Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
There are theories and there are facts. The facts will come out, to light if you will, in due time. My theory is that Trump and his ilk are afraid of the facts. Just my theory.
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
There are theories and there are facts. The facts will come out, to light if you will, in due time. My theory is that Trump and his ilk are afraid of the facts. Just my theory.
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
It's a multifaceted campaign designed to overwhelm the American public and news cycles...it's some next level shit. It's like moving all your chess pieces at once...
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
Why don't we discuss what we do know as fact, professor? Fact, Flynn resigned for not discussing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the VP. Fact, Sessions recused himself from any further involvement in any investigation of Trump ilk and Putin ilk communicating or colluding to influence the outcome of the election. Fact, Sessions lied to congress during his confirmation hearings. Fact, 17 US investigative agencies are in agreement that Russian ilk hacked and subsequently released Hillary and podesta emails. Fact, an increasing number of republicans and democrats are calling for an independent counsel to investigate the alleged ties between Trump campaign ilk and Putin ilk. Fact, Paul Manafort, trumps campaign head, resigned after it was made known that he had contact with Russian ilk. Fact, the RNC changed their platform to more favorable pro Russian stance regarding Ukraine and Crimea. Fact, three days later the podesta emails were released by Wikileaks. Fact, a Russian oligarch is under indictment and fighting extradition to the US to face charges in federal court. An oligarch with ties to Trump campaign ilk. Fact, another Russian oligarch bought a $200 million property from Trump in Palm Beach. Fact, that oligarch's plane has been spotted at many of the same airports during Trump's campaign stops. Fact, trump's son is on film bragging about "Russian money pouring in" in 2008. Fact, Paul manafort's name is listed in a ledger seized from the palace of the deposed pro Russian Ukrainian dictator as having been paid $127,000. Fact, Rex tillerson as CEO of Exxon, now SoS, worked on large oil deals running through Russia and Crimea. Fact, four US investigative agencies are currently investigating ties between Russian ilk and Trump campaign ilk. Fact, Trump hasn't released his tax returns. Fact, trump has repeatedly lied about his connections to Putin and/or Russia in public statements. Fact, US banks stopped loaning money to Trump in 2002. Fact, Putin is a nice guy.
Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
He graduated from bafoon university in sure a lot of immigrants that were shackled and brought here without their consent were all thinking hey guess what we're headed to America the land of dreams & opportunities ! What an idiot ..
He graduated from bafoon university in sure a lot of immigrants that were shackled and brought here without their consent were all thinking hey guess what we're headed to America the land of dreams & opportunities ! What an idiot ..
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
Why don't we discuss what we do know as fact, professor? Fact, Flynn resigned for not discussing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the VP. Fact, Sessions recused himself from any further involvement in any investigation of Trump ilk and Putin ilk communicating or colluding to influence the outcome of the election. Fact, Sessions lied to congress during his confirmation hearings. Fact, 17 US investigative agencies are in agreement that Russian ilk hacked and subsequently released Hillary and podesta emails. Fact, an increasing number of republicans and democrats are calling for an independent counsel to investigate the alleged ties between Trump campaign ilk and Putin ilk. Fact, Paul Manafort, trumps campaign head, resigned after it was made known that he had contact with Russian ilk. Fact, the RNC changed their platform to more favorable pro Russian stance regarding Ukraine and Crimea. Fact, three days later the podesta emails were released by Wikileaks. Fact, a Russian oligarch is under indictment and fighting extradition to the US to face charges in federal court. An oligarch with ties to Trump campaign ilk. Fact, another Russian oligarch bought a $200 million property from Trump in Palm Beach. Fact, that oligarch's plane has been spotted at many of the same airports during Trump's campaign stops. Fact, trump's son is on film bragging about "Russian money pouring in" in 2008. Fact, Paul manafort's name is listed in a ledger seized from the palace of the deposed pro Russian Ukrainian dictator as having been paid $127,000. Fact, Rex tillerson as CEO of Exxon, now SoS, worked on large oil deals running through Russia and Crimea. Fact, four US investigative agencies are currently investigating ties between Russian ilk and Trump campaign ilk. Fact, Trump hasn't released his tax returns. Fact, trump has repeatedly lied about his connections to Putin and/or Russia in public statements. Fact, US banks stopped loaning money to Trump in 2002. Fact, Putin is a nice guy.
Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
Why don't we discuss what we do know as fact, professor? Fact, Flynn resigned for not discussing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the VP. Fact, Sessions recused himself from any further involvement in any investigation of Trump ilk and Putin ilk communicating or colluding to influence the outcome of the election. Fact, Sessions lied to congress during his confirmation hearings. Fact, 17 US investigative agencies are in agreement that Russian ilk hacked and subsequently released Hillary and podesta emails. Fact, an increasing number of republicans and democrats are calling for an independent counsel to investigate the alleged ties between Trump campaign ilk and Putin ilk. Fact, Paul Manafort, trumps campaign head, resigned after it was made known that he had contact with Russian ilk. Fact, the RNC changed their platform to more favorable pro Russian stance regarding Ukraine and Crimea. Fact, three days later the podesta emails were released by Wikileaks. Fact, a Russian oligarch is under indictment and fighting extradition to the US to face charges in federal court. An oligarch with ties to Trump campaign ilk. Fact, another Russian oligarch bought a $200 million property from Trump in Palm Beach. Fact, that oligarch's plane has been spotted at many of the same airports during Trump's campaign stops. Fact, trump's son is on film bragging about "Russian money pouring in" in 2008. Fact, Paul manafort's name is listed in a ledger seized from the palace of the deposed pro Russian Ukrainian dictator as having been paid $127,000. Fact, Rex tillerson as CEO of Exxon, now SoS, worked on large oil deals running through Russia and Crimea. Fact, four US investigative agencies are currently investigating ties between Russian ilk and Trump campaign ilk. Fact, Trump hasn't released his tax returns. Fact, trump has repeatedly lied about his connections to Putin and/or Russia in public statements. Fact, US banks stopped loaning money to Trump in 2002. Fact, Putin is a nice guy.
Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
Why don't we discuss what we do know as fact, professor? Fact, Flynn resigned for not discussing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the VP. Fact, Sessions recused himself from any further involvement in any investigation of Trump ilk and Putin ilk communicating or colluding to influence the outcome of the election. Fact, Sessions lied to congress during his confirmation hearings. Fact, 17 US investigative agencies are in agreement that Russian ilk hacked and subsequently released Hillary and podesta emails. Fact, an increasing number of republicans and democrats are calling for an independent counsel to investigate the alleged ties between Trump campaign ilk and Putin ilk. Fact, Paul Manafort, trumps campaign head, resigned after it was made known that he had contact with Russian ilk. Fact, the RNC changed their platform to more favorable pro Russian stance regarding Ukraine and Crimea. Fact, three days later the podesta emails were released by Wikileaks. Fact, a Russian oligarch is under indictment and fighting extradition to the US to face charges in federal court. An oligarch with ties to Trump campaign ilk. Fact, another Russian oligarch bought a $200 million property from Trump in Palm Beach. Fact, that oligarch's plane has been spotted at many of the same airports during Trump's campaign stops. Fact, trump's son is on film bragging about "Russian money pouring in" in 2008. Fact, Paul manafort's name is listed in a ledger seized from the palace of the deposed pro Russian Ukrainian dictator as having been paid $127,000. Fact, Rex tillerson as CEO of Exxon, now SoS, worked on large oil deals running through Russia and Crimea. Fact, four US investigative agencies are currently investigating ties between Russian ilk and Trump campaign ilk. Fact, Trump hasn't released his tax returns. Fact, trump has repeatedly lied about his connections to Putin and/or Russia in public statements. Fact, US banks stopped loaning money to Trump in 2002. Fact, Putin is a nice guy.
Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
Fact, you make up a lot of facts.
None of those are made up. It's all dialed in nicely in that summary.
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
I love watching all these conservative hawks become Russian/Putin sympathizers
Selling their souls for the bafoon and their political agenda.
LOL
Which ones?
Which ones aren't is the shorter and easier answer. At least a couple took issue with trump responding to the notion that Putin kills people by saying the US isn't innocent either.
Listen.. that was all very interesting and speculative by nature, but it's really stretches the bounds of reality. Half of the analysis says there may not have been a FISA warrant because they were tapping the Russian banks. The other half of the analysis assumes there was a FISA warrant, as he points to the Guardian as validation (which focused on FISA). Which is it? It can't be both and the assessment be correct.
Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
Of course it's speculative. Everything anybody has written or reported has been speculative. It is actually amazing how little anybody really knows both on the Russia angle and/or the Spying angle. Was there even a FISA request? I used to think there was for sure but now I don't know. The New York Times on January 20th specifically mentioned "Wiretapped Data" in their headline and now they are refuting themselves. The article above at least discusses the NSA collection aspect to it all where in theory the data already pre-existed and then was mined/shared either legitimately or illegitimately. The key point is how the late stage Loretta Lynch rule change opened up this data to a wider range of agencies then normally would be possible. I'm also with you on the legalities though...this gets into areas that none of us are experts on. Except for Halifax of course.
