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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    Nothing there BS, except your BS.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017
    let me put it this way... when Donald J Trump says the Russia stories are "fake news".... like he did today apparently... I know they are 100% true
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    apparently I missed a 75 minute manic meltdown labeled as a press conference?

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017
    Definition of "Owned" is below...


    NBC reporter Peter Alexander corrected President Donald Trump during a press conference Thursday after the president again made a false claim about his Electoral College victory margin.

    The press conference was called to tout the president’s choice of attorney Alexander Acosta for the role of labor secretary, but it devolved into a meandering tirade against the press. Russia dominated the questions, but Trump also found a way to brag about his victory over Hillary Clinton, falsely claiming the margin, 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232, was the biggest since Ronald Reagan’s 1984 win. In fact, Barack Obama won more electoral votes in 2008, and George H.W. Bush won more in 1988.

    Alexander, a correspondent for NBC News, sought to correct Trump on those figures, and pressed him to explain how he could call reporting by outlets like The New York Times and CNN “fake news” while using inaccurate figures himself.

    “Why should Americans trust you?” asked Alexander.

    “I was given that information,” Trump said, cutting Alexander off. “I don’t know. I was just given it. We had a very, very big margin.”

    “Why should Americans trust you when you accuse the information they receive of being fake, when you provide information that’s not accurate?” Alexander asked.

    “I was given that information,” said Trump. “Actually, I’ve seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory. Do you agree with that?”

    “You’re the president,” Alexander replied.

    Trump has repeatedly described his victory over Clinton as a “historic” and “massive” landslide. That’s not the case. His Electoral College victory actually ranks 46th out of 56 presidential elections. He lost the popular vote to Clinton by about 2.8 million votes.

    Despite repeated debunkings, Trump continues to make false claims about the election. On Wednesday, he responded to a question about the rise of anti-Semitism by bragging about his win.

    “Well, I just want to say that we are, you know, very honored by the victory that we had: 306 Electoral College votes,” Trump said Wednesday. “We were not supposed to crack 220. You know that, right? There was no way to 221, but then they said there’s no way to 270.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-electoral-college-claim_us_58a5f184e4b045cd34bfa8e9
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    It is so crazy how he thinks he doesn't come of as a complete idiot at all his press conferences, lol, and keeps doing it. He isn't learning any lessons at all. It's pretty delusional.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    PJ_Soul said:

    It is so crazy how he thinks he doesn't come of as a complete idiot at all his press conferences, lol, and keeps doing it. He isn't learning any lessons at all. It's pretty delusional.

    I know & I often think the same thing. I'd imagine that his advisors have told him to tone it down & actually appear presidential, but he can't help himself. He has a very hard time even putting together a sentence.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited February 2017
    mfc2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It is so crazy how he thinks he doesn't come of as a complete idiot at all his press conferences, lol, and keeps doing it. He isn't learning any lessons at all. It's pretty delusional.

    I know & I often think the same thing. I'd imagine that his advisors have told him to tone it down & actually appear presidential, but he can't help himself. He has a very hard time even putting together a sentence.
    that's because 90% of posters here on AMT know more than this bafoon

    anybody that thinks this guy should be anywhere near the oval office is just plain stooped in my opinion

    its embarrassing

  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    my2hands said:

    if you guys don't think Trump isnt compromised or bought by Putin then I've got a bridge to sell you lol

    call me crazy but I have $20 that says everything in the Golden Showers Dossier is accurate... and every single intelligence agency has stated that the Russians interfered with our election, while treasonous Trump cheered them on

    thankfully some investigative journalists and members of the intelligence community aren't as gullible as some Americans

