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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

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    Merkin Baller said:
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    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    It has died down. 50 pages and not a single new detail. Just because you won't stop talking about it doesn't mean you are any further ahead. I don't doubt you will still be talking about it for years to come.
    Trump firing the head of the FBI who's also investigating him is a pretty big detail, but keep spinning Holden. 
    To you as well... Please site evidence that the head of the FBI is investigating Trump.
    Well, McCabe did say that the Trump-Russia investigation is a "highly significant" investigation currently underway. He's the head of the FBI currently, so probably knows a thing or two about what's going on there.
    Read my post above... I am waiting for a transcript but I don't believe the phrase "Trump-Russia" investigation was used. People are quoting a random tweet. There is an investigation on Russian interference and wherever that may lead. The phrase "Trump-Russia" was not said. There is no evidence on "Trump-Russia". Just Russia.

    “I’ve been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” Comey said in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee. “That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”
    Exactly "any links" and "whether". That doesn't mean "any links" were found or "whether" there was any coordination. It's an open investigation that to date from what we know had produced nothing on the Trump front.
    Flynn's lying to Pence about his contacts with Russians, AG Sessions recusing himself and Chavfetz resigning as chair doesn't meet your definition of "any links" or "whether?"

    yup, delusional. I laughed at the Maxine typo BTW. Pretty funny.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    Manafort's and the other campaign/transition hacks that resigned in disgrace don't meet your definition of "links?" @BS. I suppose they resigned because of the brilliance? The coverup is usually greater than the crime.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    H2TM - what charge relating to Trump's alleged collusion with Russia do you suspect will lead to impeachment? Is it the fact that Trump solicited assistance? Is it the fact that Russia slandered Clinton's name? The access to emails? The distribution of said emails, exposing unsavoury truths? 

    On on another note, you keep using your lovely Russia catchphrase and mocking the use of the word "brilliant", which BS mentioned far fewer than you have, but you yourself keep saying "just wait", when the fact is that a subpoena only validates with any certainty that there's smoke, not fire. To claim otherwise is literally fake news, much as I'd love for you to be right. 

    There has been literally no articulation of a Russia-based direct path to impeachment. The other avenues could be in the discovery phases of legal, but the deafening silence doesn't leave me too confident. 

    Again, I'd love to be proven wrong. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605

    benjs said:
    H2TM - what charge relating to Trump's alleged collusion with Russia do you suspect will lead to impeachment? Is it the fact that Trump solicited assistance? Is it the fact that Russia slandered Clinton's name? The access to emails? The distribution of said emails, exposing unsavoury truths? 

    On on another note, you keep using your lovely Russia catchphrase and mocking the use of the word "brilliant", which BS mentioned far fewer than you have, but you yourself keep saying "just wait", when the fact is that a subpoena only validates with any certainty that there's smoke, not fire. To claim otherwise is literally fake news, much as I'd love for you to be right. 

    There has been literally no articulation of a Russia-based direct path to impeachment. The other avenues could be in the discovery phases of legal, but the deafening silence doesn't leave me too confident. 

    Again, I'd love to be proven wrong. 
    Knowingly colluding with a foreign power, Russia, to influence an election to get elected in a quid pro quo, money laundering of illicit Russian assets for personal gain and accepting foreign money from Russia to finance his campaign.


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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    I doubt this will satisfy the critics



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    Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    Yeah that is typical Trump idiocy.
    He pays his lawyers to say he has no Russian connections.
    A law firm who has won awards for best Russian lawyers (or something) for all their Russian ties.
    Dig upwards Donnie.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    I would not trust Willie Nelson when it comes to tax advice
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    I love the term "likely." And aren't tax returns filed based on what is reported by the filee and not necessarily what is actual or factual? Because no one has ever cheated on their taxes before, ever. And there in is why Trump should release his full tax returns, like Hillary Clinton did as well as all previous presidential candidates since they voluntarily began doing so. Nothing to see here, headlines will be fading from the front pages any day now. Its resolved.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    CM189191 said:
    I would not trust Willie Nelson when it comes to tax advice
    Haaaa. That is good.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Spicey McCarty is back!
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    That looks dangerous and illegal.  They should arrest her....that would be priceless!
    hippiemom = goodness
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    cincybearcat said:
    That looks dangerous and illegal.  They should arrest her....that would be priceless!
    Considering the TV crew at the end of the run, it seems evident that this is for a skit this weekend on SNL
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    What is Trump hiding? Besides his brilliance?
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    edited May 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What is Trump hiding? Besides his brilliance?
    This comment is brilliant.  :D
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    It has died down. 50 pages and not a single new detail. Just because you won't stop talking about it doesn't mean you are any further ahead. I don't doubt you will still be talking about it for years to come.
    How can you say that after two different sets of subpoenas in the last 48 hours? Are you delusional or not paying attention?
    A subpoena isn't a new detail. It is a search for new details. Feel free to keep searching.
    Oh stfu, that's ridiculous and you know it.  Plus any "detail" under your definition will be classified or under a gag order.  Ergo, you think unless you know about it affirmatively, it isn't happening.  So since you don't know every detail about what is happening in close door committee hearings, nothing is happening.  
    What we have is testimony and all testimony to date says "no evidence of collusion". That comes from Clapper and democrats. For all of you to make the assumption that there is more "behind closed doors" is what is ridiculous. Birthers you have all become.
    Say again?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/james-clapper-james-comey-donald-trump-russia/index.html


