Hmm, don't forget the [NAME-CALLING REMOVED BY ADMIN. BACK IT DOWN A NOTCH OR TWO TO PRESERVE YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES.] republicans who continue to standby silently as the Don destroyed the country and acts like a child. If they are proud of this "victory" they are just as fucked.
My apologies. It was not directed at anyone here just those representing us in office @Kat
While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.
While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.
Who says Sanders supporters are waiting for the next presidential election? He is doing more for the people of this country right NOW. In real time.
While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.
Who says Sanders supporters are waiting for the next presidential election? He is doing more for the people of this country right NOW. In real time.
No. He is tweeting. He is Trump minus an election victory.
Now back to my intial question to you...
Who are you supporting for DNC chair? That is the where the groundwork will be layed to advance whatever agenda it is that you actually care about.
They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.
They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.
Geassroots is how Obama got elected. Rural voters will continue to vote against their interests and that's a battle not worth taking on.
They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.
Geassroots is how Obama got elected. Rural voters will continue to vote against their interests and that's a battle not worth taking on.
Rural America is still holding on to the 50's and 60's and until that changes we get people like Trump as president.
So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities.
Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great. Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities.
Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great. Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
This will be the dems strategy, trot Bernie out in rallies and tie his name and face to anything and everything he will agree to in efforts to add legitimacy to their goal of raising cash and seem relevant.
The Trump resisting democrats! 17 of 18 Trump Resistors that are protesting Trump by not attending the inauguration (which is their right, have at it) were Clinton super delegates, that pledged their vote well before the primary concluded
Hooray to them for taking a stand against Trump, but will that take responsibility for their super delegate vote? Will democrats hold them accountable?
So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities.
Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great. Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
This will be the dems strategy, trot Bernie out in rallies and tie his name and face to anything and everything he will agree to in efforts to add legitimacy to their goal of raising cash and seem relevant.
So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities.
Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great. Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
Why would I answer your ridiculous post saying Sanders "has zero effect on legislation" because our corrupt politicians are paid off? You're blaming the wrong people here Bud. But keep on keeping on.
So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities.
Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great. Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
Why would I answer your ridiculous post saying Sanders "has zero effect on legislation" because our corrupt politicians are paid off? You're blaming the wrong people here Bud. But keep on keeping on.
Who do you want to see as DNC chair? There is nothing ridiculous about that this question. In terms of affecting policy it is the only question that matters. When you refuse to answer it makes people wonder what you are even advocating for on here?
Good article. Fuck Booker, and fuck my 2 senators for breaking ranks. Definitely a missed opportunity. But $$$$ from big pharma is obviously more attractive than a few constituent votes. They made their allegiance perfectly clear.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
"The ongoing contest between the Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders wings of the Democratic Party continues to divide Democrats. It’s urgent Democrats stop squabbling and recognize seven basic truths:
The Party is on life support. Democrats are in the minority in both the House and Senate, with no end in sight. Since the start of the Obama Administration they’ve lost 1,034 state and federal seats. They hold only governorships, and face 32 state legislatures fully under GOP control. No one speaks for the party as a whole. The Party’s top leaders are aging, and the back bench is thin.
The future is bleak unless the Party radically reforms itself. If Republicans do well in the 2018 midterms, they’ll control Congress and the Supreme Court for years. If they continue to hold most statehouses, they could entrench themselves for a generation.
We are now in a populist era. The strongest and most powerful force in American politics is a rejection of the status quo, a repudiation of politics as usual, and a deep and profound distrust of elites, including the current power structure of America.
That force propelled Donald Trump into the White House. He represents the authoritarian side of populism. Bernie Sanders’s primary campaign represented the progressive side.
The question hovering over America’s future is which form of populism will ultimately prevail. At some point, hopefully, Trump voters will discover they’ve been hoodwinked. Even in its purist form, authoritarian populism doesn’t work because it destroys democracy. Democrats must offer the alternative.
The economy is not working for most Americans. The economic data show lower unemployment and higher wages than eight years ago, but the typical family is still poorer today than it was in 2000, adjusted for inflation; median weekly earning are no higher than in 2000; a large number of working-age people – mostly men – have dropped out of the labor force altogether; and job insecurity is endemic.
Inequality is wider and its consequences more savage in America than in any other advanced nation.
The Party’s moneyed establishment – big donors, major lobbyists, retired members of congress who have become bundlers and lobbyists – are part of the problem. Even though many consider themselves “liberal” and don’t recoil from an active government, their preferred remedies spare corporations and the wealthiest from making any sacrifices.
The moneyed interests in the Party allowed the deregulation of Wall Street and then encouraged the bailout of the Street. They’re barely concerned about the growth of tax havens, inside trading, increasing market power in major industries (pharmaceuticals, telecom, airlines, private health insurers, food processors, finance, even high tech), and widening inequality.
Meanwhile, they’ve allowed labor unions to shrink to near irrelevance. Unionized workers used to be the ground troops of the Democratic Party. In the 1950s, more than a third of all private-sector workers were unionized; today, fewer than 7 percent are. It’s not enough for Democrats to be “against Trump,” and defend the status quo. Democrats have to fight like hell against regressive policies Trump wants to put in place, but Democrats also need to fight for a bold vision of what the nation must achieve – like expanding Social Security, and financing the expansion by raising the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes; Medicare for all; and world-class free public education for all.
And Democrats must diligently seek to establish countervailing power – stronger trade unions, community banks, more incentives for employee ownership and small businesses, and electoral reforms that get big money out of politics and expand the right to vote.
