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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,750
    tbergs said:

    Free said:

    To the Dems:

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    Hmm, don't forget the [NAME-CALLING REMOVED BY ADMIN. BACK IT DOWN A NOTCH OR TWO TO PRESERVE YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES.] republicans who continue to standby silently as the Don destroyed the country and acts like a child. If they are proud of this "victory" they are just as fucked.
    My apologies. It was not directed at anyone here just those representing us in office @Kat
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017


    WTF happened? In a week Ronald McDonald is president!
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    http://www.inquisitr.com/3882074/democrats-found-out-this-week-that-bernie-supporters-are-not-going-away-any-time-soon/

    DEMOCRATS FOUND OUT THIS WEEK THAT BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE NOT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON

    Post edited by Free on
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,686
    While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.

    Who says Sanders supporters are waiting for the next presidential election? He is doing more for the people of this country right NOW. In real time.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,923
    Free said:

    While it's true that Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere, they need to find a new candidate to get behind. Bernie in four years won't happen. Get the momentum going early behind someone new.

    Who says Sanders supporters are waiting for the next presidential election? He is doing more for the people of this country right NOW. In real time.
    No. He is tweeting. He is Trump minus an election victory.

    Now back to my intial question to you...

    Who are you supporting for DNC chair? That is the where the groundwork will be layed to advance whatever agenda it is that you actually care about.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:
  • joseph33joseph33 NashvillePosts: 761
    edited January 2017
    They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,923
    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,160
    joseph33 said:

    They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.

    Geassroots is how Obama got elected. Rural voters will continue to vote against their interests and that's a battle not worth taking on.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,750

    joseph33 said:

    They have ignored grassroots and rural areas of the US for too long now. That's how we have dipshit in office now. Hope they learned something from the Bernie campaign. He would have crushed Trump in the electoral as well as the popular.

    Geassroots is how Obama got elected. Rural voters will continue to vote against their interests and that's a battle not worth taking on.
    Rural America is still holding on to the 50's and 60's and until that changes we get people like Trump as president.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,923
    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


    Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


    Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
    This will be the dems strategy, trot Bernie out in rallies and tie his name and face to anything and everything he will agree to in efforts to add legitimacy to their goal of raising cash and seem relevant.
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Democrats holding democrats accountable.

    The Trump resisting democrats!
    17 of 18 Trump Resistors that are protesting Trump by not attending the inauguration (which is their right, have at it) were Clinton super delegates, that pledged their vote well before the primary concluded

    Hooray to them for taking a stand against Trump, but will that take responsibility for their super delegate vote?
    Will democrats hold them accountable?
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


    Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
    This will be the dems strategy, trot Bernie out in rallies and tie his name and face to anything and everything he will agree to in efforts to add legitimacy to their goal of raising cash and seem relevant.
    Exhibit A

    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


    Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
    Why would I answer your ridiculous post saying Sanders "has zero effect on legislation" because our corrupt politicians are paid off? You're blaming the wrong people here Bud. But keep on keeping on. :weary:
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,923
    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    BS44325 said:

    Free said:

    So you missed that bill of his that was rejected thanks to Dems receiving money from Big Pharma. Priorities. :weary:

    Exactly. It failed. Bernie is having zero effect on legislation. He tweets...great.
    Who are you supporting for DNC chair?
    :lol:


    Ok. So you don't want to answer a basic question on the direction of the democratic party going forward. Fine. Just don't expect many to pay attention to your repeated outrage on the topic.
    Why would I answer your ridiculous post saying Sanders "has zero effect on legislation" because our corrupt politicians are paid off? You're blaming the wrong people here Bud. But keep on keeping on. :weary:
    Who do you want to see as DNC chair? There is nothing ridiculous about that this question. In terms of affecting policy it is the only question that matters. When you refuse to answer it makes people wonder what you are even advocating for on here?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Booker and the Big Pharma Dems Have No Excuse. This Vote Proves It.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/01/17/booker-and-big-pharma-dems-have-no-excuse-vote-proves-it
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,438
    Free said:
    Good article. Fuck Booker, and fuck my 2 senators for breaking ranks. Definitely a missed opportunity. But $$$$ from big pharma is obviously more attractive than a few constituent votes. They made their allegiance perfectly clear.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    The Life of the Party: 7 Truths for Democrats
    By Robert Reich

    http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/the_life_of_the_party_7_truths_for_democrats_20170122

    "The ongoing contest between the Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders wings of the Democratic Party continues to divide Democrats. It’s urgent Democrats stop squabbling and recognize seven basic truths:

    The Party is on life support. Democrats are in the minority in both the House and Senate, with no end in sight. Since the start of the Obama Administration they’ve lost 1,034 state and federal seats. They hold only governorships, and face 32 state legislatures fully under GOP control. No one speaks for the party as a whole. The Party’s top leaders are aging, and the back bench is thin.

