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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Keep pointing the finger...

    Another nonsense answer.
    Keep on deflecting, man.
    Got any other brilliant words of wisdom?

    Why would you expect or want Clinton to be in the mix? It's time for her to retire. There's nothing else for her to do. She's 70 and holds no elected office. You bitch and moan that Dems need to move on from the moderate wing.. from the Third Way... and then you wonder where she is. What the fuck do you want? It appears you just want to bitch.
    And all you want to do is blame everyone else for the problems that your candidate had, which led to her losing the election because she rather blame Trump and blame Russia and blame everyone else for her problems but herself and her campaign.

    You are no better than she is when you can't look within as to why she lost.

    Keep blaming, it's what you do best. never ever admit that you make mistakes and that you were wrong. Because that would mean you're human.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Keep pointing the finger...

    Another nonsense answer.
    Keep on deflecting, man.
    Got any other brilliant words of wisdom?

    Why would you expect or want Clinton to be in the mix? It's time for her to retire. There's nothing else for her to do. She's 70 and holds no elected office. You bitch and moan that Dems need to move on from the moderate wing.. from the Third Way... and then you wonder where she is. What the fuck do you want? It appears you just want to bitch.
    And all you want to do is blame everyone else for the problems that your candidate had, which led to her losing the election because she rather blame Trump and blame Russia and blame everyone else for her problems but herself and her campaign.

    You are no better than she is when you can't look within as to why she lost.

    Keep blaming, it's what you do best. never ever admit that you make mistakes and that you were wrong. Because that would mean you're human.
    Where did I blame anyone/everyone? Please show me. But are you saying that I blame Trump for beating Clinton? Uh yeah.. And I blame Clinton for beating Sanders. And I blame Obama for beating Romney.
    I'm not sure how you view the world, but I have this perception that you read things in other places and apply them broadly. So because some people blame the Russians or whatever, ergo every Clinton voter blames the Russians.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    ^^^
    Actually President Trump took it further and called the people in your country amazing and incredible.
    “It’s been an amazing process,” Mr. Trump told Fox News. “It’s been a beautiful process. The people of this country are incredible. I’ve been all over the country, met the people at every level. I’ve met the people at every level and they are amazing. So that’s really the thing. I think when people ask what have you learned? That’s what I’ve learned. The people of this country are amazing.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/8/donald-trump-ultimatum-americans-incredible-amazin/
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,876

    ^^^
    Actually President Trump took it further and called the people in your amazing and incredible.
    “It’s been an amazing process,” Mr. Trump told Fox News. “It’s been a beautiful process. The people of this country are incredible. I’ve been all over the country, met the people at every level. I’ve met the people at every level and they are amazing. So that’s really the thing. I think when people ask what have you learned? That’s what I’ve learned. The people of this country are amazing.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/8/donald-trump-ultimatum-americans-incredible-amazin/

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,358
    Free said:

    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.

    Hillary is no longer a Senator. She holds no office.

    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville
    2003: Noblesville
    2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville
    2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago
    2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    edited January 2017
    Free said:

    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.

    What did he admit to being wrong about? HRC admitted she was wrong in the BK bill and Iraq. Although I agree with the reform bill myself.

    Did he admit to being wrong about the crime bill? What about the gun maker liability?
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.

    What did he admit to being wrong about? HRC admitted she was wrong in the BK bill and Iraq. Although I agree with the reform bill myself.

    Did he admit to being wrong about the crime bill? What about the gun maker liability?
    You will never get it. Just keep on pointing and blaming.
    Post edited by Free on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Getting back to the Dem party, I read somewhere that the DNC is filling it's positions with Hilliary staffers. Its interesting to see if the entire campaign was filled with failures which I doubt or if it was only the few at the helm.
    Is it a good idea to staff the dnc with Hilliary staffers in the first place? Where are the Bernie staffers that were mocked and ignored by Hills campaign?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/312529-dnc-adds-former-clinton-staffers-for-trump-war-room
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Getting back to the Dem party, I read somewhere that the DNC is filling it's positions with Hilliary staffers. Its interesting to see if the entire campaign was filled with failures which I doubt or if it was only the few at the helm.
    Is it a good idea to staff the dnc with Hilliary staffers in the first place? Where are the Bernie staffers that were mocked and ignored by Hills campaign?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/312529-dnc-adds-former-clinton-staffers-for-trump-war-room

    The Dem party is doomed to repeat its past failures if that's true. God help the US. :tired_face:
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.

