Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    I'm not sure I understand. I'm outraged. Is that phony?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,713
    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Why is that Herr Professor? Because you said so?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Why is that Herr Professor? Because you said so?
    Nope. Obama said so.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Why is that Herr Professor? Because you said so?
    Nope. Obama said so.
    Obama declared that the wikileaks outrage re: Russia was phony? This is news. I'm shocked Trump hasn't re-tweeted the quote yet.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,713
    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Your hero Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton is plenty outraged, Herr Professor.
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  • BS44325
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    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Why is that Herr Professor? Because you said so?
    Nope. Obama said so.
    Obama declared that the wikileaks outrage re: Russia was phony? This is news. I'm shocked Trump hasn't re-tweeted the quote yet.
    Be patient. The outrage is phony. It's official.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Your hero Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton is plenty outraged, Herr Professor.
    Yes. His outrage has been consistent. It is the democratic outrage that is phony comrade.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    TMZ reported this scoop and is now coming out. They're always a first reliable source.
    http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/17/president-obama-commutes-chelsea-manning-sentence/
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said last week he would agree to extradition to the U.S. if Obama released Manning from prison. Assange remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
  • mrussel1
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    TMZ reported this scoop and is now coming out. They're always a first reliable source.
    http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/17/president-obama-commutes-chelsea-manning-sentence/
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said last week he would agree to extradition to the U.S. if Obama released Manning from prison. Assange remains holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

    Wait... Assange isn't a stand up guy? More breaking news!!
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^^
    he will keep his word he told me so
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Your hero Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton is plenty outraged, Herr Professor.
    Yes. His outrage has been consistent. It is the democratic outrage that is phony comrade.
    So I don't know Obama's thinking on the matter, but he could have granted clemency at any point. My guess is that he felt that a jail sentence was warranted, but not necessarily 35 years. He felt that 7 years was sufficient.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    edited January 2017
    So do you think that Assange is only making this offer because he knows Trump will pardon him?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:

    So do you think that Assange is only making this offer because he knows Trump will pardon him?

    Interesting thought.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,534
    mrussel1 said:

    So do you think that Assange is only making this offer because he knows Trump will pardon him?

    Not only will trump pardon him....he's going to name him Director of National Intelligence
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    Bentleyspop said:

    mrussel1 said:

    So do you think that Assange is only making this offer because he knows Trump will pardon him?

    Not only will trump pardon him....he's going to name him Director of National Intelligence
    Ha! That reminds me of SNL when they had him name Walter White to head the DEA.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Did Ted Kennedy enlist Russian help to defeat Reagan?

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html


    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/12/carr_forget_donald_trump_teddy_kennedy_was_moscow_s_bestie

  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Your hero Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton is plenty outraged, Herr Professor.
    Yes. His outrage has been consistent. It is the democratic outrage that is phony comrade.
    So I don't know Obama's thinking on the matter, but he could have granted clemency at any point. My guess is that he felt that a jail sentence was warranted, but not necessarily 35 years. He felt that 7 years was sufficient.
    Right. Giving national security secrets to wikileaks shouldn't be judge so harshly but giving DNC/Podesta secrets to wikileaks necessitates sanctions and the removal of diplomats. I am ok with sanctions and diplomatic response to Russia but on the whole the commutation sends the wrong signal. It suggests that democrats only care about hacking/wikileaks when it effects them and not national security.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    JC29856 said:

    Did Ted Kennedy enlist Russian help to defeat Reagan?

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html


    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/12/carr_forget_donald_trump_teddy_kennedy_was_moscow_s_bestie

    Both of these articles are restricted. Do you have a Boston Herald sign in? The other one requires white listing. So I didn't do it.

    Regardless, I'm all for putting Teddy through the ringer if he conspired with the USSR. But does that excuse Trump?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Well...

    The commutation of Chelsea Manning's sentence demonstrates that this Russia/Wikileaks outrage has been 100% phony.

    No need to discuss the issue anymore.

    Your hero Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton is plenty outraged, Herr Professor.
    Yes. His outrage has been consistent. It is the democratic outrage that is phony comrade.
    So I don't know Obama's thinking on the matter, but he could have granted clemency at any point. My guess is that he felt that a jail sentence was warranted, but not necessarily 35 years. He felt that 7 years was sufficient.
    Right. Giving national security secrets to wikileaks shouldn't be judge so harshly but giving DNC/Podesta secrets to wikileaks necessitates sanctions and the removal of diplomats. I am ok with sanctions and diplomatic response to Russia but on the whole the commutation sends the wrong signal. It suggests that democrats only care about hacking/wikileaks when it effects them and not national security.
    7 years.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,920
    edited January 2017
    @BS44325 Seven years in jail is much harsher than an expulsion of diplomats. Plus they will just be back next week anyway, staying in the East Wing.
    And maybe he called Assange's bluff.

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