This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
It really is something. I can only shake my head at the mental back-flips some people have to do to make all this okay.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
Which proves my point that some don't really care about Russia's actions at all. It's phony outrage.
No, it doesnt prove a point. It shows you have a warped sense of your political history. And your complete lack of understanding of Sarah palin.
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If Russia hacked the election we should know about it.
If they hacked emails and released them than they do nothing different than what the US does. We freaking bugged the German chancelor. This shit happens all the time and all these countries including us pretend to be shocked when they blatantly do the same thing. How many elections has the US government influenced over the years?
So yes, we should understand what the Russians did and push back somehow. The American people just need to be smart. Nothing in the Wikileaks was untrue so I don't see why there should be a re-vote.
Should the CIA be reviewing the MSM too? They influenced the election just as much as any foreign country.
If your an American and have no problem with a foreign country having any involvement in the election process of our president , than im not sure you're thinking with out your partisan glasses on ! This is not about who won or lost Bafoon is the president elect but to sit here and say it's not a big deal is absurd ..
If your an American and have no problem with a foreign country having any involvement in the election process of our president , than im not sure you're thinking with out your partisan glasses on ! This is not about who won or lost Bafoon is the president elect but to sit here and say it's not a big deal is absurd ..
Putin wanted regime change here, big deal, happens all the time.
If your an American and have no problem with a foreign country having any involvement in the election process of our president , than im not sure you're thinking with out your partisan glasses on ! This is not about who won or lost Bafoon is the president elect but to sit here and say it's not a big deal is absurd ..
Putin wanted regime change here, big deal, happens all the time.
The fools are afraid of Shariah law infiltrating our country but have no problem with Russia meddling in our election process is ok ? Regan stated tear down the wall not c'mon over and help us elect the president !
If your an American and have no problem with a foreign country having any involvement in the election process of our president , than im not sure you're thinking with out your partisan glasses on ! This is not about who won or lost Bafoon is the president elect but to sit here and say it's not a big deal is absurd ..
Putin wanted regime change here, big deal, happens all the time.
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"Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyber-attacks," incoming Democratic leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.), Armed Services Committee Chairman and Ranking Member John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a joint statement.
Should the CIA be reviewing the MSM too? They influenced the election just as much as any foreign country.
This is an example of a mental back-flip.
Bullshit.
Maybe the biggest back-flip yet.
Comparing the work media does to a foreign government hacking organizations to affect the outcome of an election? Really?
They aren't in the same league...not even the same sport. Bullshit indeed.
I usually don't respond like that but you ignored the rest of my post where I did say we should investigate and push back against Russia. I just don't think that we should re-do the election if the only thing Russia did was release true information (although one-sided). If they hacked results that is a different story. Again, Russia did nothing the USA doesn't do everyday and twice on Sunday. We would all praise the CIA if they were able to influence that murderer Putin losing in re-election.
But Fox News and WashPo work very hard to dig dirt on the Dems and Reps, respectively, and clearly are not fair and balanced. So we should prevent foreign countries' influence but it is nothing new and it is one of just the many things people view when determining who to select.
"Mr. Trump has split on the issue with many Republicans on the congressional intelligence committees, who have said they were presented with significant evidence, in closed briefings, of a Russian campaign to meddle in the election."
"At this point in a transition, a president-elect is usually delving into intelligence he has never before seen, and learning about C.I.A. and National Security Agency abilities. But Mr. Trump, who has taken intelligence briefings only sporadically, is questioning not only analytic conclusions, but also their underlying facts.
“To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions — wow,” said Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the N.S.A. and later the C.I.A. under President George W. Bush."
"Mr. Trump has split on the issue with many Republicans on the congressional intelligence committees, who have said they were presented with significant evidence, in closed briefings, of a Russian campaign to meddle in the election."
"At this point in a transition, a president-elect is usually delving into intelligence he has never before seen, and learning about C.I.A. and National Security Agency abilities. But Mr. Trump, who has taken intelligence briefings only sporadically, is questioning not only analytic conclusions, but also their underlying facts.
“To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions — wow,” said Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the N.S.A. and later the C.I.A. under President George W. Bush."
"Mr. Trump has split on the issue with many Republicans on the congressional intelligence committees, who have said they were presented with significant evidence, in closed briefings, of a Russian campaign to meddle in the election."
"At this point in a transition, a president-elect is usually delving into intelligence he has never before seen, and learning about C.I.A. and National Security Agency abilities. But Mr. Trump, who has taken intelligence briefings only sporadically, is questioning not only analytic conclusions, but also their underlying facts.