    What did he admit to being wrong about? HRC admitted she was wrong in the BK bill and Iraq. Although I agree with the reform bill myself.

    Did he admit to being wrong about the crime bill? What about the gun maker liability?
    You will never get it. Just keep on pointing and blaming.
    So you don't know or can't articulate it. Got it.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Getting back to the Dem party, I read somewhere that the DNC is filling it's positions with Hilliary staffers. Its interesting to see if the entire campaign was filled with failures which I doubt or if it was only the few at the helm.
    Is it a good idea to staff the dnc with Hilliary staffers in the first place? Where are the Bernie staffers that were mocked and ignored by Hills campaign?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/312529-dnc-adds-former-clinton-staffers-for-trump-war-room

    The Dem party is doomed to repeat its past failures if that's true. God help the US. :tired_face:
    Why do u care? Aren't you a socialist democrat?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    :whistle:

    Mrussell's own words from his boss:

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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Or was it this. Either way, smell ya later.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    Free said:

    Or was it this. Either way, smell ya later.

    image

    It's not what I said. I said there is an old saying that I think about at work.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,760
    But I'm glad it resonated with you! It's a good saying that is useful. Here's another one you should think about when Trump is in office and you're wondering what the hell is going on in this country...

    Sometimes great is the enemy of good.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,864
    mrussel1 said:

    But I'm glad it resonated with you! It's a good saying that is useful. Here's another one you should think about when Trump is in office and you're wondering what the hell is going on in this country...

    Sometimes great is the enemy of good.

    :clap:
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,020
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    Sanders not only admits that he's wrong, he actually apologizes. How dare he look weak and show a wounded ego. Perhaps he does it for the people; he actually relates with them, not only having solutions but fighting for them still. And he doesn't stop. He said it several times: "It is not about him, it is about the people of this country." Something Clinton has never uttered. Something most in the Democratic nor Republican party has ever said.

    ... and he still on Senate working for the actual people of this country, when Hillary only worked for her big banks and corporate interests.

    What did he admit to being wrong about? HRC admitted she was wrong in the BK bill and Iraq. Although I agree with the reform bill myself.

    Did he admit to being wrong about the crime bill? What about the gun maker liability?
    You will never get it. Just keep on pointing and blaming.
    how is this pointing and blaming? he asked you fair questions, which you seem to have refused to answer and keep on with your hate on for hillary when no one is sitting here supporting her anymore. there's nothing TO support. she's done. we have all moved on. why can't you?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    ...and he's absolutely right.

    Bernie Sanders Says Trump Won Because Democrats Are Out Of Touch


    http://www.npr.org/2017/01/06/508385203/bernie-sanders-says-trump-won-because-democrats-are-out-of-touch?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=politics&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews
    ..."Look, you can't simply go around to wealthy people's homes raising money and expect to win elections," the Vermont senator, who gave Clinton a surprisingly strong run for the Democratic nomination, told NPR's David Greene in an interview airing on Morning Edition. "You've got to go out and mix it up and be with ordinary people."

    That picks up on a criticism of Clinton devoting too much time to fundraising — and not enough to on-the-ground campaigning in traditionally Democratic states, like Michigan and Wisconsin. In the general election, Clinton never visited Wisconsin after she became the nominee and visited Michigan late in the game. The two Upper Midwestern states swung narrowly to Trump: Wisconsin by slightly more than 20,000 votes and Michigan by slightly more than 10,000. During the primary, Sanders boasted of his small-donor donations.

    "The Democratic Party swallowed the bait," he argued. "They became hooked on big money."

    The Vermont senator added that he believes Democrats have lost touch with the needs of everyday Americans.

    "I happen to believe that the Democratic Party has been not doing a good job in terms of communicating with people in cities, in towns and in rural America, all over this country," he said.

    Some have blamed Sanders, in part, however for Clinton's loss. Young voters were drawn to his campaign, but many chose a third-party candidate in the general election. Although Sanders campaigned for Clinton, at times he had a hard time voicing full-throated support for her.

    The kind of harsh criticism he leveled of Clinton on her Wall Street speeches and decrying her as part of the status quo, rather than building up her beliefs and policies (that certainly stand in stark contrast to Donald Trump) has irked party loyalists.

    That's especially true, considering that although Sanders ran in the Democratic primary and caucuses with Democrats, he has declined to put the "D" next to his name. He is back in the Senate as an independent.