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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Is this Russia stuff still a thing?
    President Trump doesn't think so but no one discusses what he has said and still stays about it. It's time to move on and let him serve his elected term in office-
    FBI Director Comey was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad deeds! The phony Trump/Russia story was an excuse used by the Democrats as justification for losing the election. Perhaps Trump just ran a great campaign?
     Susan Rice, the former National Security Advisor to President Obama, is refusing to testify before a Senate Subcommittee next week on allegations of unmasking Trump transition officials.
     Not good! The Fake News media is officially out of control. They will do or say anything in order to get attention - never been a time like this!   When will the Fake Media ask about the Dems dealings with Russia & why the DNC wouldn't allow the FBI to check their server or investigate? I'm not against the media. I'm against the FAKE media! General Flynn was given the highest security clearance by the Obama Administration - but the Fake News seldom likes talking about that! Ask Sally Yates, under oath, if she knows how classified information got into the newspapers soon after she explained it to W.H. Counsel. Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows- there is "no evidence" of collusion w/ Russia and Trump! Sally Yates made the fake media extremely unhappy today --- she said nothing but old news! The Russia-Trump collusion story is a total hoax, when will this taxpayer funded charade end? Biggest story today between Clapper & Yates is on surveillance.
    Why doesn't the media report on this? #FakeNews!Cryin' Chuck Schumer stated recently, "I do not have confidence in him (James Comey) any longer." Then acts so indignant.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    Does The Don consider the Dutch fake news too?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/watch-explosive-dutch-documentary-says-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russias-mafia-underworld/

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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Does The Don consider the Dutch fake news too?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/watch-explosive-dutch-documentary-says-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russias-mafia-underworld/

    There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    BS44325 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Does The Don consider the Dutch fake news too?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/watch-explosive-dutch-documentary-says-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russias-mafia-underworld/

    There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
    Ironically I see this from my vacation in South Africa... You know you're addicted to this place when?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Trump’s Russia scandal keeps getting deeper: At this point, campaign collusion might be the least of his problems

    Firing Comey didn't end the collusion inquiry — but Trump's clumsy coverup and financial ties are his real problem

    http://www.salon.com/2017/05/15/trumps-russia-scandal-keeps-getting-deeper-at-this-point-campaign-collusion-might-be-the-least-of-his-problems/
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    bbbbbbbbbbut.....her emails! Benghazi! Fast and Furious!
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,544
    vaggar99 said:
    bbbbbbbbbbut.....her emails! Benghazi! Fast and Furious!
    You forgot. ....BILL BILL BILL
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    dignin said:

    Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106
    Boom! Another bombshell. From Russia with love. Follow the money. Untenable. Impeachment.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605

    Why?

    Veterans of previous election campaigns said some contact with foreign officials during a campaign was not unusual, but the number of interactions between Trump aides and Russian officials and others with links to Putin was exceptional.

    “It’s rare to have that many phone calls to foreign officials, especially to a country we consider an adversary or a hostile power,” Richard Armitage, a Republican and former deputy secretary of state, told Reuters.

    From the linked Reuters article.

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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    There's also rumors that Flynn is the one leaking this info to try and get his immunity deal. It doesn't look good for Pence either.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605

    Here's the transcript of House Speaker Ryan covering up what will become obvious. Nice leadership.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm:homepage/story

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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Here's the transcript of House Speaker Ryan covering up what will become obvious. Nice leadership.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm:homepage/story

    So the top two successors to the WH are compromised already. This is going to be a shit storm. Tump will announce he is stepping down today and ask that all investigations cease so Pence can run the country without interference like he has faced.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Here's the transcript of House Speaker Ryan covering up what will become obvious. Nice leadership.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm:homepage/story

    So the top two successors to the WH are compromised already. This is going to be a shit storm. Tump will announce he is stepping down today and ask that all investigations cease so Pence can run the country without interference like he has faced.
    ...just like Spiro Agnew did...
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back against FBI collusion probe after Comey revealed its existence


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumprussia-629pm:homepage/story
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