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PJPOWER

vaggar99 said:

PJPOWER said:

vaggar99 said:

his supporters will ignore it. its called the bubble. nothing penetrates the bubble.

Similar to the past 8 year bubble that was going to end the chances of a republican president/congress from ever happening again?

look, no one said there were just a few that live in the bubble. oh, its quite large.

That's what she.....never mind.

Jason P

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Jason P said:

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

F**k me.

I just started thinking to myself. I started thinking this f**king idiot is gonna build a wall on the northern border too... and he's gonna make Canada pay for it.

F**k me.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

F**k me.

I just started thinking to myself. I started thinking this f**king idiot is gonna build a wall on the northern border too... and he's gonna make Canada pay for it.

F**k me.

let kevin o leary foot the bill.

PJPOWER

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

F**k me.

I just started thinking to myself. I started thinking this f**king idiot is gonna build a wall on the northern border too... and he's gonna make Canada pay for it.

F**k me.

Maybe he should...with all of those violent human trafficking drug mulling canook cartels and everything.
Maybe a bullet train from Juarez to Vancouver with none of those pesky "ID rules" would be a much cheaper option than a wall!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

F**k me.

I just started thinking to myself. I started thinking this f**king idiot is gonna build a wall on the northern border too... and he's gonna make Canada pay for it.

F**k me.

Maybe he should...with all of those violent human trafficking drug mulling canook cartels and everything.
Maybe a bullet train from Juarez to Vancouver with none of those pesky "ID rules" would be a much cheaper option than a wall!

There's a gawddamn maple syrup crisis in North America.

PJPOWER

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Trump threatens to cancel meeting with Mexico's president if country won't pay for wall. Was this his plan all along to get Mexico to pay? Cancel a meeting?

Why are all politicians on both sides not voicing concern? We are not even a week in and Trump has gone to Ludicrous Speed. He can't control himself.

F**k me.

I just started thinking to myself. I started thinking this f**king idiot is gonna build a wall on the northern border too... and he's gonna make Canada pay for it.

F**k me.

Maybe he should...with all of those violent human trafficking drug mulling canook cartels and everything.
Maybe a bullet train from Juarez to Vancouver with none of those pesky "ID rules" would be a much cheaper option than a wall!

There's a gawddamn maple syrup crisis in North America.

We're being Biebered again! Roll out the tanks!!!

bootlegger10

vaggar99 said:

bootlegger10 said:

vaggar99 said:

"Even if they build the wall, I will climb the wall. I bring a ladder the size of the wall, even from sticks or whatever, but I'll make it, and I'll jump over there"

So you are a proponent of no borders?

"Even if vaggar99 puts a locked door on his house I will bring a lock pick, made from shards of scrap metal or whatever, and steal his TV."

steal my tv. i don't care. you will never steal my soul

We are a country of laws. If you do not want a border, tell your Congressman to propose a law to get rid of the border. But until that time, the laws should be followed.

Jason P

McConnell, Ryan Say Congress Will Pay for Trump's $12B Border Wall

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-ryan-congress-pay-trumps-12b-border-wall/story?id=45063195

This will cost twice that at least.

vaggar99

bootlegger10 said:

vaggar99 said:

bootlegger10 said:

vaggar99 said:

"Even if they build the wall, I will climb the wall. I bring a ladder the size of the wall, even from sticks or whatever, but I'll make it, and I'll jump over there"

So you are a proponent of no borders?

"Even if vaggar99 puts a locked door on his house I will bring a lock pick, made from shards of scrap metal or whatever, and steal his TV."

steal my tv. i don't care. you will never steal my soul

We are a country of laws. If you do not want a border, tell your Congressman to propose a law to get rid of the border. But until that time, the laws should be followed.

i think the statement was more symbolic than anything. i know what the laws are. i am not for illegal immigration. but, a wall is not the solution. its physical propaganda.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

j1kotwic said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

vaggar99 said:

who here still supports this guy? and why?

Stupidity and racism.

I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?

No but it does mean you voted for the candidate who ran on , fear , bigotry, exclusión so in some ways you do align with president Bafoon !

Could you please point out a fear tactic with a larger impact than calling anyone who didn't vote for your candidate sexist, racist, a bigot etc. that Trump and his campaign used? The left uses a much more drastic fear tactics that is repeated by the majority of posters here than anything I've seen Trump or his supporters pull. A blanket accusation for anyone who didn't vote for your candidate is worse than the so-called fear tactics some claim Trump uses.
Pot, meet kettle.

Ok maybe you saw a different campaign but I remember it differently!

I asked for examples, care to give one?
One that's worse than "if you don't vote for my guy (or gal) then your a racist, sexist, homophobe bigot."
I have yet to see an example of the fear campaign that lead to so many voting for him.

Has the left ever advocated or allowed its media outlets to promote violence that resulted in the deaths of people providing legally protected services? Spare me the left is worse bullshit.

JC29856

Not that the wall is or will be constructed, that remains to be seen, but how many here scoffed at the idea Trump would actually build the wall (Im not referring to those that said Trump wouldn't be president so therefore the wall wont be built)? Raise your hands

HughFreakingDillon

JC29856 said:

Not that the wall is or will be constructed, that remains to be seen, but how many here scoffed at the idea Trump would actually build the wall (Im not referring to those that said Trump wouldn't be president so therefore the wall wont be built)? Raise your hands

*raises hand*

Cliffy6745

Um, this seems less than ideal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/

HughFreakingDillon

JC29856 said:

Not that the wall is or will be constructed, that remains to be seen, but how many here scoffed at the idea Trump would actually build the wall (Im not referring to those that said Trump wouldn't be president so therefore the wall wont be built)? Raise your hands

full disclosure: I didn't think he'd do ANY of the things he said he'd do in his campaign. I thought he was saying all that shit to get elected. or maybe I was hoping he was just all talk. the fact he's doing/attempting to do all those things is frightening.