The life of the Party – its enthusiasm, passion, youth, principles, and ideals – was elicited by Bernie Sanders’s campaign. This isn’t to denigrate what Hillary Clinton accomplished – she did, after all, win the popular vote in the presidential election by almost 3 million people. It’s only to recognize what all of us witnessed: the huge outpouring of excitement that Bernie’s campaign inspired, especially from the young. This is the future of the Democratic Party.
The Party must change from being a giant fundraising machine to a movement. It needs to unite the poor, working class, and middle class, black and white – who haven’t had a raise in 30 years, and who feel angry, powerless, and disenfranchised.
If the Party doesn’t understand these seven truths and fails to do what’s needed, a third party will emerge to fill the void.
Third parties usually fail because they tend to draw votes away from the dominant party closest to them, ideologically. But if the Democratic Party creates a large enough void, a third party won’t draw away votes. It will pull people into politics.
And drawing more people into politics is the only hope going forward."
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals. Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals. Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
Still unwilling to improve your party and take some responsibility, I see.
I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
Wait two years.
The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals. Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
Still unwilling to improve your party and take some responsibility, I see.
I would love to improve the party, one step at a time. That's how improvement is made, in steps, not in one giant leap for the moon which leaves you lying flat on your face.
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WTF happened? In a week Ronald McDonald is president!
DEMOCRATS FOUND OUT THIS WEEK THAT BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE NOT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Now back to my intial question to you...
Who are you supporting for DNC chair? That is the where the groundwork will be layed to advance whatever agenda it is that you actually care about.
Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
The Trump resisting democrats!
17 of 18 Trump Resistors that are protesting Trump by not attending the inauguration (which is their right, have at it) were Clinton super delegates, that pledged their vote well before the primary concluded
Hooray to them for taking a stand against Trump, but will that take responsibility for their super delegate vote?
Will democrats hold them accountable?
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/01/17/booker-and-big-pharma-dems-have-no-excuse-vote-proves-it
By Robert Reich
http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/the_life_of_the_party_7_truths_for_democrats_20170122
"The ongoing contest between the Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders wings of the Democratic Party continues to divide Democrats. It’s urgent Democrats stop squabbling and recognize seven basic truths:
The Party is on life support. Democrats are in the minority in both the House and Senate, with no end in sight. Since the start of the Obama Administration they’ve lost 1,034 state and federal seats. They hold only governorships, and face 32 state legislatures fully under GOP control. No one speaks for the party as a whole. The Party’s top leaders are aging, and the back bench is thin.
The future is bleak unless the Party radically reforms itself. If Republicans do well in the 2018 midterms, they’ll control Congress and the Supreme Court for years. If they continue to hold most statehouses, they could entrench themselves for a generation.
We are now in a populist era. The strongest and most powerful force in American politics is a rejection of the status quo, a repudiation of politics as usual, and a deep and profound distrust of elites, including the current power structure of America.
That force propelled Donald Trump into the White House. He represents the authoritarian side of populism. Bernie Sanders’s primary campaign represented the progressive side.
The question hovering over America’s future is which form of populism will ultimately prevail. At some point, hopefully, Trump voters will discover they’ve been hoodwinked. Even in its purist form, authoritarian populism doesn’t work because it destroys democracy. Democrats must offer the alternative.
The economy is not working for most Americans. The economic data show lower unemployment and higher wages than eight years ago, but the typical family is still poorer today than it was in 2000, adjusted for inflation; median weekly earning are no higher than in 2000; a large number of working-age people – mostly men – have dropped out of the labor force altogether; and job insecurity is endemic.
Inequality is wider and its consequences more savage in America than in any other advanced nation.
The Party’s moneyed establishment – big donors, major lobbyists, retired members of congress who have become bundlers and lobbyists – are part of the problem. Even though many consider themselves “liberal” and don’t recoil from an active government, their preferred remedies spare corporations and the wealthiest from making any sacrifices.
The moneyed interests in the Party allowed the deregulation of Wall Street and then encouraged the bailout of the Street. They’re barely concerned about the growth of tax havens, inside trading, increasing market power in major industries (pharmaceuticals, telecom, airlines, private health insurers, food processors, finance, even high tech), and widening inequality.
Meanwhile, they’ve allowed labor unions to shrink to near irrelevance. Unionized workers used to be the ground troops of the Democratic Party. In the 1950s, more than a third of all private-sector workers were unionized; today, fewer than 7 percent are.
It’s not enough for Democrats to be “against Trump,” and defend the status quo. Democrats have to fight like hell against regressive policies Trump wants to put in place, but Democrats also need to fight for a bold vision of what the nation must achieve – like expanding Social Security, and financing the expansion by raising the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes; Medicare for all; and world-class free public education for all.
And Democrats must diligently seek to establish countervailing power – stronger trade unions, community banks, more incentives for employee ownership and small businesses, and electoral reforms that get big money out of politics and expand the right to vote.
The life of the Party – its enthusiasm, passion, youth, principles, and ideals – was elicited by Bernie Sanders’s campaign. This isn’t to denigrate what Hillary Clinton accomplished – she did, after all, win the popular vote in the presidential election by almost 3 million people. It’s only to recognize what all of us witnessed: the huge outpouring of excitement that Bernie’s campaign inspired, especially from the young. This is the future of the Democratic Party.
The Party must change from being a giant fundraising machine to a movement. It needs to unite the poor, working class, and middle class, black and white – who haven’t had a raise in 30 years, and who feel angry, powerless, and disenfranchised.
If the Party doesn’t understand these seven truths and fails to do what’s needed, a third party will emerge to fill the void.
Third parties usually fail because they tend to draw votes away from the dominant party closest to them, ideologically. But if the Democratic Party creates a large enough void, a third party won’t draw away votes. It will pull people into politics.
And drawing more people into politics is the only hope going forward."
Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
Still unwilling to accept reality, I see.