Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    I can't imagine anyone who needs to help the Don make his administration illegitimate. He does that on his own and Obama doesn't need to say or do anything.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,306
    Assange says a 14-year-old could have hacked Democratic emails as he reveals John Podesta’s password was 'password'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4087092/Assange-says-14-year-old-hacked-Democratic-emails-reveals-John-Podesta-s-password-password.html#ixzz4UoBe1xn6

    Password??? That is the stupidest password since this scene in Spaceballs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JNGI1dI-e8
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  • tbergs
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    How much can we believe from Assange? If there were ever a legitimate case for waterboarding, Assange might be worth it to get to the bottom of all this crap.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856
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    edited January 2017
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  • ledvedderman
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    Such a patriot. Ignoring the proper respect to the flag per the Flag Code.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,306
    tbergs said:

    How much can we believe from Assange? If there were ever a legitimate case for waterboarding, Assange might be worth it to get to the bottom of all this crap.

    Agree. I still think he is in cahoots with the Soviets so it would make sense that he would try to throw everyone off-scent.

    But if Podesta really used "password" as his password, Assange is right. That makes my parents email account PW look super sophisticated.
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  • Go Beavers
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    Jason P said:

    tbergs said:

    How much can we believe from Assange? If there were ever a legitimate case for waterboarding, Assange might be worth it to get to the bottom of all this crap.

    Agree. I still think he is in cahoots with the Soviets so it would make sense that he would try to throw everyone off-scent.

    But if Podesta really used "password" as his password, Assange is right. That makes my parents email account PW look super sophisticated.
    1234?
  • JC29856
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    http://phibetaiota.net/2017/01/robert-steele-in-defence-and-intelligence-norway-the-russians-did-not-hack-the-us-election-a-few-facts-from-a-former-cia-spy/#more-123110

    I am deeply offended by the lies being told by the US Government – and more specifically, by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) with the explicit approval of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the President – with respect to the Russians “hacking” the US election.

    – I am reminded of the 935 now-documented lies told by Dick Cheney to justify a $5 trillion war and multiple occupations from Afghanistan to Niger – or in more Nordic terms, the falsification by the Swedish military, in collaboration with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and CIA, of a Russian submarine that never existed, allegedly “invading” Swedish waters.


    As a CIA spy, I have faked intelligence, lied to government leaders, and managed a modest false flag operation (no one died). This is what CIA does. I accuse John Brennan, Director of the CIA, of being a liar who is in betrayal of the public trust with his lies. The most recent DHS-FBI report – and related reports from small companies seeking to curry favor with the Deep State – are absolute crap.

    I was the author of the first letter to the White House warning of our cyber-security shortfalls, in 1994. In the same year I was the opening speaker for Hackers on Planet Earth. The year before, in 1993, I introduced NSA to hackers — of the 900+ participants in my international conference roughly 60 were from NSA, bused down from Fort Meade to listen to a panel led by Emanuel Goldstein, founder of 2600.

    Here are the facts as I understand them, augmented by public statements from Julian Assange, Craig Murray, William Binney, James Bamford, Ray McGovern, Philip Giraldi, and John McAfee – and others who do not wish to be named.

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  • JC29856
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    I found out, after some digging, that of the 876 suspicious IP addresses that the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of National Intelligence put on the Russian cyber attacker list, at least 367 of them (roughly 42%) are either Tor exit nodes right now, or were Tor exit nodes in the last few years. I have a lot of regular readers who are Tor users, and I’m pretty sure they’re not all Russian hackers. So the quick answer to the mystery of my website apparently being attacked by nefarious IP addresses listed in the U.S. report is that the Russians, along with many thousands of others, just happened to use the Tor IP addresses that my regular readers used (and still use).

    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/the-u-s-government-thinks-thousands-of-russian-hackers-are-reading-my-blog-they-arent/
  • dignin said:
    Disparagement of all things "government" should be a cause for worry. Imagine working for any of these federal agencies, particularly the ones where your new director had actively worked or advocated for your agency's (company's) abolishment. Way to motivate the workers Donald. And it hasn't even started yet.
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  • dignin
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    dignin said:
    Disparagement of all things "government" should be a cause for worry. Imagine working for any of these federal agencies, particularly the ones where your new director had actively worked or advocated for your agency's (company's) abolishment. Way to motivate the workers Donald. And it hasn't even started yet.
    Good point.
  • JC29856
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    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers
  • JC29856 said:

    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

    So?
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  • dignin
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    JC29856 said:

    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," the agency said. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/fbi-says-democrats-refused-access-to-hacked-e-mail-servers

    So?
    Yeah, I don't really see the point trying to be made. And I'm not surprised the DNC wasn't anxious to give access to the FBI given their obvious favour towards Trump.
  • jeffbr
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    Looks like the US Intelligence Communities declassified report was just released:

    Key Judgments

    Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

    We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.
    We
    have high confidence in these judgments.
    • We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
    • Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
    • Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.
    Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
    • Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
    • We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
    • Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
    • Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
    We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    jeffbr said:

    Looks like the US Intelligence Communities declassified report was just released:

    Key Judgments

    Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

    We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.
    We
    have high confidence in these judgments.

    • We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
    • Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
    • Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.
    Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
    • Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
    • We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
    • Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
    • Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
    We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

    Fake news no lol cmon pjfan let's hear your spin on it and where are the other Trumpsters of the board ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    Huh?
    I didn't post this.