    Sanders believes Trump's message resonated with workers, like the ones in Wisconsin and Michigan, who were hit hard by the economic recession and haven't yet recovered. It was a connection Democrats were largely unable to maintain.

    "One of the reasons that Mr. Trump won is that we have millions of people who have given up on the political process, who don't believe that Congress is listening to their pain," Sanders said. "What the Democratic Party has got to do is start listening."

    In that way, Trump and Sanders are alike. Both tapped into the anti-establishment current that permeated the 2016 election. When asked if he thought he would have been able to win the general election against Trump, Sanders brushed it off.

    "I don't think it helps to relive history," said Sanders, whose campaign team touted polling during the primary that showed him faring better against Trump in head-to-head matchups. "The answer is I don't know. Nobody knows. It's not worth speculating about. We are where we are."

    Sanders sees Trump's anti-establishment tendencies as a potential opportunity, at least when it comes to the fight to preserve Medicare and Medicaid.

    Trump promised repeatedly throughout the campaign that he would not cut Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security if elected. Sanders wants to hold Trump accountable for that promise, regardless of what Republicans in Congress want to do.

    Sanders says Trump has a choice: "Either he can have the courage and get up in front of the American people, or do it through a tweet, and say, 'You know what? Hey, I was just kidding. I was really lying.'"

    Or Trump can tell his fellow Republicans that they're wasting their time on legislation that cuts those programs. "That would be the right thing to do," Sanders said. "And I look forward to Trump telling the American people that that is what he intends to do."

    To press the issue, Sanders, along with congressional leaders, is calling on his colleagues to organize Jan. 15 rallies protesting threats to the Affordable Care Act, Medicare and Medicaid.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    Democratic party plan to combat republican takeover of all branches of government:
    "Public shaming"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • rollingsrollings unknownPosts: 6,725
    DEM Bastarts!
  • rollingsrollings unknownPosts: 6,725
    rollings said:

    DEM Bastarts!

    DEM party HARDY

  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
    Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not. Both ideas are overwhelming. AE
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Thanks but I can't stand Maher. He lives in an egotistical celeb bubble, judging everyone else. And he's not that funny.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    So his opinion from 4:10-4:40 in the first video means nothing to you as a democrat?
    Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not. Both ideas are overwhelming. AE
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    When did I ever say I was a Dem?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Just watched that portion. He was a huge Hillary supporter pre-election, so bad his show became the "support Hillary" show in my household (although, he liked Sanders, just didn't think he had the potential to win). So now he thinks different. Good.
  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,010
    edited January 2017
    Free said:

    Just watched that portion. He was a huge Hillary supporter pre-election, so bad his show became the "support Hillary" show in my household (although, he liked Sanders, just didn't think he had the potential to win). So now he thinks different. Good.

    And this uninformed opinion is exactly why none of your opinions matter to me.

    Edit: MIS--informed, not UN-informed. I will acknowledge that you seek out information. But you are so completely blinded by your narrow viewpoint that you can't even see facts when they hit you in the face.

    Maher had Sanders on his show almost every season leading up to his announcement for presidency. Maher announced his support for Sanders from the beginning of his campaign. Maher hosted Sanders on his show a couple of times during his candidacy and after the primary loss. Maher expressed his disdain for Clinton almost every week during his primary season monologues. When the general election was over, Maher was one of the first to say that it's now finally the time for the Clintons to just disappear.

    So what if he he held his nose and backed the Democrats during the general? What the hell else did you expect him to do? The same thing you did -- abstain from voting and throw the election to Trump?

    All of these facts about Maher are easily searchable in Google. Declaring whatever you feel conforms to your biased obsession does not make them untrue.
    Post edited by what dreams on
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,358
    Free said:

    Just watched that portion. He was a huge Hillary supporter pre-election, so bad his show became the "support Hillary" show in my household (although, he liked Sanders, just didn't think he had the potential to win). So now he thinks different. Good.

    more proof that you have no idea what you are talking about....Maher was a huge Sanders supporter
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville
    2003: Noblesville
    2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville
    2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago
    2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1
    2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,864

    Free said:

    Just watched that portion. He was a huge Hillary supporter pre-election, so bad his show became the "support Hillary" show in my household (although, he liked Sanders, just didn't think he had the potential to win). So now he thinks different. Good.

    more proof that you have no idea what you are talking about....Maher was a huge Sanders supporter
    If you accepted the 2 party reality after the primary, that makes you a shill for Clinton I guess.
    Minus Cenk.
    And Sanders himself.
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