From the WSJ "It isn't clear when the counter intelligence began, produced any incriminating evidence or if it is continuing"
Because it's an active investigation by 5 different law enforcement/national security agencies and they're not going to pull a Comey. Treasury's financial crimes unit included. Trump is hiding something, including maybe having put the kabosh on this investigation. Follow the money.
From the WSJ "It isn't clear when the counter intelligence began, produced any incriminating evidence or if it is continuing"
Because it's an active investigation by 5 different law enforcement/national security agencies and they're not going to pull a Comey. Treasury's financial crimes unit included. Trump is hiding something, including maybe having put the kabosh on this investigation. Follow the money.
You should consider providing your sources about the active investigation to the WSJ so they can update and correct the article. I'm guessing WSJ has more "reach" then your posts here.
From the WSJ "It isn't clear when the counter intelligence began, produced any incriminating evidence or if it is continuing"
Because it's an active investigation by 5 different law enforcement/national security agencies and they're not going to pull a Comey. Treasury's financial crimes unit included. Trump is hiding something, including maybe having put the kabosh on this investigation. Follow the money.
You should consider providing your sources about the active investigation to the WSJ so they can update and correct the article. I'm guessing WSJ has more "reach" then your posts here.
Interesting read... Hersch explains the intelligence report as a belief vs facts. You can compare it to trumps belief that 3.5 million people voted illegally. He is not stating a fact, based on evidence, he is stating his belief.
Texas, as the largest purchaser of textbooks, controls the content of said textbooks. Russian interference in Trump's election will nary get a mention. But a whole section will be devoted to Comet Pizza and fake news.
Example after example after example of those quick to exploit Russian hacking narrative.
“With respect to the alleged interference by Russia and WikiLeaks in the U.S election, it is a major mystery why U.S. intelligence feels it must rely on ‘circumstantial evidence,’ when it has NSA’s vacuum cleaner sucking up hard evidence galore,” wrote NSA Whistleblower, Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran at the agency who designed the monitoring program, ThinThread, that was used for a mass surveillance program on American citizens and foreign leaders that Edward Snowden later exposed with Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA Veteran Analyst, for CounterPunch. Binney and McGovern also noted that former Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, in addition to committing perjury in a congressional hearing, oversaw analysis of satellite imagery at the National Imagery and Mapping Agency that helped fabricate the lie that WMDs existed in Iraq in order to provide a reason for the U.S. to invade. “Because NSA can trace exactly where and how any ‘hacked’ emails from the Democratic National Committee or other servers were routed through the network, it is puzzling why NSA cannot produce hard evidence implicating the Russian government and WikiLeaks.” During Obama’s last press conference, he acknowledged that he didn’t have conclusive evidence as to what Wikileaks’ role was in the hacks aside from releasing the emails.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
There is enough evidence to convince many in our intelligence community and gov't that as a result of Russia's involvement in the election, Trump's presidency is illegitimate and / or compromised.
So as a result, the president is going to investigate the American people for voter fraud.
Makes sense in Trump's America.
Does this sound 'birthery' too? Is this this more 'phony outrage'?
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
sounds like it goes beyond the DNC hack/Wikileaks/fake news. Can you see vote tampering?
"Donald Trump won the White House by, among other things, relentlessly attacking his opponent for her reckless use of private communications devices while serving in public office. By campaign’s end, the one thing Americans knew about Hillary Clinton, beyond all else, was that she had done some bad things with her emails."......
..... and the rubes swallowed it hook line & sinker. Congrats on being duped America.
We're "'Gonna win so much people will say we can't take it anymore' ... and I'm going to say I'm sorry, we're going to keep winning because we are going to make America great again."
"Donald Trump won the White House by, among other things, relentlessly attacking his opponent for her reckless use of private communications devices while serving in public office. By campaign’s end, the one thing Americans knew about Hillary Clinton, beyond all else, was that she had done some bad things with her emails."......
..... and the rubes swallowed it hook line & sinker. Congrats on being duped America.
"Lock her up" right?
Talk about phony outrage.
I'm not so sure using a private server or email is illegal? I thought we learned that you can use private servers and personal emails for personal non state reasons, say for instance your daughters wedding or discussing grandchildren. It is however illegal to use private servers emails to conduct state business, like sending or receiving classified information.
There is also a 20 day rule, 20 days to convert from others servers emails over to state, it's been 7 days. But go on.....
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
Hopefully it will come out sooner than later.
Sounds birthery
Sure, if you want to compare many members of congress hinting about things they have been briefed on by the CIA to the crazy ramblings of Trump. Same same.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
sounds like it goes beyond the DNC hack/Wikileaks/fake news. Can you see vote tampering?
Highly unlikely based on how votes are counted and retrieved from the machines. The only way I could envision that is if someone at the election vending company deliberately hacked a memory card to change votes from one candidate to another.
Congressman: Info In Classified CIA Doc Would Cause Election Do-Over In Other Countries “Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
I've heard of this as well from a couple other members of Congress. I give them credit for sticking to their duty to keep it confidential. That has to be hard when you see day in and day out what Trump is saying.
sounds like it goes beyond the DNC hack/Wikileaks/fake news. Can you see vote tampering?
Highly unlikely based on how votes are counted and retrieved from the machines. The only way I could envision that is if someone at the election vending company deliberately hacked a memory card to change votes from one candidate to another.
hmmm...then what else could it be. maybe its just his peoples to Russia and/or the blackmail tape(s)?
Explosive memos suggest that a Trump-Russia quid pro quo was at the heart of the GOP's dramatic shift on Ukraine
Natasha Bertrand (Business Insider)
Donald Trump holding up his notes about an email from Sidney Blumenthal found in Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta's inbox released by WikiLeaks.Screenshot/YouTube An unverified dossier provided to US intelligence officials alleges that President-elect Donald Trump "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russian intervention in Ukraine during his campaign after Russia promised to feed the emails it stole from prominent Democrats' inboxes to WikiLeaks.
The dossier was part of an opposition-research project conducted by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, at the behest of anti-Trump Republicans and, later, Democrats. Steele was the former head of the Russia desk in Moscow for Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, also known as MI6. The memos he wrote made their way to US intelligence officials sometime last year.
A summary of his findings, collected from the network of Russian intelligence sources he had cultivated, was presented to Trump, President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and the country's top lawmakers on intelligence matters earlier this month as part of a classified briefing about Russia's intervention in the US presidential election.
The dossier's claim about a Ukraine-WikiLeaks quid pro quo alleges that Trump would refrain from speaking forcefully, if at all, during the 2016 presidential campaign about Russia's 2014 incursion into eastern Ukraine. In return, Russia would provide WikiLeaks the documents it stole from the Democratic National Committee.
Throughout the campaign, Trump broke from traditional GOP orthodoxy and established himself as the most sympathetic Republican candidate toward Russia, stressing a need to work with the country on various geopolitical issues.
Trump has not commented on the dossier's specific claims, but he did cite a conservative-leaning news outlet in a tweet Saturday to call the dossier itself a "complete fraud."
From 'lethal weapons' to 'appropriate assistance'
The Washington Post's Josh Rogin reported last year that "the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events" just before the July 18 start of the Republican National Convention to change the language of an amendment to the GOP's draft policy on Ukraine that denounced Russia's "ongoing military aggression" in Ukraine.
The amendment, proposed by GOP delegate Diana Denman at a meeting of the party's national-security subcommittee in Cleveland, called for maintaining and increasing sanctions on Russia in light of the country's annexation of Crimea and incursion into eastern Ukraine in 2014.
It also proposed "providing lethal defensive weapons" to the Ukrainian military to fend off separatist fighters backed by the Kremlin.
After Denman read her amendment aloud at the meeting, two Trump campaign representatives approached the chairman of the committee and asked that the proposal be tabled, Denman told The Daily Beast at the time.
"When I read my amendment, they got up and walked over and talked to the co-chairmen and they read it," she said. "That's when I was told that it was going to be tabled."
Because campaign representatives are not permitted to publicly debate the merits of an amendment at a subcommittee platform meeting, Denman said, the Trump staffers approached her privately and asked her to change the language that called for sending arms to Ukraine.
One of the staffers, J.D. Gordon — then the Trump campaign's national-security policy representative for the RNC — told Business Insider last week that "Ms. Denman's memory of events is inaccurate."
Gordon did not comment on Denman's claim that he had approached her about the amendment privately. But he said he "never left" his "assigned side table, nor spoke publicly at the meeting of delegates during the platform meeting."
The national security subcommittee cochair Steve Yates told The Daily Beast, however, that he was "reasonably sure that the [Trump] campaign staff were in the room and that they gave an opinion" on Ukraine.
"I just can't say for sure what that opinion was," he said.