    The future is bleak unless the Party radically reforms itself. If Republicans do well in the 2018 midterms, they’ll control Congress and the Supreme Court for years. If they continue to hold most statehouses, they could entrench themselves for a generation.

    We are now in a populist era. The strongest and most powerful force in American politics is a rejection of the status quo, a repudiation of politics as usual, and a deep and profound distrust of elites, including the current power structure of America.

    That force propelled Donald Trump into the White House. He represents the authoritarian side of populism. Bernie Sanders’s primary campaign represented the progressive side.

    The question hovering over America’s future is which form of populism will ultimately prevail. At some point, hopefully, Trump voters will discover they’ve been hoodwinked. Even in its purist form, authoritarian populism doesn’t work because it destroys democracy. Democrats must offer the alternative.

    The economy is not working for most Americans. The economic data show lower unemployment and higher wages than eight years ago, but the typical family is still poorer today than it was in 2000, adjusted for inflation; median weekly earning are no higher than in 2000; a large number of working-age people – mostly men – have dropped out of the labor force altogether; and job insecurity is endemic.

    Inequality is wider and its consequences more savage in America than in any other advanced nation.

    The Party’s moneyed establishment – big donors, major lobbyists, retired members of congress who have become bundlers and lobbyists – are part of the problem. Even though many consider themselves “liberal” and don’t recoil from an active government, their preferred remedies spare corporations and the wealthiest from making any sacrifices.

    The moneyed interests in the Party allowed the deregulation of Wall Street and then encouraged the bailout of the Street. They’re barely concerned about the growth of tax havens, inside trading, increasing market power in major industries (pharmaceuticals, telecom, airlines, private health insurers, food processors, finance, even high tech), and widening inequality.

    Meanwhile, they’ve allowed labor unions to shrink to near irrelevance. Unionized workers used to be the ground troops of the Democratic Party. In the 1950s, more than a third of all private-sector workers were unionized; today, fewer than 7 percent are.

    It’s not enough for Democrats to be “against Trump,” and defend the status quo.
    Democrats have to fight like hell against regressive policies Trump wants to put in place, but Democrats also need to fight for a bold vision of what the nation must achieve – like expanding Social Security, and financing the expansion by raising the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes; Medicare for all; and world-class free public education for all.

    And Democrats must diligently seek to establish countervailing power – stronger trade unions, community banks, more incentives for employee ownership and small businesses, and electoral reforms that get big money out of politics and expand the right to vote.

    The life of the Party – its enthusiasm, passion, youth, principles, and ideals – was elicited by Bernie Sanders’s campaign. This isn’t to denigrate what Hillary Clinton accomplished – she did, after all, win the popular vote in the presidential election by almost 3 million people. It’s only to recognize what all of us witnessed: the huge outpouring of excitement that Bernie’s campaign inspired, especially from the young. This is the future of the Democratic Party.

    The Party must change from being a giant fundraising machine to a movement. It needs to unite the poor, working class, and middle class, black and white – who haven’t had a raise in 30 years, and who feel angry, powerless, and disenfranchised.

    If the Party doesn’t understand these seven truths and fails to do what’s needed, a third party will emerge to fill the void.

    Third parties usually fail because they tend to draw votes away from the dominant party closest to them, ideologically. But if the Democratic Party creates a large enough void, a third party won’t draw away votes. It will pull people into politics.

    And drawing more people into politics is the only hope going forward."
    Post edited by Free on
  • riley540riley540 Bellingham WAPosts: 907
    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,160
    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    Both will collapse.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,923

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 11,807
    edited January 2017
    BS44325 said:

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
    Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
    Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
    Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,865
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
    Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
    Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
    You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals.
    Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
    Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
    Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
    You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals.
    Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
    Still unwilling to improve your party and take some responsibility, I see.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,865
    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    riley540 said:

    I thought this year would be the collapse of the Republican Party, but just the opposite happened. Super interesting to watch

    Wait two years.
    The electoral landscape for democrats in two years is terrible. Many red state senate seats to defend. The current platform of identity politics will not cut it.
    Mid terms in the Senate are not promising. But we will see on the House. All depends...
    Yeah it depends... on the Dem party.
    You could just as easily say it depends on the extremist liberals.
    Are they interested in shifting the balance of power back from the extreme right toward the middle, or are they interested in self-congratulatory rejections of the only force that is capable of doing that?
    Still unwilling to improve your party and take some responsibility, I see.
    I would love to improve the party, one step at a time. That's how improvement is made, in steps, not in one giant leap for the moon which leaves you lying flat on your face.

    Still unwilling to accept reality, I see.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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