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited February 2017
    This real psychiatrist would have a field day with all the amatuers on here.
    Allen Frances says he's tired of "amateur diagnosticians" insisting that U.S. President Donald Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. In a letter to the New York Times, Frances, a retired Duke University professor, wrote that Trump "may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn't make him mentally ill, because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder."
    I'm so tired of amatuer analyses of Trump's psychology or diagnosis.
    He was responding to another letter to the Times — signed by 35 psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers — declaring Trump mentally unfit for the job of commander-in-chief. In doing so, they were flouting a longstanding American Psychiatric Association ethical policy barring mental health professionals diagnosing public figures from a distance. 
    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-wednesday-edition-1.3984065/stop-saying-trump-has-narcissistic-personality-disorder-says-psychiatrist-who-defined-it-1.3984073
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    edited February 2017
    Narcissistic personality disorder isn't considered a mental illness, so I don't know wtf that guy is spazzing about. I'm sure the 36 other psychiatrists who signed that letter would have a field day telling the one guy who doesn't want people calling Trump mentally unfit for the job that he is off the mark (like any reasonable person needed a bunch of psychiatrists to confirm that Trump is mentally unfit for the job, lol. I mean, really).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    BS44325 said:

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    mrussel1 said:

    Illegal or not, the information is true. By definition, a leak is true.

    exactly. the very founding of this country was pushback against power. what is a leak other than pushback?
    If that is the case than why so mad if Trump colluded with Russia to leak the Hillary campaign's emails? Just pushback, you know, the foundation of this country?
    colluding with an adversarial foreign power in the electoral process is a lot different than leaking pertinent info on corruptable power. And in the early stages of this particular administration, its a civic obligation imo.
    Hillary was a corruptable power. The FBI was giving everybody the heads-up. It was just pushback.
    still not the same ballpark. at all. preventing corruptable power so corruptable power can take office? stop insulting my intelligence.

    props to the deftness of your PM the other day btw.
    The only thing that has been suggested to be corruptable right now is Flynn post-lie to Pence. I'm not sure how that's worse then the known corruptable power that was Hillary. Not the same ballpark. At all.

    In terms of my PM...Yeah. I don't like him but he played it right.
    its emerging that Flynn wasnt the only one of the team. and now we're talking about well before election day. and given his continued deflections in regards to russia's exertion of influence, it suggests to me something involving him directly.
    Actually none of that is emerging.
    True. The Paul Manafort and Roger Stone connection emerged long ago. Another player is emerging and they all are connected by Mr. Trump.
    But seriously BS, you can't really believe that Trump was unaware or disconnected from all of these Russian issues. His own words throughout the campaign and during the first weeks of his presidency make it quite obvious.
    To date there is no evidence of wrongdoing. By anyone. Communications are not a crime. Could something else arise? Certainly but so far there is just nothing.

    Let's all remember that when Bush was negotiating with Iran in 2008 Obama sent Ambassador William Miller to meet with Iran and let them know that he will be "friendlier" to them. That meeting pretty much sabotaged Bush and nobody made a peep.

    Has anything Trump or his people have done even approached that level of interference? I don't think so.
    Because 26 days into a new administration, you have a high profile resignation that was preceded by two previous high level resignations, a cabinet level nominee withdraw from consideration and 4 national security/law enforcement agencies beginning investigations as well as both republican and democrat members of congress, specifically members of the intelligence committees, and not back bencher amateurs like Tom "I'm a Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton." Because this is how most newly elected administrations get off the ground. Brilliant!!

    A whole lot of nothing? You mean like Hillary's emails? Or did you mean the Clinton Foundation? Or nothing like Comet Pizza?
    Why don't you go back and see how many of Obama's team withdrew and/or had to be pushed out in the early stages. Daschle, Richardson, Gregg, Jones, Zinni...there are others. Did any of those withdrawals represent the collapse of his administration? Do your homework please.
    How many law enforcement or intelligence agencies opened investigations of the Obama administration in the first 26 days?
    How many have opened one now? I haven't seen an actual list. All I have seen is that the FBI has cleared everybody.
    CIA, NSA and Treasury's Financial Crimes Unit. Ongoing investigations and unlike Comey, they're not commenting on ongoing investigations. Comey's actions alone make the FBI suspect but I'll bet there are some rogue agents leaking, as opposed to taking leaks.
    The CIA and NSA don't do investigations...they collect intelligence and they need a court to gather this intelligence when it comes to American citizens. This intelligence can be handed over to investigating agencies under certain circumstances. I haven't seen a report anywhere that the Treasury's Financial Crimes Unit is investigating anything. I think you're making shit up again. You are the Comet Pizza guy.
    Wrong again professor. Americans can become targets if the initial target, a foreigner on foreign soil, Russian Ambassador, is talking to an American, Flynn.