'This change came from Trump staffers'
After some debate, the platform passed with a provision to "provide appropriate assistance" to the Ukrainian army rather than provide it with "lethal defense weapons."
The debate over the language change was limited, however, because the committee had essentially run out of time to deliberate on the Ukraine platform after it was tabled by Trump's staffers, said a member of the committee present at the meeting who requested anonymity to discuss the deliberations.
The logic of the language change among those who supported it, the member said, was that adding language about arming Ukrainian soldiers would be akin to being open to waging war against Russia.
Gordon, the Trump representative, said that even after the language was altered the platform "still was much tougher on Russia than the Democrat Party Platform." Indeed, the final platform retained much of its tough language on Russia, including its calls to maintain or, if warranted, increase sanctions "until Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored."
ukraine army missiles otr 21 tochka mobile launch system Ukrainian OTR-21 Tochka-U mobile missile launch systems seen during Ukraine's Independence Day military parade in central Kiev, on August 24.REUTERS/Gleb Garanich
Including the call to send arms to Ukraine would not have been extreme or out of step with GOP orthodoxy on the issue, however.
"The language of the original amendment didn't seem strong," the committee member said. "Denman sent out an email before the meeting saying she was going to propose the amendment at the meeting, and no one replied — or, at least 'replied all' — saying they objected to it. I wrote back quickly saying I fully supported it, actually."
The amendment, the official said, "was controversial if you hold Donald Trump's express views on Russia, but it wasn't controversial with regard to GOP orthodoxy on the issue. So this change on Ukraine definitely came from Trump staffers — not from RNC staffers."
It was particularly surprising, the member added, given the Trump campaign representatives' "relatively hands-off approach" to other parts of the GOP's national-security platform.
That approach seems to have extended to the six other subcommittees tasked with crafting different parts of the GOP platform before the convention. Boyd Matheson, a Utah delegate on the Constitution Subcommittee, told The Daily Beast that the Trump campaign was "nowhere to be seen" during their deliberations.
Gordon, Trump's representative for the national security committee, said that every subcommittee "featured Trump campaign representatives at side tables to monitor the process and facilitate any questions from delegates."
Trump's campaign manager at the time of the convention, Paul Manafort, told MSNBC at the time that the change in the GOP's Ukraine policy "absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign."
Before the GOP's national security committee meeting last July, Trump had said multiple times that he thought the West should respond more forcefully to Russian aggression.
He gave a speech in Ukraine in September 2015, at the Yalta European Strategy Annual Meeting, where he said "our president is not strong and he is not doing what he should be doing for the Ukraine." He mentioned that he thought Europe should be "leading some of the charge" against Russia's aggression, too.
But his tone on Ukraine and Crimea appeared to shift after he hired Manafort to manage his campaign in April 2016, as Politico's Michael Crowley has reported.
At the end of July, for instance, Trump told ABC that "the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Days earlier, he had told reporters that he "would be looking at" the possibility of lifting sanctions against Russia for its annexation of Crimea.
Manafort served as a top adviser to a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine from 2004 to 2012, and he helped the Russia-friendly strongman Viktor Yanukovych win the Ukrainian presidency in 2010.
Yanukovych was ousted on corruption charges in 2014 and fled to Russia under the protection of the Kremlin.
Secret ledgers uncovered by an anticorruption center in Kiev and obtained by The New York Times revealed that Yanukovych's political party, the pro-Russia Party of Regions, earmarked $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments to Manafort for his work from 2007 to 2012.
Manafort has denied ever having collected the earmarked payments. But the unverified dossier on which top US leaders have been briefed alleges that Yanukovych "confided directly to Putin that he authorized kickback payments to Manafort," who "had been commercially active in Ukraine right up to the time (in March 2016) when he joined campaign team."
manafortSerhiy Leshchenko, an investigative journalist turned lawmaker, showing a copy of one of the once secret accounting documents of Ukraine's pro-Kremlin party that were released and purporting to show payments of $12.7 million earmarked for Trump's campaign chairman at the time, Paul Manafort, during a news conference in Kiev on August 19.Efrem Lukatsky/AP
The dossier also alleges that Manafort, who resigned as Trump's campaign manager on August 19, served as a liaison between Trump's campaign team and Russian government officials:
"Speaking in confidence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source E, an ethnic Russian and close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald TRUMP, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was managed on the TRUMP side by the Republican candidate's campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT, who was using foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE, and others as intermediaries. The two sides had a mutual interest in defeating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, whom President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared."
That claim has not been independently verified. The FBI looked into both Page and Manafort last year for their respective ties to Russian officials and business interests.
The same source, "source E," told the author of the dossier that Russia had hacked the DNC and leaked the stolen documents to WikiLeaks "with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team."
Trump invoked WikiLeaks dozens of times on the campaign trail, often reading portions of the stolen and leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.
"I love WikiLeaks,"he told listeners during a campaign rally in Pennsylvania in October. "It's amazing how nothing is secret today when you talk about the internet."
The dossier states that in return for Russia's feeding the documents to WikiLeaks, "the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise defense commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for Putin who needed to cauterise the subject."
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has denied that the Russian government provided it with the hacked documents. As Business Insider's Paul Szoldra has written, however, WikiLeaks' website is designed to provide leakers with anonymity even from WikiLeaks itself.
"The site's anonymous drop box keeps no record of who submits documents, does not offer or require any identifying information, and there is no single WikiLeaks employee with the power to unmask an anonymous source," Szoldra wrote. "At least, that's what WikiLeaks claims."
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Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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Nothing here either, Flynn cleared. Maybe the other active investigations will turn something up.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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How the Kremlin hand picked our president.
http://asmdc.org/members/a10/newsroom/press-releases/assemblymember-levine-announces-bill-about-russian-interference-in-presidential-election
You can compare it to trumps belief that 3.5 million people voted illegally. He is not stating a fact, based on evidence, he is stating his belief.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/25/seymour-hersh-blasts-media-for-uncritically-promoting-russian-hacking-story/
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Example after example after example of those quick to exploit Russian hacking narrative.
“With respect to the alleged interference by Russia and WikiLeaks in the U.S election, it is a major mystery why U.S. intelligence feels it must rely on ‘circumstantial evidence,’ when it has NSA’s vacuum cleaner sucking up hard evidence galore,” wrote NSA Whistleblower, Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran at the agency who designed the monitoring program, ThinThread, that was used for a mass surveillance program on American citizens and foreign leaders that Edward Snowden later exposed with Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA Veteran Analyst, for CounterPunch. Binney and McGovern also noted that former Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, in addition to committing perjury in a congressional hearing, oversaw analysis of satellite imagery at the National Imagery and Mapping Agency that helped fabricate the lie that WMDs existed in Iraq in order to provide a reason for the U.S. to invade. “Because NSA can trace exactly where and how any ‘hacked’ emails from the Democratic National Committee or other servers were routed through the network, it is puzzling why NSA cannot produce hard evidence implicating the Russian government and WikiLeaks.” During Obama’s last press conference, he acknowledged that he didn’t have conclusive evidence as to what Wikileaks’ role was in the hacks aside from releasing the emails.
“Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen,” the rep said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mark-pocan-cia-docs_us_58864a54e4b096b4a2338991
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/26/report-arrested-russian-intel-officer-allegedly-spied-us/97094696/
https://nytimes.com/2017/01/25/world/europe/sergei-mikhailov-russian-cybercrimes-agent-arrested.html?_r=0
There is enough evidence to convince many in our intelligence community and gov't that as a result of Russia's involvement in the election, Trump's presidency is illegitimate and / or compromised.
So as a result, the president is going to investigate the American people for voter fraud.
Makes sense in Trump's America.
Does this sound 'birthery' too? Is this this more 'phony outrage'?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/donald-trump-is-still-using-his-unsecured-android-phone.html?mid=twitter_nymag
"Donald Trump won the White House by, among other things, relentlessly attacking his opponent for her reckless use of private communications devices while serving in public office. By campaign’s end, the one thing Americans knew about Hillary Clinton, beyond all else, was that she had done some bad things with her emails."......
..... and the rubes swallowed it hook line & sinker. Congrats on being duped America.
"Lock her up" right?
Talk about phony outrage.
Make America great again.
We're "'Gonna win so much people will say we can't take it anymore' ... and I'm going to say I'm sorry, we're going to keep winning because we are going to make America great again."
Fucking rubes
It is however illegal to use private servers emails to conduct state business, like sending or receiving classified information.
There is also a 20 day rule, 20 days to convert from others servers emails over to state, it's been 7 days. But go on.....
