Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826

    Follow the money. I wonder if Trump will release his tax returns? Hmmmmmmm, I wonder. I mean Obama released his birth certificate right.

    Hey JC? Care to connect the dots? Or are you still working that Pizzagate puzzle?

    He's busy defending Trump's use of a private server. I thought JC was a conspiracy nut...but perhaps I was wrong and he's just a pro-Trump Bannonite (add that one to the list, replacing Leninist perhaps?)
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    edited January 2017
    people are being taken out:

    "An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed.

    Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious circumstances.

    Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier."

    telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/
  • vaggar99 said:

    people are being taken out:

    "An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed.

    Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious circumstances.

    Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier."

    telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

    I'm going to need more string!
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    Just finished reading the whole dossier. Wow doesn't even begin to cover it.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
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  • vaggar99 said:

    people are being taken out:

    "An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed.

    Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in the KGB and its successor the FSB, was found dead in the back of his car in Moscow on Boxing Day in mysterious circumstances.

    Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier."

    telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

    I'm going to need more string!
    Add that to the guy who disappeared after being dragged away from his meeting and being charged with treason. He'll be found guilty by some military tribunal and shot with no one hearing from him again. Scary times.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    they went after the Berners. makes sense
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    from Steele dossier:
    1. Speaking in confdence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source B, an
    ethnic Russian close associate of Republican US presidential candidate
    Donald TRUMP, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of
    co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was
    managed on the TRUMP side by the Republican candidate's campaign
    manager, Paul MANAFORT, who was using foreign policy advisor, Carter
    PAGE, and others as intermediaries. The two sides had a mutual interest
    in defeating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, whom
    President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    vaggar99 said:

    from Steele dossier:
    1. Speaking in confdence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source B, an
    ethnic Russian close associate of Republican US presidential candidate
    Donald TRUMP, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of
    co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was
    managed on the TRUMP side by the Republican candidate's campaign
    manager, Paul MANAFORT, who was using foreign policy advisor, Carter
    PAGE, and others as intermediaries. The two sides had a mutual interest
    in defeating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, whom
    President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared.

    It's well documented that Putin believes the Clinton State Dep't was responsible for civil unrest in Russia in, I think it was 2010. He has hated her since then.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    more:
    "Commenting on the negative media publicity surrounding alleged
    Russian interference in the US election campaign in support of TRUMP,
    Source said he understood that the Republican candidate and his team
    were relatively relaxed about this because it deflected media and the
    Democrats and attention away from TRUMP's business dealings in China and
    other emerging markets. Unlike in Russia, these were substantial and
    involved the payment of large bribes and kickbacks which, were they to
    become public, would be potentially very damaging to their campaign."
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    edited January 2017
    more:


    Detail

    1. Speaking to a trusted compatriot in September 2016, two well-placed
    sources based in St Petersburg, one in the political/business elite and the
    other involved in the local services and tourist industry, commented on
    Republican US presidential candidate Donald prior activities in
    the city.

    2. Both knew TRUMP had visited St Petersburg on several occasions in the
    past and had been interested in doing business deals there involving real
    estate. The local business/ political elite figure reported that TRUMP had
    paid bribes there to further his interests but very discreetly and only
    through affiliated companies, making it very hard to prove. The local
    services industry source reported that TRUMP had participated in sex
    parties in the city too, but that all direct witnesses to this recently had
    been silenced i.e. bribed or coerced to disappear.

    3. The two St Petersburg figures cited believed an Azeri business figure,
    Araz AGALAROV (with offices in Baku and London) had been closely

    involved with TRUMP in Russia and would know most of the details of
    what the Republican presidential candidate had got up to there.

    14 September 2016
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,988
    edited January 2017
    .
    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    agree. Did someone already mention how the Russian guy responsible for the dossier was found dead the other day?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    PJ_Soul said:

    .

    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    I agree. Did someone already mention how the Russian guy responsible for the dossier was found dead the other day?
    yup. that's not shady at all, though....

    (obviously, I'm joking)
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,988
    mfc2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    .

    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    I agree. Did someone already mention how the Russian guy responsible for the dossier was found dead the other day?
    yup. that's not shady at all, though....

    (obviously, I'm joking)
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,427
    PJ_Soul said:

    .

    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    agree. Did someone already mention how the Russian guy responsible for the dossier was found dead the other day?
    my understanding was he died back in December but the circumstances were shady none the less.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    vaggar99 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    .

    mfc2006 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    ^^^
    just one sentence about pee-pee tapes and that's all the media has reported. the real crazy shit is every other word in it.

    I know it & it's beyond disturbing. Everyone is in wait & see mode.....we shouldn't be waiting for anything.
    agree. Did someone already mention how the Russian guy responsible for the dossier was found dead the other day?
    my understanding was he died back in December but the circumstances were shady none the less.
    Back in December? You mean last month?
    The dossier was dated July 19, 2016.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    Pretty sure, as far as I know, Christopher Steele is still alive. He was the author of the dossier.

    One of his possible Russian contacts showed up dead.

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  • This isn't suspicious at all.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1582OH

    This administration is f'ing over America & its citizens, but don't worry guys, all this outrage is phony.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,596
    edited February 2017
    Follow the money indeed




    Edit: apologies as this doesnt have to do w/ Russia, it's just another example of how crooked & compromised this administration is.
    (But don't worry folks, my outrage is phony.)
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    We get all these details about Trumps calls with other leaders, but some vague BS on Russia.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/foreign-policy-insider-no-readout-of-trump-putin-call-because-white-house-turned-off-recording/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,988
    tbergs said:

    We get all these details about Trumps calls with other leaders, but some vague BS on Russia.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/foreign-policy-insider-no-readout-of-trump-putin-call-because-white-house-turned-off-recording/

    It's like the other end of the Nixon spectrum, lol.
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  • That RoguePOTUSStaff account is obviously fake. They had me going for a while but then they took it a little too far earlier this week.
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