Only 2 Drummers Get In? RnRHOF. Merged

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,435
    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Yes. I'd go as far tosay that NONE of the original members are replaceable. Each were masters of their instruments.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,760
    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    I think it's more the fact that they didn't want to continue after he died.
    I miss igotid88
  • mrpink90
    mrpink90 Posts: 415
    igotid88 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    I think it's more the fact that they didn't want to continue after he died.
    they didnt want to continue after he died cuz he was that good. they wouldnt be led zeppelin without him, no drummer could match him.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    nicknyr15 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Yes. I'd go as far tosay that NONE of the original members are replaceable. Each were masters of their instruments.
    Co-sign
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    igotid88 said:

    I'm not an expert on who's a better drummer or whatever. But I don't hear that much difference from Ten to Vitalogy in terms of drumming. You can hear it on No Code and you can hear it during the Cameron years. Due to unfortunate circumstances Dave Krusen couldn't continue with the band. But the majority of people who know of Pearl Jam. Would think of the songs Alive, Jeremy, Black, Why Go, and Even Flow. I know the re-recorded Even Flow with Dave A. And the Alive video has Matt Chamberlain. But Alive, Jeremy, Black, and Release on the radio is Dave K.

    So it's not necessarily that Ten was their first record so Dave K has to be in. It's their most popular and well known I believe that the decision was based. If Ten didn't put then on the map. And it was Vs. Then Dave A. has a better chance. Also had there been videos for Daughter, Go, Rearviewmirror, Better Man, Immortality, Spin the Black Circle. I believe those albums would be up there with Ten in terms of sales.

    You make an interesting point between the first two albums. If you really get into it, it is a complex argument which album is more important to the longevity of the band.
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    igotid88 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    I think it's more the fact that they didn't want to continue after he died.
    No
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    nicknyr15 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Yes. I'd go as far tosay that NONE of the original members are replaceable. Each were masters of their instruments.
    You are correct sir!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,892
    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Yup. I am a die hard John Bonham fan. That is the only drummer I have ever specifically been a fan of in my whole life and likely the only one I ever will be an actual fan of, as opposed to just being a fan by default because they play for the band I am a fan of (not to say I don't appreciate the drummer in any band, including Matt in PJ... it's just not the same though).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,892
    edited October 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Oh yes. Check out some LZ vids that feature Bonham. Mind blowing and just on another level than all other drummers. I actually consider him the best rock musician ever. Not just the best drummer. Best out of any instrument. I don't expect everyone to agree with that statement of course, lol, but I believe it with all my heart. :)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,760
    mrpink90 said:

    igotid88 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    I think it's more the fact that they didn't want to continue after he died.
    they didnt want to continue after he died cuz he was that good. they wouldnt be led zeppelin without him, no drummer could match him.
    Yea. But had he not died and left on his own. Maybe things would be different.
    I miss igotid88
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,892
    igotid88 said:

    mrpink90 said:

    igotid88 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    I think it's more the fact that they didn't want to continue after he died.
    they didnt want to continue after he died cuz he was that good. they wouldnt be led zeppelin without him, no drummer could match him.
    Yea. But had he not died and left on his own. Maybe things would be different.
    Maybe. But this is the reason I don't give a crap about Led Zeppelin reunions. Without Bonham, it's just not Led Zeppelin to me. It's cool that his kid played in his place and all, but no... the heart of the band absolutely died in 1980; the band died along with him.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Oh yes. Check out some LZ vids that feature Bonham. Mind blowing and just on another level than all other drummers. I actually consider him the best rock musician ever. Not just the best drummer. Best out of any instrument. I don't expect everyone to agree with that statement of course, lol, but I believe it with all my heart. :)
    I like you! Sorry if that's awkward.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,183
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Oh yes. Check out some LZ vids that feature Bonham. Mind blowing and just on another level than all other drummers. I actually consider him the best rock musician ever. Not just the best drummer. Best out of any instrument. I don't expect everyone to agree with that statement of course, lol, but I believe it with all my heart. :)
    How did he die? I am obviously not an expert in any way of Led Zeppelin.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,892
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Oh yes. Check out some LZ vids that feature Bonham. Mind blowing and just on another level than all other drummers. I actually consider him the best rock musician ever. Not just the best drummer. Best out of any instrument. I don't expect everyone to agree with that statement of course, lol, but I believe it with all my heart. :)
    How did he die? I am obviously not an expert in any way of Led Zeppelin.
    Take a wild guess. :frowning:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,892
    And he was only 32. Found by John Paul Jones and their manager I believe, dead in his bed.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,183
    Yeah he choked on his own vomit after drinking a hell of a lot of vodka. What s up with the song "moby dick"?!?! 30 minute drum solo?! Was this played at live shows?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    mcgruff10 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    on2legs said:

    I personally think Dave should be included but on the flip side I've never listened to a single band or performer because they had a great drummer. I think people here are overblowing his importance.

    There is only one rock band ever that the drummer was irreplaceable.
    I m not a drummer so I m wondering what your answer is.
    Zeppelin
    Damn I never knew that. Guy was that good?
    Oh yes. Check out some LZ vids that feature Bonham. Mind blowing and just on another level than all other drummers. I actually consider him the best rock musician ever. