What a fucking disaster

mfc2006

my2hands said:

To downplay and dismiss the platform and statements made by the president elect is foolish and naive...

He stated he wanted a deportation force to deport 15 million people...

He stated he wanted to ban people from entering the country based on their religion

He stated he wanted to overturn Roe v Wade and women who have abortions should be punished

He could likely shift the balance of the supreme court which

Don't even get me started on his homophobic VP and the actual legislation he was able to pass as Governor

Clean the fucking wax out of your ears folks... and for the love of God dont act like it's cool to be indifferent and not give a shit right now... women's rights alone may have just taken a 50 year rollback

BINGO.

my2hands

This orange cock sucker doesn't speak for me as an American... and I'm not going off quietly into the night

what dreams

InHiding80 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

ComeToTX said:

We're a racist, homophobic, pussy grabbing, sexist, climate change denying country. Sad but true.

Sucks that your criminal operation and gravy train is over...call Trump what you want but go back to be a tin foil climate changing fool

You are a climate change denier??? Ahahahahahahaha. That says it all!!!

I received a "Save the Bees" petition in my inbox today. I didn't bother signing it, since none of our new leaders in government believe in bees.

jeffbr

my2hands said:

To downplay and dismiss the platform and statements made by the president elect is foolish and naive...

He stated he wanted a deportation force to deport 15 million people...

He stated he wanted to ban people from entering the country based on their religion

He stated he wanted to overturn Roe v Wade and women who have abortions should be punished

He could likely shift the balance of the supreme court which

Don't even get me started on his homophobic VP and the actual legislation he was able to pass as Governor

Clean the fucking wax out of your ears folks... and for the love of God dont act like it's cool to be indifferent and not give a shit right now... women's rights alone may have just taken a 50 year rollback

Go Beavers

my2hands said:

To downplay and dismiss the platform and statements made by the president elect is foolish and naive...

He stated he wanted a deportation force to deport 15 million people...

He stated he wanted to ban people from entering the country based on their religion

He stated he wanted to overturn Roe v Wade and women who have abortions should be punished

He could likely shift the balance of the supreme court which

Don't even get me started on his homophobic VP and the actual legislation he was able to pass as Governor

Clean the fucking wax out of your ears folks... and for the love of God dont act like it's cool to be indifferent and not give a shit right now... women's rights alone may have just taken a 50 year rollback

This & bingo.

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

This orange cock sucker doesn't speak for me as an American... and I'm not going off quietly into the night

Good for you. Too many Americans seem to be reacting with "let's all give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Don't overreact, friend! Everything will be okay!" Are you people crazy?? Decent Americans should be rallying the troops right now (figuratively), thinking about defying this craziness, and about how to oppose what Trump and the rest of the wackos that have now taken over the government from carrying through with all their threats. Not singing Kumbaya with Trump fans so that they don't have to deal with their real feelings.
I mean Jesus. Everyone knows what the state of the Republican party is right now and how nuts most off the main players are at the moment ... and somehow the Republicans were just chosen to run the whole fucking show without opposition. Am I having a nightmare??

HughFreakingDillon

But.....but.....emails. Jesus fucking christ! She sent emails!

HughFreakingDillon

what dreams said:

InHiding80 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

ComeToTX said:

We're a racist, homophobic, pussy grabbing, sexist, climate change denying country. Sad but true.

Sucks that your criminal operation and gravy train is over...call Trump what you want but go back to be a tin foil climate changing fool

You are a climate change denier??? Ahahahahahahaha. That says it all!!!

I received a "Save the Bees" petition in my inbox today. I didn't bother signing it, since none of our new leaders in government believe in bees.

Lol.

JC29856

3rd party blame

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/third-party-voters-played-key-role-election-results

HughFreakingDillon

It really is sinking in that half of the US was willing to believe trump wont actually do the things he said he is going to do, or want him to do what he said he is going to do.

And if he does try to do those things, what the fuck are you guys going to say? "Its only 4 years. How much damage can he do?"

RoleModelsinBlood31

PJ_Soul said:

what dreams said:

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well, this is what symbolically voting for hopeless 3rd parties when there is an obvious candidate to stop gets you America. Enjoy the biggest mistake you ever collectively made. I am revolted by your choice along with the rest of the world. How shameful. I am also very sad for those who knew better but are stuck in this mess anyhow.

We have just become the biggest joke on earth. Those of us who aren't laughing will dust ourselves off and work harder than ever to make things better again.

And yes, I voted third party but in a state where doing so had no affect on the outcome. As I said elsewhere, no way would I do that in another state. But elsewhere enough people did. Electing Trump was a temper tantrum that will bite his supporters in the ass so hard they won't know what hit them... at first. And then that orange man will become their fucking nightmare. Meanwhile, hopefully, the rest of us will be busy picking up the pieces.

The third party vote had no impact. It was the people who did not vote at all who were the problem. "My vote just doesn't count" they say. "They're both awful" they say. "She's not the first woman I want" they say. Fuck all those people.

I am so pissed. My swing state delivered. We worked our asses off and did what we were supposed to do by a hair. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida . . . They're dumb ass failures. No wonder those states are so damned backwards in every way. We have a president who won an election by appealing to the dumbest among them, and I hope those states tank first before all the test of us -- except they're already shitty places to live so I guess those voters figured they have nothing to lose.

From what I heard, the number of ballots cast for Gary Johnson in PA would have won Clinton the state if they had gone to her instead.... not sure about the other swing states. I am actually still too disgusted to read any of the post-election coverage. Everyone in my office feels the same way. Many are saying that they aren't going to travel to the US anymore and won't buy anything from the US either. They are simply too disgusted by the stupidity and irresponsibility to want anything to do with the US now, and by Trump himself and the Republican party in general that is now running the whole show, that they have decided to boycott. Not kidding, six different people have said that to me today, and it's only noon.

That sucks, guess they won't have any PJ music if a new album comes out. Or maybe will they selectively boycott?

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

It really is sinking in that half of the US was willing to believe trump wont actually do the things he said he is going to do, or want him to do what he said he is going to do.

And if he does try to do those things, what the fuck are you guys going to say? "Its only 4 years. How much damage can he do?"

Imagine voting for someone who you say you believe isn't telling the truth about anything he says he's going to do. Crazy. I saw last night that Marco Rubio said that he doesn't think Trump can be trusted with the nuclear codes.... and that he voted for him anyway. What the fuck??

PJfanwillneverleave1

ledvedderman said:

my2hands said:

To downplay and dismiss the platform and statements made by the president elect is foolish and naive...

He stated he wanted a deportation force to deport 15 million people...

He stated he wanted to ban people from entering the country based on their religion

He stated he wanted to overturn Roe v Wade and women who have abortions should be punished

He could likely shift the balance of the supreme court which

Don't even get me started on his homophobic VP and the actual legislation he was able to pass as Governor

Clean the fucking wax out of your ears folks... and for the love of God dont act like it's cool to be indifferent and not give a shit right now... women's rights alone may have just taken a 50 year rollback

Solidarity, brother...

You know what else is solid?
The London 2013 boot.

rustneversleeps

PJ_Soul said:

rustneversleeps said:

PJ_Soul said:

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

benjs said:

mookeywrench said:

benjs said:

rustneversleeps said:

its like any other wednesday at my work. the above post confirms the ridiculous level of paranoia to the north.

How long did it take America to accept that black people were more than property (and then that they weren't all thieves and murderers)? That Mexicans weren't all illegal aliens and members of drug cartels? That Muslims weren't all terrorists? That women could do more than cook or clean? Donald Trump's rhetoric could be (by design) construed as accepting these old-world notions, and racists, sexists and xenophobes happily hide behind that ambiguity. This is a tremendous social regression.

People can take on the civil responsibility of continuing to teach and demonstrate those social morals. That would be the strongest form of protest rather than chants, political intolerance and burning dumpsters.

I think you're right, and I hope everyone rises to the occasion on that front.

So we defy the laws that may come to be? We create an underground network so women can still have an abortion? We somehow work-around the increased monitoring of digital communication? We provide health insurance to those who lost it? etc.

I'd rather focus my time and energy on reality.

When you're desperate and need an abortion but there isn't any clinic to go to and you find yourself in the cleaning products aisle looking for alternatives, that's about as real as it gets. So is cervical cancer, which Planned Parenthood provides screening for. And I guess it will be pretty real for American-born children who are forced to leave their country because their parents were too scared of Immigration to get them their birth certificate.

and you know all of this is imminent based on television ads? alittle dramatic up there today folks....

What ads? We don't get US political ads normally. We get Canadian advertising unless we have American feeds, which I don't. I do know the role of abortion clinics, Planned Parenthood, how the lack of access to abortions and other women's healthcare impacts women, and that there are many illegal immigrants who never got birth certificates for their kids and that has resulted in deportations though, and that Trump made threats towards groups who should be worried... I watched the debates and international news coverage.

but do you know that they'll say anything to get elected. what they actually do is another story. when he actually eliminates planned parenthood, then we can talk about what a bad decision it is. when he actually breaks ground on a wall, then we'll discuss what a mess it is. you are operating on assumption. we dont know what he will be as President.

HughFreakingDillon

You vote for someone hoping they are lying about their entire platform?

That really is a fucking disaster.

rustneversleeps

HughFreakingDillon said:

You vote for someone hoping they are lying about their entire platform?

That really is a fucking disaster.

no.

rustneversleeps

i guess because im not scared to death about an election result from less than 24 hours ago, you assume i voted for trump?

jeffbr

JC29856 said:

3rd party blame

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/third-party-voters-played-key-role-election-results

If...If...If....If....If the DNC hadn't fucked their own party there might have been a candidate proffered who would have beaten Trump. If the RNC had been successful in discrediting Trump, they would have had someone else on offer. If we weren't so locked into the establishment 2 party system we also wouldn't be in this mess. If...If...If... The author should look a little more deeply than just blaming a small percentage of 3rd party votes. We were the least of their problems.

PJ_Soul

rustneversleeps said:

PJ_Soul said:

rustneversleeps said:

PJ_Soul said:

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

benjs said:

mookeywrench said:

benjs said:

rustneversleeps said:

its like any other wednesday at my work. the above post confirms the ridiculous level of paranoia to the north.

How long did it take America to accept that black people were more than property (and then that they weren't all thieves and murderers)? That Mexicans weren't all illegal aliens and members of drug cartels? That Muslims weren't all terrorists? That women could do more than cook or clean? Donald Trump's rhetoric could be (by design) construed as accepting these old-world notions, and racists, sexists and xenophobes happily hide behind that ambiguity. This is a tremendous social regression.

People can take on the civil responsibility of continuing to teach and demonstrate those social morals. That would be the strongest form of protest rather than chants, political intolerance and burning dumpsters.

I think you're right, and I hope everyone rises to the occasion on that front.

So we defy the laws that may come to be? We create an underground network so women can still have an abortion? We somehow work-around the increased monitoring of digital communication? We provide health insurance to those who lost it? etc.

I'd rather focus my time and energy on reality.

When you're desperate and need an abortion but there isn't any clinic to go to and you find yourself in the cleaning products aisle looking for alternatives, that's about as real as it gets. So is cervical cancer, which Planned Parenthood provides screening for. And I guess it will be pretty real for American-born children who are forced to leave their country because their parents were too scared of Immigration to get them their birth certificate.

and you know all of this is imminent based on television ads? alittle dramatic up there today folks....

What ads? We don't get US political ads normally. We get Canadian advertising unless we have American feeds, which I don't. I do know the role of abortion clinics, Planned Parenthood, how the lack of access to abortions and other women's healthcare impacts women, and that there are many illegal immigrants who never got birth certificates for their kids and that has resulted in deportations though, and that Trump made threats towards groups who should be worried... I watched the debates and international news coverage.

but do you know that they'll say anything to get elected. what they actually do is another story. when he actually eliminates planned parenthood, then we can talk about what a bad decision it is. when he actually breaks ground on a wall, then we'll discuss what a mess it is. you are operating on assumption. we dont know what he will be as President.

Yes, silly me, talking about the entire platform of the man who was just elected.
Yeah, It remains to be seen what he does and doesn't do. But you know, I think it's prudent to really worry about what he's threatened to do (or just about the fact that he threatened it) than to under-react. Plus, even if he doesn't do any of those things... it's more than fair to be really concerned about what else he comes up with over the next 4 years. He's actually scary now, with a Republican senate and congress.

PJ_Soul

rustneversleeps said:

i guess because im not scared to death apathetic about an election result from less than 24 hours ago, you assume i voted for trump?

fixed