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Explosive memos suggest that a Trump-Russia quid pro quo was at the heart of the GOP's dramatic shift on Ukraine
Natasha Bertrand (Business Insider)
Donald Trump holding up his notes about an email from Sidney Blumenthal found in Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta's inbox released by WikiLeaks.Screenshot/YouTube
An unverified dossier provided to US intelligence officials alleges that President-elect Donald Trump "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russian intervention in Ukraine during his campaign after Russia promised to feed the emails it stole from prominent Democrats' inboxes to WikiLeaks.
The dossier was part of an opposition-research project conducted by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, at the behest of anti-Trump Republicans and, later, Democrats. Steele was the former head of the Russia desk in Moscow for Britain's Secret Intelligence Service, also known as MI6. The memos he wrote made their way to US intelligence officials sometime last year.
A summary of his findings, collected from the network of Russian intelligence sources he had cultivated, was presented to Trump, President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and the country's top lawmakers on intelligence matters earlier this month as part of a classified briefing about Russia's intervention in the US presidential election.
The dossier's claim about a Ukraine-WikiLeaks quid pro quo alleges that Trump would refrain from speaking forcefully, if at all, during the 2016 presidential campaign about Russia's 2014 incursion into eastern Ukraine. In return, Russia would provide WikiLeaks the documents it stole from the Democratic National Committee.
Throughout the campaign, Trump broke from traditional GOP orthodoxy and established himself as the most sympathetic Republican candidate toward Russia, stressing a need to work with the country on various geopolitical issues.
Trump has not commented on the dossier's specific claims, but he did cite a conservative-leaning news outlet in a tweet Saturday to call the dossier itself a "complete fraud."
From 'lethal weapons' to 'appropriate assistance'
The Washington Post's Josh Rogin reported last year that "the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events" just before the July 18 start of the Republican National Convention to change the language of an amendment to the GOP's draft policy on Ukraine that denounced Russia's "ongoing military aggression" in Ukraine.
The amendment, proposed by GOP delegate Diana Denman at a meeting of the party's national-security subcommittee in Cleveland, called for maintaining and increasing sanctions on Russia in light of the country's annexation of Crimea and incursion into eastern Ukraine in 2014.
It also proposed "providing lethal defensive weapons" to the Ukrainian military to fend off separatist fighters backed by the Kremlin.
After Denman read her amendment aloud at the meeting, two Trump campaign representatives approached the chairman of the committee and asked that the proposal be tabled, Denman told The Daily Beast at the time.
"When I read my amendment, they got up and walked over and talked to the co-chairmen and they read it," she said. "That's when I was told that it was going to be tabled."
Because campaign representatives are not permitted to publicly debate the merits of an amendment at a subcommittee platform meeting, Denman said, the Trump staffers approached her privately and asked her to change the language that called for sending arms to Ukraine.
One of the staffers, J.D. Gordon — then the Trump campaign's national-security policy representative for the RNC — told Business Insider last week that "Ms. Denman's memory of events is inaccurate."
Gordon did not comment on Denman's claim that he had approached her about the amendment privately. But he said he "never left" his "assigned side table, nor spoke publicly at the meeting of delegates during the platform meeting."
The national security subcommittee cochair Steve Yates told The Daily Beast, however, that he was "reasonably sure that the [Trump] campaign staff were in the room and that they gave an opinion" on Ukraine.
"I just can't say for sure what that opinion was," he said.
'This change came from Trump staffers'
After some debate, the platform passed with a provision to "provide appropriate assistance" to the Ukrainian army rather than provide it with "lethal defense weapons."
The debate over the language change was limited, however, because the committee had essentially run out of time to deliberate on the Ukraine platform after it was tabled by Trump's staffers, said a member of the committee present at the meeting who requested anonymity to discuss the deliberations.
The logic of the language change among those who supported it, the member said, was that adding language about arming Ukrainian soldiers would be akin to being open to waging war against Russia.
Gordon, the Trump representative, said that even after the language was altered the platform "still was much tougher on Russia than the Democrat Party Platform." Indeed, the final platform retained much of its tough language on Russia, including its calls to maintain or, if warranted, increase sanctions "until Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored."
ukraine army missiles otr 21 tochka mobile launch system
Ukrainian OTR-21 Tochka-U mobile missile launch systems seen during Ukraine's Independence Day military parade in central Kiev, on August 24.REUTERS/Gleb Garanich
Including the call to send arms to Ukraine would not have been extreme or out of step with GOP orthodoxy on the issue, however.
"The language of the original amendment didn't seem strong," the committee member said. "Denman sent out an email before the meeting saying she was going to propose the amendment at the meeting, and no one replied — or, at least 'replied all' — saying they objected to it. I wrote back quickly saying I fully supported it, actually."