    In 2011, the Obama Administration secretly won permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases. The searches take place under a surveillance program Congress authorized in 2008 under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Under that law, the target must be a foreigner “reasonably believed” to be outside the United States, and the court must approve the targeting procedures in an order good for one year. But a warrant for each target would thus no longer be required. That means that communications with Americans could be picked up without a court first determining that there is probable cause that the people they were talking to were terrorists, spies or “foreign powers.” The FISC also extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years with an extension possible for foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purposes. Both measures were done without public debate or any specific authority from Congress.[13]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court

    And the intelligence agencies do conduct investigations, What they don't do is file charges. That gets turned over to the FBI. So, who else close to Trump spoke with the Russians? I'm willing to bet they have his sons and son-in-law on tape. I'm also willing to bet there's going to be quid pro quo. What did they discuss? And it was a year before the election. But sure, nothing to see here.

    Russian spy ship off the coast of Groton, CT., Russian fighter aircraft buzzing US warships and Russian outreach to Iran and yet nary a peep from Trump. And you don't find any of this concerning? But Hillary's emails! What was that about Comet Pizza?

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    edited February 2017
    For every one person who thought Trump was a ridiculous circus act today, it still doesn't matter to his supporters.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trump-delivers-a-series-of-raw-and-wild-attacks-on-the-media-in-a-press-conference-for-the-ages/?utm_term=.f36cb3814821
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    You know what Uranium is, right?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    This real psychiatrist would have a field day with all the amatuers on here.
    Allen Frances says he's tired of "amateur diagnosticians" insisting that U.S. President Donald Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. In a letter to the New York Times, Frances, a retired Duke University professor, wrote that Trump "may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn't make him mentally ill, because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder."
    I'm so tired of amatuer analyses of Trump's psychology or diagnosis.
    He was responding to another letter to the Times — signed by 35 psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers — declaring Trump mentally unfit for the job of commander-in-chief. In doing so, they were flouting a longstanding American Psychiatric Association ethical policy barring mental health professionals diagnosing public figures from a distance. 
    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-wednesday-edition-1.3984065/stop-saying-trump-has-narcissistic-personality-disorder-says-psychiatrist-who-defined-it-1.3984073

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  • CM189191
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Narcissistic personality disorder isn't considered a mental illness, so I don't know wtf that guy is spazzing about. I'm sure the 36 other psychiatrists who signed that letter would have a field day telling the one guy who doesn't want people calling Trump mentally unfit for the job that he is off the mark (like any reasonable person needed a bunch of psychiatrists to confirm that Trump is mentally unfit for the job, lol. I mean, really).

    My money's on Alzheimer's
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,538
    He actually does suffer from the impairment and distress. The White House chaos is one manifestation of this.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    Go Beavers said:

    He actually does suffer from the impairment and distress. The White House chaos is one manifestation of this.

    That is totally true.
    Everyone should stop underestimating just how fucked up the guy is.
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  • Kat
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    I tried to think of a comment for posting this link but I'm left almost speechless.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-reporter-black-caucus_us_58a5fe71e4b037d17d25f1cb?unbcupe55q93323xr&

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,538
    PJ_Soul said:

    Go Beavers said:

    He actually does suffer from the impairment and distress. The White House chaos is one manifestation of this.

    That is totally true.
    Everyone should stop underestimating just how fucked up the guy is.
    Not to mention the divorces, bankruptcies, and sex offending. PJsoul's link raises a valid point about diagnosis of mental disorders, in that it needs to create distress and disruption in the person's life. I imagine they're thinking if he can be president, then it's not disruptive. The problem with that is the only reason he doesn't check that box for the professor is because trump has been able to avoid consequences because of his money, fame, and power. Without those three, he would probably be in prison and there would be no question of the diagnosis with any professional. I'm guessing trump has a host of physical problems due to his emotional state, as well as drug abuse. If trump came to someone's office seeking treatment and spoke openly, the NPD diagnosis would be a slam dunk.
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