips.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    It would be funny if Dummy gets his voter fraud investigation and it backfires on him in key states.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    mace1229 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
    Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

    why do you call it the Halocaust? surely just a spelling error or is it an alternate spelling?
    So your best defense is to point out a spelling error? The ones who are still crying over an election 3 months later and blame Russia, racism, sexism and uss themselves far worse tactics than they accuse others of. You're only defense to that is pointing out a spelling error?
    Good one, you're right then.
    *edited to fix a typo
    Honestly wasn't mocking you. Thought maybe there was a reason you spelled it that way. Spelling error is ok. You are not the precedent.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,545
    edited January 2017
    Jason P said:

    It would be funny if Dummy gets his voter fraud investigation and it backfires on him in key states.

    His own lawyers said in December, when the Michigan recount camenup, that there was no evidence of voter fraud.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-attorneys-said-no-evidence-voter-fraud-2017-1
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Bentleyspop said:

    Jason P said:

    It would be funny if Dummy gets his voter fraud investigation and it backfires on him in key states.

    His own lawyers said in December, when the Michigan recount camenup, that there was no evidence of voter fraud.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-attorneys-said-no-evidence-voter-fraud-2017-1
    His lawyers only say what he tells them to say at the time. This means nothing
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mace1229 said:

    Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
    Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

    Wasn't a massive component of Trump's campaign centred around Hillary and her carelessness with matters regarding national security?

    That's fear mongering... is it not?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
    Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

    Wasn't a massive component of Trump's campaign centred around Hillary and her carelessness with matters regarding national security?

    That's fear mongering... is it not?
    This is fear mongering:

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited January 2017
    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
    Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

    Wasn't a massive component of Trump's campaign centred around Hillary and her carelessness with matters regarding national security?

    That's fear mongering... is it not?
    This is fear mongering:

    Tough to argue that lol.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    mace1229 said:

    Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
    Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

    Wasn't a massive component of Trump's campaign centred around Hillary and her carelessness with matters regarding national security?

    That's fear mongering... is it not?
    This is fear mongering:

    Tough to argue that lol.
    Hahaha
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    his supporters will ignore it. its called the bubble. nothing penetrates the bubble.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    NYC Democratic Commissioner of the Board of Elections Alan Schulkin is caught on hidden camera at a United Federation of Teachers holiday party admitting that there is widespread voter fraud in New York City.

    “Yeah, they should ask for your ID. I think there is a lot of voter fraud,” said Schulkin, who elaborated on the types of voter fraud that are taking place in New York.

    “You know, I don’t think it’s too much to ask somebody to show some kind of an ID…Like I say, people don’t realize, certain neighborhoods in particular they bus people around to vote,” said Schulkin.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    vaggar99 said:

    his supporters will ignore it. its called the bubble. nothing penetrates the bubble.

    Similar to the past 8 year bubble that was going to end the chances of a republican president/congress from ever happening again?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,835
    mace1229 said:

    josevolution said:

    mace1229 said:

    josevolution said:

    j1kotwic said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    vaggar99 said:

    who here still supports this guy? and why?

    Stupidity and racism.
    I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?



    No but it does mean you voted for the candidate who ran on , fear , bigotry, exclusión so in some ways you do align with president Bafoon !
    Could you please point out a fear tactic with a larger impact than calling anyone who didn't vote for your candidate sexist, racist, a bigot etc. that Trump and his campaign used? The left uses a much more drastic fear tactics that is repeated by the majority of posters here than anything I've seen Trump or his supporters pull. A blanket accusation for anyone who didn't vote for your candidate is worse than the so-called fear tactics some claim Trump uses.
    Pot, meet kettle.
    Ok maybe you saw a different campaign but I remember it differently!
    I asked for examples, care to give one?
    One that's worse than "if you don't vote for my guy (or gal) then your a racist, sexist, homophobe bigot."
    I have yet to see an example of the fear campaign that lead to so many voting for him.
    yelling ad nauseum about national security, stopping muslim immigration, floating the idea of a muslim registry, saying about mexican immigrants "they aren't sending their best, they are sending murderers, rapists, I'm sure some of them are good people...".

    and I'd like to see the source of your quote. I don't believe it exists.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2017
    dignin said:

    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

    So when does the bridge construction from the Mexico border straight to center city Boston begin? At least they know what bus to get on I guess...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJPOWER said:

    dignin said:

    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

    So when does the bridge construction from the Mexico border straight to center city Boston begin? At least they know what bus to get on I guess...
    I wouldn't put it past your man Trump, he is stupid enough.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,622
    PJPOWER said:

    dignin said:

    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

    So when does the bridge construction from the Mexico border straight to center city Boston begin? At least they know what bus to get on I guess...
    There's about 300 sanctuary cities. This is one reason why I'm optimistic. Naturally, trump wants to force them to comply with his demands.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dignin said:

    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

    So when does the bridge construction from the Mexico border straight to center city Boston begin? At least they know what bus to get on I guess...
    I wouldn't put it past your man Trump, he is stupid enough.

    https://youtu.be/yBaQS-DnFuw
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    dignin said:

    Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

    http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

    So when does the bridge construction from the Mexico border straight to center city Boston begin? At least they know what bus to get on I guess...
    There's about 300 sanctuary cities. This is one reason why I'm optimistic. Naturally, trump wants to force them to comply with his demands.
    Trump and his supporters are a shrinking minority, how many fights can he have and win? I share you optimism.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    PJPOWER said:

    vaggar99 said:

    his supporters will ignore it. its called the bubble. nothing penetrates the bubble.

    Similar to the past 8 year bubble that was going to end the chances of a republican president/congress from ever happening again?
    look, no one said there were just a few that live in the bubble. oh, its quite large.
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