“To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions — wow,” said Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the N.S.A. and later the C.I.A. under President George W. Bush."
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Because Sister Sarah could see Russia from her porch? Makes sense.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
Which proves my point that some don't really care about Russia's actions at all. It's phony outrage.
No, it doesnt prove a point. It shows you have a warped sense of your political history. And your complete lack of understanding of Sarah palin.
No. The democratic party and the progressives on the amt have been downplaying the russian threat since the 2008 election. McCain and Palin discussed this threat, Romney discussed this threat and most of you just laughed. Now out of nowhere everybody is horrified by Russian behaviour only because of how it related to the election of Donald Trump. The outrage is phony and the hollowness of the progressive concern on this issue is laid out for all too see.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Because Sister Sarah could see Russia from her porch? Makes sense.
Tina Fey said that but I understand how most of you have trouble separating the two.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
Which proves my point that some don't really care about Russia's actions at all. It's phony outrage.
No, it doesnt prove a point. It shows you have a warped sense of your political history. And your complete lack of understanding of Sarah palin.
No. The democratic party and the progressives on the amt have been downplaying the russian threat since the 2008 election. McCain and Palin discussed this threat, Romney discussed this threat and most of you just laughed. Now out of nowhere everybody is horrified by Russian behaviour only because of how it related to the election of Donald Trump. The outrage is phony and the hollowness of the progressive concern on this issue is laid out for all too see.
What are you talking about the fucking CIA released its findings its stated that Russia meddled in our election process are you ok with that ? Bafoon is the president elect he will get his chance to govern ! No one is calling to take away the presidency from Bafoon..
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
Which proves my point that some don't really care about Russia's actions at all. It's phony outrage.
No, it doesnt prove a point. It shows you have a warped sense of your political history. And your complete lack of understanding of Sarah palin.
No. The democratic party and the progressives on the amt have been downplaying the russian threat since the 2008 election. McCain and Palin discussed this threat, Romney discussed this threat and most of you just laughed. Now out of nowhere everybody is horrified by Russian behaviour only because of how it related to the election of Donald Trump. The outrage is phony and the hollowness of the progressive concern on this issue is laid out for all too see.
What are you talking about the fucking CIA released its findings its stated that Russia meddled in our election process are you ok with that ? Bafoon is the president elect he will get his chance to govern ! No one is calling to take away the presidency from Bafoon..
The CIA did not release it's "findings". It's "findings" were leaked and reported on. The "findings" so far don't say that Russia proper "meddled in the election process". That might all eventually turn out to be true but it is not verified to be true right now. Read the Glenn Greenwald link I posted earlier...he is no alt-right reporter.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Most of what you just said here is laughable. Especially the Sarah Palin part. Good stuff there.
Which proves my point that some don't really care about Russia's actions at all. It's phony outrage.
No, it doesnt prove a point. It shows you have a warped sense of your political history. And your complete lack of understanding of Sarah palin.
No. The democratic party and the progressives on the amt have been downplaying the russian threat since the 2008 election. McCain and Palin discussed this threat, Romney discussed this threat and most of you just laughed. Now out of nowhere everybody is horrified by Russian behaviour only because of how it related to the election of Donald Trump. The outrage is phony and the hollowness of the progressive concern on this issue is laid out for all too see.
Ok, so the outrage from the left is hollow & phony etc. I get your point.
What about the Russian threat that McCain & Palin & Romney warned us about? Does is still exist, or did it go away?
Shouldn't we be concerned about an administration that might be very cozy with a govt the GOP has been warning us about for years? Or are we obligated to STFU because the left didn't take it seriously in years past?
The alarming response to Russian meddling in American democracy
Some may wonder if this latest squabble matters. There is no evidence of actual collusion between Mr Trump and Russia. Mr Putin’s fierce dislike of Mrs Clinton, who as secretary of state questioned the validity of the 2011 elections in Russia, is more than enough motive to want her defeated. It is unknowable whether the last-minute leaks of Democratic e-mails affected the result. Most straightforwardly, a close election is over and Democratic leaders are not questioning the result.
This squabble does matter. When the next president of America takes his oath of office in January, officers of Russian intelligence can savour a historic win. And that astonishing, appalling fact has divided, not united, the two parties that run the world’s great democracy. That should be enough to unsettle anyone.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Because Sister Sarah could see Russia from her porch? Makes sense.
Tina Fey said that but I understand how most of you have trouble separating the two.
