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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The Dems have bigger problems then they realize...

    Senator John Kennedy is a republican now

    http://www.nola.com/elections/index.ssf/2016/12/john_kennedy_louisianas_next_u.html
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    The Dems have bigger problems then they realize...

    Senator John Kennedy is a republican now

    http://www.nola.com/elections/index.ssf/2016/12/john_kennedy_louisianas_next_u.html

    LA politics are just strange... too much French influence. Same with their civil law procedures. That state is a real PITA.
  • Maybe the dems can chew on this and rebuild?
    Making it all worse for the Democrats is their ability to block these appointees is now almost nil. The Senate confirms cabinet-level choices and Republicans control the Senate with a 52-48 vote advantage this coming term, (53-48 when Vice President-elect Mike Pence's tie-breaking vote is accounted for).
    Even worse, the Democrats themselves eliminated almost every significant minority party filibuster tool when former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid initiated the so-called "nuclear option" in 2013. Since that move, individual senators have only been able to seize the floor for marathon speeches opposing nominees. But once those speeches end, the majority can now confirm nominees without needing the once traditional minimum 60 votes. All of this is adding to a combination of liberal despair and vehement anger.


    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/09/trump-cabinet-picks-anger-democrats.html
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    It's been one month since the election. Systemic change does not happen in one month. Forming opinions about "lessons learned" based on actions taken in one month's time is completely premature.

    It will take the Democratic party a whole generation to change. Right now it's elected leaders are OLD FARTS (including Bernie Sanders, probably the oldest fart of them all). The party will need to recruit, train, and support new and younger members and candidates who will make incremental change over a lifetime, the way the Republicans have managed to shift this country slowly to the right since their revolution started in the 90s.

    . . . I'll check back in 2040 to see what the Democratic Party learned.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited December 2016
    Bernie Sanders is the only "old fart" who is not only doing something, but is also not a Democrat. Oh how much that speaks.

    It shouldn't take more than a month to admit where your faults were with your weak candidate and then going after Russia for the election problems.

    Keep apologizing for your weak party and their need not to come to terms with reality.
    Post edited by Free on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Free said:

    Bernie Sanders is the only "old fart" who is not only doing something, but is also not a Democrat. Oh how much that speaks.

    It shouldn't take more than a month to admit where your faults were with your weak candidate and then going after Russia for the election problems.

    Keep apologizing for your weak party and their need not to come to terms with reality.

    Why do you give a fuck about our party? Seems like you shouldn't be concerned at all.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    The Dems have bigger problems then they realize...

    Senator John Kennedy is a republican now

    http://www.nola.com/elections/index.ssf/2016/12/john_kennedy_louisianas_next_u.html

    LA politics are just strange... too much French influence. Same with their civil law procedures. That state is a real PITA.
    But really good food
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Free said:

    Bernie Sanders is the only "old fart" who is not only doing something, but is also not a Democrat. Oh how much that speaks.

    It shouldn't take more than a month to admit where your faults were with your weak candidate and then going after Russia for the election problems.

    Keep apologizing for your weak party and their need not to come to terms with reality.

    At what point in my comment do you see an apology for "my" weak party? Or its denial of reality? I made it very clear that the Dems need a long-term strategy. After the old fart Bernie is dead, which will be sooner rather than later, he will need to be replaced -- with someone who can be elected.

    Sheesh -- You are always looking for a fight where there isn't one.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Bernie Sanders is the only "old fart" who is not only doing something, but is also not a Democrat. Oh how much that speaks.

    It shouldn't take more than a month to admit where your faults were with your weak candidate and then going after Russia for the election problems.

    Keep apologizing for your weak party and their need not to come to terms with reality.

    At what point in my comment do you see an apology for "my" weak party? Or its denial of reality? I made it very clear that the Dems need a long-term strategy. After the old fart Bernie is dead, which will be sooner rather than later, he will need to be replaced -- with someone who can be elected.

    Sheesh -- You are always looking for a fight where there isn't one.
    Like a lot of people, you attempt to insult at the same time claiming to be innocent.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
    You wouldn't like him if he had a vagina colored skin and a D next to his name but facts don't enter your "only white male republicans are allowed to be crooked" racist bubble.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    BS44325 said:

    "I'm with her" was the worst slogan of all time. As soon as Trump said "I'm with you" it was over.

    That is one thing I will actually agree with you on. Then again, I voted for Stein and hate Clinton anyways. I love how she turned it around with "She's with us" and "I'm with Jill."
  • Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
    You wouldn't like him if he had a vagina colored skin and a D next to his name but facts don't enter your "only white male republicans are allowed to be crooked" racist bubble.
    Actually I dislike all people who are racist.
    I don't see colour, race or religion.
    Anger shines in people though and those are the ones I avoid.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
    You wouldn't like him if he had a vagina colored skin and a D next to his name but facts don't enter your "only white male republicans are allowed to be crooked" racist bubble.
    Actually I dislike all people who are racist.
    I don't see colour, race or religion.
    Anger shines in people though and those are the ones I avoid.
    Why don't you avoid Trump, then? Anger shows through in almost every tweet.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2017
    ^^^
    I don't avoid Trump because like Mohamed he hits the truth, for everyone who allows it.
    His tweets are not angry ones, however some posts on AMT about him are.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2017

    Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
    You wouldn't like him if he had a vagina colored skin and a D next to his name but facts don't enter your "only white male republicans are allowed to be crooked" racist bubble.
    Actually I dislike all people who are racist.
    I don't see colour, race or religion.
    Anger shines in people though and those are the ones I avoid.
    You spelled, "You're right. I'm a racist hypocrite. It's okay for me to admit I'm wrong. It's bad as I thought it would be," wrong.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    Free said:
    From the article
    “There are some people who think that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a racist, a sexist or a homophobe or a xenophobe. I don’t believe that. Are those people in his camp? Absolutely. But it would be a tragic mistake to believe that everybody who voted for Donald Trump is a 'deplorable.' They’re not,” Sanders said.

    And there will still be people on here that would argue that this idea and article is not a day late nor a dollar short.
    I like President Trump.
    You wouldn't like him if he had a vagina colored skin and a D next to his name but facts don't enter your "only white male republicans are allowed to be crooked" racist bubble.
    Actually I dislike all people who are racist.
    I don't see colour, race or religion.
    Anger shines in people though and those are the ones I avoid.
    You don't see color? Are you blind?