The amendment, the official said, "was controversial if you hold Donald Trump's express views on Russia, but it wasn't controversial with regard to GOP orthodoxy on the issue. So this change on Ukraine definitely came from Trump staffers — not from RNC staffers."
It was particularly surprising, the member added, given the Trump campaign representatives' "relatively hands-off approach" to other parts of the GOP's national-security platform.
That approach seems to have extended to the six other subcommittees tasked with crafting different parts of the GOP platform before the convention. Boyd Matheson, a Utah delegate on the Constitution Subcommittee, told The Daily Beast that the Trump campaign was "nowhere to be seen" during their deliberations.
Gordon, Trump's representative for the national security committee, said that every subcommittee "featured Trump campaign representatives at side tables to monitor the process and facilitate any questions from delegates."
Trump's campaign manager at the time of the convention, Paul Manafort, told MSNBC at the time that the change in the GOP's Ukraine policy "absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign."
Before the GOP's national security committee meeting last July, Trump had said multiple times that he thought the West should respond more forcefully to Russian aggression.
He gave a speech in Ukraine in September 2015, at the Yalta European Strategy Annual Meeting, where he said "our president is not strong and he is not doing what he should be doing for the Ukraine." He mentioned that he thought Europe should be "leading some of the charge" against Russia's aggression, too.
But his tone on Ukraine and Crimea appeared to shift after he hired Manafort to manage his campaign in April 2016, as Politico's Michael Crowley has reported.
At the end of July, for instance, Trump told ABC that "the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Days earlier, he had told reporters that he "would be looking at" the possibility of lifting sanctions against Russia for its annexation of Crimea.
Manafort served as a top adviser to a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine from 2004 to 2012, and he helped the Russia-friendly strongman Viktor Yanukovych win the Ukrainian presidency in 2010.
Yanukovych was ousted on corruption charges in 2014 and fled to Russia under the protection of the Kremlin.
Secret ledgers uncovered by an anticorruption center in Kiev and obtained by The New York Times revealed that Yanukovych's political party, the pro-Russia Party of Regions, earmarked $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments to Manafort for his work from 2007 to 2012.
Manafort has denied ever having collected the earmarked payments. But the unverified dossier on which top US leaders have been briefed alleges that Yanukovych "confided directly to Putin that he authorized kickback payments to Manafort," who "had been commercially active in Ukraine right up to the time (in March 2016) when he joined campaign team."
manafortSerhiy Leshchenko, an investigative journalist turned lawmaker, showing a copy of one of the once secret accounting documents of Ukraine's pro-Kremlin party that were released and purporting to show payments of $12.7 million earmarked for Trump's campaign chairman at the time, Paul Manafort, during a news conference in Kiev on August 19.Efrem Lukatsky/AP
The dossier also alleges that Manafort, who resigned as Trump's campaign manager on August 19, served as a liaison between Trump's campaign team and Russian government officials:
"Speaking in confidence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source E, an ethnic Russian and close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald TRUMP, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was managed on the TRUMP side by the Republican candidate's campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT, who was using foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE, and others as intermediaries. The two sides had a mutual interest in defeating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, whom President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared."
That claim has not been independently verified. The FBI looked into both Page and Manafort last year for their respective ties to Russian officials and business interests.
The same source, "source E," told the author of the dossier that Russia had hacked the DNC and leaked the stolen documents to WikiLeaks "with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team."
Trump invoked WikiLeaks dozens of times on the campaign trail, often reading portions of the stolen and leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee and from Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.
"I love WikiLeaks,"he told listeners during a campaign rally in Pennsylvania in October. "It's amazing how nothing is secret today when you talk about the internet."
The dossier states that in return for Russia's feeding the documents to WikiLeaks, "the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise defense commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for Putin who needed to cauterise the subject."
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has denied that the Russian government provided it with the hacked documents. As Business Insider's Paul Szoldra has written, however, WikiLeaks' website is designed to provide leakers with anonymity even from WikiLeaks itself.
"The site's anonymous drop box keeps no record of who submits documents, does not offer or require any identifying information, and there is no single WikiLeaks employee with the power to unmask an anonymous source," Szoldra wrote. "At least, that's what WikiLeaks claims."
Hey JC? Care to connect the dots? Or are you still working that Pizzagate puzzle?
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