Why don't we discuss what we do know as fact, professor? Fact, Flynn resigned for not discussing his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the VP. Fact, Sessions recused himself from any further involvement in any investigation of Trump ilk and Putin ilk communicating or colluding to influence the outcome of the election. Fact, Sessions lied to congress during his confirmation hearings. Fact, 17 US investigative agencies are in agreement that Russian ilk hacked and subsequently released Hillary and podesta emails. Fact, an increasing number of republicans and democrats are calling for an independent counsel to investigate the alleged ties between Trump campaign ilk and Putin ilk. Fact, Paul Manafort, trumps campaign head, resigned after it was made known that he had contact with Russian ilk. Fact, the RNC changed their platform to more favorable pro Russian stance regarding Ukraine and Crimea. Fact, three days later the podesta emails were released by Wikileaks. Fact, a Russian oligarch is under indictment and fighting extradition to the US to face charges in federal court. An oligarch with ties to Trump campaign ilk. Fact, another Russian oligarch bought a $200 million property from Trump in Palm Beach. Fact, that oligarch's plane has been spotted at many of the same airports during Trump's campaign stops. Fact, trump's son is on film bragging about "Russian money pouring in" in 2008. Fact, Paul manafort's name is listed in a ledger seized from the palace of the deposed pro Russian Ukrainian dictator as having been paid $127,000. Fact, Rex tillerson as CEO of Exxon, now SoS, worked on large oil deals running through Russia and Crimea. Fact, four US investigative agencies are currently investigating ties between Russian ilk and Trump campaign ilk. Fact, Trump hasn't released his tax returns. Fact, trump has repeatedly lied about his connections to Putin and/or Russia in public statements. Fact, US banks stopped loaning money to Trump in 2002. Fact, Putin is a nice guy.
Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
BS doesn't deal in facts. He deals in spin, supposition, theories and neocon revisionist history. It's okay as he'll be proven wrong, again, when Trump is removed, kicking and screaming like a petulant child, from the White House. Afterall, BS believes Trump is, "brilliant."
I love watching all these conservative hawks become Russian/Putin sympathizers
Selling their souls for the bafoon and their political agenda.
LOL
Which ones?
Which ones aren't is the shorter and easier answer. At least a couple took issue with trump responding to the notion that Putin kills people by saying the US isn't innocent either.
Most took issue with that statement...not a couple. Also Trump has appointed Russian hawks into top positions if you haven't noticed
BS doesn't deal in facts. He deals in spin, supposition, theories and neocon revisionist history. It's okay as he'll be proven wrong, again, when Trump is removed, kicking and screaming like a petulant child, from the White House. Afterall, BS believes Trump is, "brilliant."
Proven wrong again? I haven't been proven wrong yet.
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
Chose to return to their country of origin?!?
You are aware that slavery didn't just last like fifty years, right? It was generations born into slavery. In the end, they probably didn't even know their ancestors country of origin. What an asinine post.
I love watching all these conservative hawks become Russian/Putin sympathizers
Selling their souls for the bafoon and their political agenda.
LOL
Which ones?
Which ones aren't is the shorter and easier answer. At least a couple took issue with trump responding to the notion that Putin kills people by saying the US isn't innocent either.
Most took issue with that statement...not a couple. Also Trump has appointed Russian hawks into top positions if you haven't noticed
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
Chose to return to their country of origin?!?
You are aware that slavery didn't just last like fifty years, right? It was generations born into slavery. In the end, they probably didn't even know their ancestors country of origin. What an asinine post.
Carson is talking about the original slaves. Read the quote. Again...what is offensive about his post. Slaves were brought against their will but regardless should have been entitled to the same rights of all other men and women. That makes them immigrants even if it not by their own choosing. It is the questioning of his statement that is assinine.
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Second, if they collected the data/metadata/ because the NSA was really tapping the Russian banks and therefore didn't need the FISA warrant (I'm not even sure that's legally true), then it means there really was a server connected to Russia in Trump Tower, which Trump denied being true.
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Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730
“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Lol
It's like moving all your chess pieces at once...
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Now, professor? Would you like to discuss facts or theories? And here I thought you enjoyed connecting the dots but I guess if it only involves pizza?
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeach Trump.
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Selling their souls for the bafoon and their political agenda.
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Link contains a tweet with a swear word.
Which facts did I make up, professor?
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You are aware that slavery didn't just last like fifty years, right? It was generations born into slavery. In the end, they probably didn't even know their ancestors country of origin. What an asinine post.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
And I see where three senators had issue with trump's putin/America killer comment. Yes, that's more than a couple.