Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • ^^^
    The accusations are just as bizarre.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    Trump logic and 95% BS.

    If you really think Obama was the same as Bush, well, I can see why you voted for Trump.
  • dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    Trump logic and 95% BS.

    If you really think Obama was the same as Bush, well, I can see why you voted for Trump.
    Tell that to Joe the Plumber. Or remind Sarah Palin.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,582
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    he hired a good forger for his birth certificate. good thing
  • vaggar99 said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    ok, I'm just trying to think of this objectively. do we honestly, in all seriousness, really believe that President Tweet and his entire team is really this stupid, and is being manipulated by Putin?

    Yes. I really do.

    If you don't, you may have missed his whole campaign.
    no, I paid close attention. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    think about the daily life of a president. as president what risks do they really have to take and what is the reward, punishment? what risks did obama take? he followed and or expanded 95% of what bush did, plus pushed for disastrous health insurance reform. bush was a total disaster, and what happened, nothing. if bush can be the president for 8 years, and obama follow, anybody can be president. reagan, was also a celebrity/actor/president and he is considered to be the best president ever behind washington. take down that wall to build that wall.
    So you put Obama in the same category as Bush ? Is there one thing Obama did that you consider a good thing ?
    he hired a good forger for his birth certificate. good thing
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    FBI had Trump-Russia report in summer 2016, Senate to investigate

    Rachel Maddow shares a new report that the FBI had the unverified Trump-Russia dossier in the summer of 2016 but said nothing while instead talking openly about the ultimately fruitless Clinton investigation.


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/fbi-had-trump-russia-report-in-summer-2016-senate-to-investigate-854849603559
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    This gets better by the day lol
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    JC29856 said:

    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

    image

    What's the relevance here?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Back on track.

    Trump team in ‘frequent contact’ with Russia despite denying call with Moscow over sanctions
    Washington worries as Trump paves way for stronger ties with Putin

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-michael-flynn-russia-us-sergey-kislyak-a7527111.html
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

    image

    The women's group that is marching on DC in protest of trumps inauguration received $225k from the Hungarian American philanthropist.
    I guess you didn't find my comment funny?
    Did you know it's reported that the Hungarian American philanthropist lost $1B betting for the market to crash post trump election? That's this much $1,000,000,000! That's allot of pearl jam tickets, pj merchandise, food, drinks and private jetting to PJ shows.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    If I just lost $1B betting against the US stock market, I would find the $10k to get the extra set of testicles surgically removed beneath my eyes.

    image

    The women's group that is marching on DC in protest of trumps inauguration received $225k from the Hungarian American philanthropist.
    I guess you didn't find my comment funny?
    Did you know it's reported that the Hungarian American philanthropist lost $1B betting for the market to crash post trump election? That's this much $1,000,000,000! That's allot of pearl jam tickets, pj merchandise, food, drinks and private jetting to PJ shows.
    He's a naturalized American. I like how you try to position it like he is lesser because he was born somewhere else.

    "Allot" isn't a word in this context.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    To be fair here's Rick Wilson's story and he is sticking to it. Other reporters have verified that they too received the info from trsprudence.
    Apparently Rick Wilson son has the fetish. "Make her drink it all!"

    https://medium.com/@therickwilson/fool-chan-e97fba24384f#.gls12dgh5
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    JC29856 said:
    Three ... "3" ... "Reality" checks! That's like science

    dude needs to find a better tie shop


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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    Let's ignore for a moment that the "dossier" wasn't intel but a rumor started by someone trolling Rick Wilson,
    Our cia director Brennan who once lied thru his veneers to congress about spying on Americans tells Chris Wallace that the information contained in the "dossier" was in the public fo

    It was public information for months, our cia chief said, Brennan

    I'm easily duped but I think Mr Brennan's and the public's understanding of "public information" are vastly different.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    January 03, 2017 - 10:00 PM EST
    Schumer: Trump 'really dumb' for attacking intelligence agencies
    "Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.


    Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him
    By Evan Perez, Jim Sciutto, Jake Tapper and Carl Bernstein, CNN
    Original Tue January 10, 2017
    Updated 5:26 PM EST, Thu January 12, 2017
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    JC29856 said:

    Let's ignore for a moment that the "dossier" wasn't intel but a rumor started by someone trolling Rick Wilson,
    Our cia director Brennan who once lied thru his veneers to congress about spying on Americans tells Chris Wallace that the information contained in the "dossier" was in the public fo

    It was public information for months, our cia chief said, Brennan

    I'm easily duped but I think Mr Brennan's and the public's understanding of "public information" are vastly different.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8CxyQx4zE
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    It was widely reported and plainly obvious that the Trump team had the language condemning Russia removed during the platform deliberations. Most people thought it was Manafort and his ties that was driving that and Trump was just aloof to the whole situation. The accusation that it was part of a deal with Russia should surprise no one at this point.
  • Yea, remember Manafort? Follow. The. Money.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Golden showers fill your eyes
    Smells await when you rise

    dcpols.com/bbc-many-sources-confirm-the-golden-shower-story/
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Don't denigrate the CIA, impossible a Twitter troll started golden shower gate...Brennan was hacked by a 16 year old.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12154592/British-teenager-suspected-of-being-a-mystery-hacker-who-stole-CIA-boss-emails.html
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    edited January 2017
    Top Senate Democrat Says Russian Hacks, Disinformation Influenced Election Outcome

    by Alexandra Jaffe, NBC News
    A top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee said she believes Russia tried to interfere in the election and that their activity ultimately altered the outcome.

    "The answer is yes on both cases," California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said when asked on NBC's "Meet the Press."

    "I've had all of the major classified briefings. I have been astonished at what has been a two-year effort [at] Russia to spearfish, to hack, to provide disinformation, propaganda wherever it really could. And I think this has been a very sophisticated effort," Feinstein added.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee announced Friday it will investigate the involvement of Russian actors in the U.S. election, "including any intelligence regarding links between Russia and individuals associated with political campaigns." President-elect Donald Trump's critics have long raised questions about his friendly campaign rhetoric toward Russian President Vladimir Putin and a number of his top adviser's ties to Russia, though none of the intelligence community's statements or reports on Russian actions during the election suggest a link between the two.

    When asked if the committee would examine any specific allegations that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russian actors, Feinstein said, "That hasn't been discussed and I really can't answer that question right now."

    A declassified intelligence report on Russian involvement in the election released earlier this month does proclaim that "Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency." The report does not, however, assess whether Russia was successful in achieving its goals, and Trump and his allies have argued that though Russia may have been involved in the election, their actions ultimately didn't impact the outcome.

    She said she hopes the ongoing investigation into Russia's interference in the election to be "full and robust," but if it isn't, both she and Sen. Mark Warner, vice-chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, will call for an independent panel to investigate the situation.

    "I'm certainly not gonna leave this in limbo, because this is the future of America, it's the future of democracy. And if we can't carry out an election without disinformation being pumped into it by another country, we've got a huge destruction of our system going on so we have to — we have to be full and robust in this look," she said.

    Feinstein also said she believes the FBI's announcement in late October of finding new emails that could be related to the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server — which Feinstein called an "October surprise" — "did have an impact" on the outcome of the election. Clinton's advisers have said their internal polling showed them winning the election prior to the announcement, and that their numbers tanked following.

    But Feinstein wouldn't go so far as to call for FBI Director James Comey to resign.

    "I think that's a decision to come when everybody learns much more about what drove this," she said.

    She did say, however, that the Justice Department Inspector General's investigation into the FBI's handling of the case would be "critical" in deciding Comey's fate "because there are rumors of all kinds of conflicts within the FBI that have focused on the director."
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    Dianne Feinstein has Americans and democracy at heart!!!

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/summary.php?cid=N00007364&year=2014

    She sure holds "allot" of defense stocks. Might explain why there hasn't been 1 vote by any congress person authorizing the bombing of 7 countries in the last 8 years.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/assets.php?year=2014&cid=N00007364
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    ^^^
    yeah, she's rich and probably scum. but, i don't think she's been influenced by our enemies?
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