Russia's Influence On The American Election

Halifax2TheMax

josevolution said:

jeffbr said:

Looks like the US Intelligence Communities declassified report was just released:

Key Judgments

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.We
have high confidence in these judgments.

• We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
• Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
• Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.

Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.

• Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
• We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
• Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
• Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.

We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

Fake news no lol cmon pjfan let's hear your spin on it and where are the other Trumpsters of the board ..

They're onboard the Siberian Express dontcha know! fake news, fake news, fake news! No US law enforcement agency has reported any such finding!

jeffbr

Hopefully The Donald will appoint Baron Trump to be the Cyber Czar and make us safe from future attacks.

"So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a, it is a huge problem. I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them."

rgambs

jeffbr said:

Hopefully The Donald will appoint Baron Trump to be the Cyber Czar and make us safe from future attacks.

"So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a, it is a huge problem. I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them."

You couldn't make this shit up, it's just too dumb.

jeffbr

rgambs said:

jeffbr said:

Hopefully The Donald will appoint Baron Trump to be the Cyber Czar and make us safe from future attacks.

"So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a, it is a huge problem. I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them."

You couldn't make this shit up, it's just too dumb.

Ha, I think he does better when he sticks to 140 characters. Stringing words into sentences, and sentences into paragraphs, and on top of that trying to make it all make sense appears to be just a little too advanced for him.

BS44325

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

mfc2006

He is so damn good with those computers. Bigly good.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

He's not an elected official, to my knowledge. Maybe he is. Maybe's he's a paid Hillary troll. Like me..... Although now I'm doing pro-bono work.

josevolution

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

He's not an elected official, to my knowledge. Maybe he is. Maybe's he's a paid Hillary troll. Like me..... Although now I'm doing pro-bono work.

You fought the good fight and deserve every single cent of your pre-election work.

BS44325

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

Of course I do...I just think that outrage from these boards and the media as a whole is completely phony. Nobody on here really cares. Russia and China have been hacking and have been belligerent on a number of fronts for the last 8 years and nobody said a word. If I ever brought up their behaviour on another thread I was accused of being a neocon warmonger who wants to send american kids off to die. Most of you only care because your terrible candidate lost and the dreaded donald is about to take office. The Obama response has been a joke and not a single one of you have said "Obama should be doing X in response". It is clear as day how phony this all is but hopefully a revamped intelligence agency, state department, department of defense will do what is necessary "behind the scenes" to confront cyber attacks.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

He's not an elected official, to my knowledge. Maybe he is. Maybe's he's a paid Hillary troll. Like me..... Although now I'm doing pro-bono work.

You fought the good fight and deserve every single cent of your pre-election work.

Thank you...

Edwin E....

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

He's not an elected official, to my knowledge. Maybe he is. Maybe's he's a paid Hillary troll. Like me..... Although now I'm doing pro-bono work.

You fought the good fight and deserve every single cent of your pre-election work.

Thank you...

Edwin E....

DAMN YOU!!!!

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

He's not an elected official, to my knowledge. Maybe he is. Maybe's he's a paid Hillary troll. Like me..... Although now I'm doing pro-bono work.

You fought the good fight and deserve every single cent of your pre-election work.

Thank you...

Edwin E....

DAMN YOU!!!!

Get Millsap. Make the playoffs close this spring

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

Of course I do...I just think that outrage from these boards and the media as a whole is completely phony. Nobody on here really cares. Russia and China have been hacking and have been belligerent on a number of fronts for the last 8 years and nobody said a word. If I ever brought up their behaviour on another thread I was accused of being a neocon warmonger who wants to se nd american kids off to die. Most of you only care because your terrible candidate lost and the dreaded donald is about to take office. The Obama response has been a joke and not a single one of you have said "Obama should be doing X in response". It is clear as day how phony this all is but hopefully a revamped intelligence agency, state department, department of defense will do what is necessary "behind the scenes" to confront cyber attacks.

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

Of course I do...I just think that outrage from these boards and the media as a whole is completely phony. Nobody on here really cares. Russia and China have been hacking and have been belligerent on a number of fronts for the last 8 years and nobody said a word. If I ever brought up their behaviour on another thread I was accused of being a neocon warmonger who wants to send american kids off to die. Most of you only care because your terrible candidate lost and the dreaded donald is about to take office. The Obama response has been a joke and not a single one of you have said "Obama should be doing X in response". It is clear as day how phony this all is but hopefully a revamped intelligence agency, state department, department of defense will do what is necessary "behind the scenes" to confront cyber attacks.

I know hope and change was an Obama campaign slogan, but I'm hearing a lot of "hope"
being summoned in the name of trump. Let's hope he doesn't do this or that. Let's hope he changes government. Let's hope he doesn't do 98% of the ridiculous things he said he's going to do.

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

Of course I do...I just think that outrage from these boards and the media as a whole is completely phony. Nobody on here really cares. Russia and China have been hacking and have been belligerent on a number of fronts for the last 8 years and nobody said a word. If I ever brought up their behaviour on another thread I was accused of being a neocon warmonger who wants to send american kids off to die. Most of you only care because your terrible candidate lost and the dreaded donald is about to take office. The Obama response has been a joke and not a single one of you have said "Obama should be doing X in response". It is clear as day how phony this all is but hopefully a revamped intelligence agency, state department, department of defense will do what is necessary "behind the scenes" to confront cyber attacks.

I know hope and change was an Obama campaign slogan, but I'm hearing a lot of "hope"
being summoned in the name of trump. Let's hope he doesn't do this or that. Let's hope he changes government. Let's hope he doesn't do 98% of the ridiculous things he said he's going to do.

Correct. All one can do now is hope. We know that continuing on the same path was a recipe for disaster. We hope that this new path can right the ship. There is no guarantee. The odds are not good.

BS44325

The best part about the report released today is how Occupy Wall Street and the Anti-Fracking movement are all tools of Russia! The sweet irony!

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

The best part about the report released today is how Occupy Wall Street and the Anti-Fracking movement are all tools of Russia! The sweet irony!

So Hillary was right.

But I guess she should be considering her previous job.

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

So?

Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.

Are you disparaging the FBI? I thought disparagement was a cause for worry?

So what you think Russia hacked or no ?

Of course I do...I just think that outrage from these boards and the media as a whole is completely phony. Nobody on here really cares. Russia and China have been hacking and have been belligerent on a number of fronts for the last 8 years and nobody said a word. If I ever brought up their behaviour on another thread I was accused of being a neocon warmonger who wants to send american kids off to die. Most of you only care because your terrible candidate lost and the dreaded donald is about to take office. The Obama response has been a joke and not a single one of you have said "Obama should be doing X in response". It is clear as day how phony this all is but hopefully a revamped intelligence agency, state department, department of defense will do what is necessary "behind the scenes" to confront cyber attacks.

I know hope and change was an Obama campaign slogan, but I'm hearing a lot of "hope"
being summoned in the name of trump. Let's hope he doesn't do this or that. Let's hope he changes government. Let's hope he doesn't do 98% of the ridiculous things he said he's going to do.

Correct. All one can do now is hope. We know that continuing on the same path was a recipe for disaster. We hope that this new path can right the ship. There is no guarantee. The odds are not good.

Hiw was the path we were on a recipe for disaster?

JC29856

Anyone see the John harwood Twitter poll?