JC29856

Cliffy6745 said:

Um, this seems less than ideal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/

Tillerson was actually inside the State Department’s headquarters in Foggy Bottom on Wednesday, taking meetings and getting the lay of the land. I reported Wednesday morning that the Trump team was narrowing its search for his No. 2 and three officials, and that it was looking to replace the State Department’s long-serving undersecretary for management, Patrick Kennedy. Kennedy, who has been in that job for nine years, was actively involved in the transition and was angling to keep that job under Tillerson, three State Department officials told me.
Then suddenly on Wednesday afternoon, Kennedy and three of his top officials resigned unexpectedly, four State Department officials confirmed. Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry O. Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions, followed him out the door.

Remember Patrick Kennedy? According to the FBI docs released he tried to change a "classified" Hillary Clinton email to "unclassified.
Another card carrying member of the "Country First Club".
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-state-department-aide-patrick-kennedy-asked-fbi-to-change-classification-of-hillary-clinton-email/


Joyce Anne Barr
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4539899/representative-trey-gowdy-questions-chief-foia-officer-joyce-barr-former-hillary-clintons

Kennedy and Bond advising Hillary and staff
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/10620

dignin

Cliffy6745 said:

Um, this seems less than ideal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/

This what draining the swamp looks like. Trump voters are going to get the government the deserve.

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Not that the wall is or will be constructed, that remains to be seen, but how many here scoffed at the idea Trump would actually build the wall (Im not referring to those that said Trump wouldn't be president so therefore the wall wont be built)? Raise your hands

full disclosure: I didn't think he'd do ANY of the things he said he'd do in his campaign. I thought he was saying all that shit to get elected. or maybe I was hoping he was just all talk. the fact he's doing/attempting to do all those things is frightening.

This from cnn is hilarious... (right wrong or otherwise) "Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do!!!"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/donald-trump-this-is-happening/

As he progressed from punchline to primary contender, from frontrunner to nominee, and then from seemingly doomed general election candidate to president-elect, Donald Trump has, for all his idiosyncrasies, offered a remarkably consistent package of promises.

Now, less than a week into his presidency, he is beginning to carry them out.
The grinding machinery of federal government has not checked his most extreme ambitions, as so many savvy observers predicted, and the weight of the office has not humbled or aroused in him some reservoir of internal reflection. Instead, much as we saw during the primary -- as defeated Republicans fell in line behind Trump only to be mocked or ignored -- power only emboldens him.

PJPOWER

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

j1kotwic said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

vaggar99 said:

who here still supports this guy? and why?

Stupidity and racism.

I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?

No but it does mean you voted for the candidate who ran on , fear , bigotry, exclusión so in some ways you do align with president Bafoon !

Could you please point out a fear tactic with a larger impact than calling anyone who didn't vote for your candidate sexist, racist, a bigot etc. that Trump and his campaign used? The left uses a much more drastic fear tactics that is repeated by the majority of posters here than anything I've seen Trump or his supporters pull. A blanket accusation for anyone who didn't vote for your candidate is worse than the so-called fear tactics some claim Trump uses.
Pot, meet kettle.

Ok maybe you saw a different campaign but I remember it differently!

I asked for examples, care to give one?
One that's worse than "if you don't vote for my guy (or gal) then your a racist, sexist, homophobe bigot."
I have yet to see an example of the fear campaign that lead to so many voting for him.

Has the left ever advocated or allowed its media outlets to promote violence that resulted in the deaths of people providing legally protected services? Spare me the left is worse bullshit.

I think that it is a much broader issue than either of you are suggesting. Violence in general has been allowed and promoted by left and right and all in-between for a long time now through various forms of violent media. There have been plenty of examples of our culture turning more and more violent and un-empathetic towards each other and I think we have been seeing the results of people growing up in a desensitizing environment for a while now...and I'm not just talking about the good ol' USA. In fact, my personal theory is that there is somewhat of an epidemiological addiction to violent media and this is being capitalized on by pretty much every media outlet out there. Media in general advocate, allow, and promote violence in for either vindictive or monetary reasons...almost makes one want to move to an island with no access to violent media to raise their children in a controlled environment...but that is of course my libertarian mumbo jumbo hogwash idealism peaking through.
http://www.apa.org/action/resources/research-in-action/protect.aspx

Cliffy6745

JC29856 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Um, this seems less than ideal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/

Tillerson was actually inside the State Department’s headquarters in Foggy Bottom on Wednesday, taking meetings and getting the lay of the land. I reported Wednesday morning that the Trump team was narrowing its search for his No. 2 and three officials, and that it was looking to replace the State Department’s long-serving undersecretary for management, Patrick Kennedy. Kennedy, who has been in that job for nine years, was actively involved in the transition and was angling to keep that job under Tillerson, three State Department officials told me.
Then suddenly on Wednesday afternoon, Kennedy and three of his top officials resigned unexpectedly, four State Department officials confirmed. Assistant Secretary of State for Administration Joyce Anne Barr, Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry O. Smith, director of the Office of Foreign Missions, followed him out the door.

Remember Patrick Kennedy? According to the FBI docs released he tried to change a "classified" Hillary Clinton email to "unclassified.
Another card carrying member of the "Country First Club".
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-state-department-aide-patrick-kennedy-asked-fbi-to-change-classification-of-hillary-clinton-email/


Joyce Anne Barr
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4539899/representative-trey-gowdy-questions-chief-foia-officer-joyce-barr-former-hillary-clintons

Kennedy and Bond advising Hillary and staff
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/10620

You mean to tell me that members of the state department advised their boss?!?!?!?!?!??! The travesty!