Ohio State attack

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    This will probably draw lots of nay-sayers, but I'll throw out there the possibility that this is related to an episode of psychosis. He is exactly the right age for a psychotic break, this is an odd sort of attack if it is primarily terror-related, and he isn't reported to have posted anything before hand or said anything during the attack.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    oftenreading said:

    This will probably draw lots of nay-sayers, but I'll throw out there the possibility that this is related to an episode of psychosis. He is exactly the right age for a psychotic break, this is an odd sort of attack if it is primarily terror-related, and he isn't reported to have posted anything before hand or said anything during the attack.

    If the guy was white, that would already be the conclusion.
  • unsung
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    pickupyourwill said:

    Okay, so I should probably sleep on this before I write, but what the hell.

    My initial reaction to this news is utter shock and horror for the victims and the terror spread. It happened only just over an hour away from me. No wonder its been raining all day with dark skies, and it feels like someone killed Santa. I feel for my fellow Ohioans. I don't like to see people suffer. I even cheered them on against Michigan this past Saturday and that's the first college football game I've watched in years.

    But, on a side note, karma is a bitch. If you had to drive past as many Trump signs as I have in the past year.....just sayin'. My heart goes out to em', but what goes around comes around. I think I'll just bite my tongue on this subject for now. I've already said too much, me thinks.

    That is bad.
  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    pickupyourwill said:

    Okay, so I should probably sleep on this before I write, but what the hell.

    My initial reaction to this news is utter shock and horror for the victims and the terror spread. It happened only just over an hour away from me. No wonder its been raining all day with dark skies, and it feels like someone killed Santa. I feel for my fellow Ohioans. I don't like to see people suffer. I even cheered them on against Michigan this past Saturday and that's the first college football game I've watched in years.

    But, on a side note, karma is a bitch. If you had to drive past as many Trump signs as I have in the past year.....just sayin'. My heart goes out to em', but what goes around comes around. I think I'll just bite my tongue on this subject for now. I've already said too much, me thinks.

    Not sure what your reference to karma is a bitch is about.
    I hope it isn't that there are so many Trump supporters that deserved attack.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    oftenreading said:

    This will probably draw lots of nay-sayers, but I'll throw out there the possibility that this is related to an episode of psychosis. He is exactly the right age for a psychotic break, this is an odd sort of attack if it is primarily terror-related, and he isn't reported to have posted anything before hand or said anything during the attack.

    From The Daily Beast:

    "NBC News's Pete Williams reported on-air that Artan made a Facebook post lamenting the treatment of Muslims worldwide just before the attack on Monday morning. "I am sick and tired of seeing [Muslims] killed & tortured EVERYWHERE. ... I can’t take it anymore," the posting read, according to ABC News. "America! Stop interfering with other countries ... [if] you want us Muslims to stop carrying [out] lone wolf attacks."
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    jeffbr said:

    oftenreading said:

    This will probably draw lots of nay-sayers, but I'll throw out there the possibility that this is related to an episode of psychosis. He is exactly the right age for a psychotic break, this is an odd sort of attack if it is primarily terror-related, and he isn't reported to have posted anything before hand or said anything during the attack.

    From The Daily Beast:

    "NBC News's Pete Williams reported on-air that Artan made a Facebook post lamenting the treatment of Muslims worldwide just before the attack on Monday morning. "I am sick and tired of seeing [Muslims] killed & tortured EVERYWHERE. ... I can’t take it anymore," the posting read, according to ABC News. "America! Stop interfering with other countries ... [if] you want us Muslims to stop carrying [out] lone wolf attacks."
    Okay. I had just done a quick search and the sources I looked at said nothing was posted.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    We end up with refugees anyway. Including the guy who is the topic of this thread.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    We end up with refugees anyway. Including the guy who is the topic of this thread.
    Saying "anyway" suggests the alternative presented has been tried so you can compare the two outcomes. I don't think the alternative has been tried.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    We end up with refugees anyway. Including the guy who is the topic of this thread.
    Saying "anyway" suggests the alternative presented has been tried so you can compare the two outcomes. I don't think the alternative has been tried.
    What alternative are you talking about? The suggestion was that withholding all foreign aid and closing military bases would lead to refugees. I said that refugees exist anyway. Perhaps I should have said already. The alternative is what we're currently doing. Foreign aid and military bases. Is there a different alternative you assume I was implying?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    jeffbr said:

    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    We end up with refugees anyway. Including the guy who is the topic of this thread.
    Saying "anyway" suggests the alternative presented has been tried so you can compare the two outcomes. I don't think the alternative has been tried.
    What alternative are you talking about? The suggestion was that withholding all foreign aid and closing military bases would lead to refugees. I said that refugees exist anyway. Perhaps I should have said already. The alternative is what we're currently doing. Foreign aid and military bases. Is there a different alternative you assume I was implying?
    I was emphasizing you saying anyway. We haven't cut foreign aid and closed military bases. Someone responded that if we did, we'd have more refugees. Do you think there would be more, or the amount would be the same?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    Go Beavers said:

    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    We end up with refugees anyway. Including the guy who is the topic of this thread.
    Saying "anyway" suggests the alternative presented has been tried so you can compare the two outcomes. I don't think the alternative has been tried.
    What alternative are you talking about? The suggestion was that withholding all foreign aid and closing military bases would lead to refugees. I said that refugees exist anyway. Perhaps I should have said already. The alternative is what we're currently doing. Foreign aid and military bases. Is there a different alternative you assume I was implying?
    I was emphasizing you saying anyway. We haven't cut foreign aid and closed military bases. Someone responded that if we did, we'd have more refugees. Do you think there would be more, or the amount would be the same?
    Probably more. Quantity wasn't something that was being discussed until you just interjected it.
    So you are in favor of a continuation of our current role in the Middle East, then?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited November 2016
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    This is how you end up with refugees.
    True to an extent. There are ways of stopping that too.

    Besides, bombing these countries is creating the refugees.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,779
    unsung said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter/index.html

    Not surprised it hasn't been mentioned but a good guy with a gun stopped a mass assault today.

    Must have been another one of those "peaceful" somali muslims again.

    yeah. campus police officer.
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  • mickeyrat
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    oftenreading said:

    This will probably draw lots of nay-sayers, but I'll throw out there the possibility that this is related to an episode of psychosis. He is exactly the right age for a psychotic break, this is an odd sort of attack if it is primarily terror-related, and he isn't reported to have posted anything before hand or said anything during the attack.

    my wife is a psych nurse. said many of his age are ripe for schizophrenic breaks. that when this occurs their delusions are far more horrific in nature. its compounded by the community or culture that help or medications isnt sought.

    no way to tell from the morgue though.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    pickupyourwill said:

    Okay, so I should probably sleep on this before I write, but what the hell.

    My initial reaction to this news is utter shock and horror for the victims and the terror spread. It happened only just over an hour away from me. No wonder its been raining all day with dark skies, and it feels like someone killed Santa. I feel for my fellow Ohioans. I don't like to see people suffer. I even cheered them on against Michigan this past Saturday and that's the first college football game I've watched in years.

    But, on a side note, karma is a bitch. If you had to drive past as many Trump signs as I have in the past year.....just sayin'. My heart goes out to em', but what goes around comes around. I think I'll just bite my tongue on this subject for now. I've already said too much, me thinks.

    Saying the victims deserved this because of who your president elect is, is biting your tongue???

    Yowza.

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  • josevolution
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    unsung said:

    Well he has a point, it is called blowback. I wish the US would close every single base across the globe, stop all foreign aid, then let them solve their own problems.

    Yeah I agree I just don't ever see that happening ! As long as we support Israel ..
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  • unsung
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    Idiot.

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  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    pickupyourwill said:

    Okay, so I should probably sleep on this before I write, but what the hell.

    My initial reaction to this news is utter shock and horror for the victims and the terror spread. It happened only just over an hour away from me. No wonder its been raining all day with dark skies, and it feels like someone killed Santa. I feel for my fellow Ohioans. I don't like to see people suffer. I even cheered them on against Michigan this past Saturday and that's the first college football game I've watched in years.

    But, on a side note, karma is a bitch. If you had to drive past as many Trump signs as I have in the past year.....just sayin'. My heart goes out to em', but what goes around comes around. I think I'll just bite my tongue on this subject for now. I've already said too much, me thinks.

    Saying the victims deserved this because of who your president elect is, is biting your tongue???

    Yowza.

    Of course they didn't deserve it. Only Hitler and company deserves something like that. Hate and terror are never the answer to anything. It is sad this young man thought this was the only way to express his frustrations with the world. He definitely made a statement in an important location, but lives should never be taken or injured in order to do that. Of course, some of the war-happy Republicans will say that so many people died for our country in a traditional war-form, yet they won't ever acknowledge some of those from ISIS dying for the causes they believe in. Many of them just see it as terror and chaos, yet they aren't understanding why some of these people are so upset with us. Say what you will about Hillary Clinton, but I remember her and some U.N. officials at one time really trying to understand the enemy and empathize with them. We need understanding and communication, not borders and bombing the hell out of each other all over again. But try telling that to some of these traditional baby boomers that won't see it any other way.

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