Actually, Sarah Palin stated in an interview that physically being so close to Russia was a benefit to her national security credentials and that she was so close to Russia that she could see it from her house. Tina Fey then mocked the quote.
This whole thread concept is something else. Asking others for information to prove them right. It's bass ackwards
Since you don't think it happened, it shouldn't be investigated or discussed? Ok. Makes sense.
I'm ok with it being investigated. I am also okay with everybody finally admitting that Obama and Hillary's Russian reset was an epic failire. I am also ok with everybody admitting that Romney was right in the 2012 debates and that Obama and all those who laughed at his "the 1980's called" joke were horribly wrong. I am also ok with everybody coming to terms with the fact that even Sarah Palin had a better understanding of Putin then the Obama/Clinton foreign policy team. After all the investigation will have to also figure out how who was minding the store while the Russian's penetrated everything. Was it simply the case of poor cyber-defenses or was there negligence in the setting up of unprotected servers that unwittingly gave access through a back door? These questions will have to be answered and both those responsible for the hack and those who failed in protecting the system will need to be punished.
Because Sister Sarah could see Russia from her porch? Makes sense.
Tina Fey said that but I understand how most of you have trouble separating the two.
Actually, Sarah Palin stated in an interview that physically being so close to Russia was a benefit to her national security credentials and that she was so close to Russia that she could see it from her house. Tina Fey then mocked the quote.
According to this link, she didn't say those words verbatim:
"The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska": "
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If they hacked emails and released them than they do nothing different than what the US does. We freaking bugged the German chancelor. This shit happens all the time and all these countries including us pretend to be shocked when they blatantly do the same thing. How many elections has the US government influenced over the years?
So yes, we should understand what the Russians did and push back somehow. The American people just need to be smart. Nothing in the Wikileaks was untrue so I don't see why there should be a re-vote.
Should the CIA be reviewing the MSM too? They influenced the election just as much as any foreign country.
Comparing the work media does to a foreign government hacking organizations to affect the outcome of an election? Really?
They aren't in the same league...not even the same sport. Bullshit indeed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/807796411316178944
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyber-attacks," incoming Democratic leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.), Armed Services Committee Chairman and Ranking Member John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a joint statement.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democratic-gop-senators-russian-hacking-cannot-become-a-partisan-issue-232475
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But Fox News and WashPo work very hard to dig dirt on the Dems and Reps, respectively, and clearly are not fair and balanced. So we should prevent foreign countries' influence but it is nothing new and it is one of just the many things people view when determining who to select.
"Mr. Trump has split on the issue with many Republicans on the congressional intelligence committees, who have said they were presented with significant evidence, in closed briefings, of a Russian campaign to meddle in the election."
"At this point in a transition, a president-elect is usually delving into intelligence he has never before seen, and learning about C.I.A. and National Security Agency abilities. But Mr. Trump, who has taken intelligence briefings only sporadically, is questioning not only analytic conclusions, but also their underlying facts.
“To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions — wow,” said Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the N.S.A. and later the C.I.A. under President George W. Bush."
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/
Is it ok to be concerned, or am I still supposed to be in the "give him a chance" phase?
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What about the Russian threat that McCain & Palin & Romney warned us about? Does is still exist, or did it go away?
Shouldn't we be concerned about an administration that might be very cozy with a govt the GOP has been warning us about for years? Or are we obligated to STFU because the left didn't take it seriously in years past?
PLEASE keep playing footsie with Putin so we can get this Trump character out in 4 years
Some may wonder if this latest squabble matters. There is no evidence of actual collusion between Mr Trump and Russia. Mr Putin’s fierce dislike of Mrs Clinton, who as secretary of state questioned the validity of the 2011 elections in Russia, is more than enough motive to want her defeated. It is unknowable whether the last-minute leaks of Democratic e-mails affected the result. Most straightforwardly, a close election is over and Democratic leaders are not questioning the result.
This squabble does matter. When the next president of America takes his oath of office in January, officers of Russian intelligence can savour a historic win. And that astonishing, appalling fact has divided, not united, the two parties that run the world’s great democracy. That should be enough to unsettle anyone.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2016/12/house-divided?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
Tina Fey then mocked the quote.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
"The basis for the line was Governor Palin's 11 September 2008 appearance on ABC News, her first major interview after being tapped as the vice-presidential nominee. During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska": "
http://www.snopes.com/Politics/palin/russia.asp
Apparently Tina Fey did coin the phrase involving 'her house'.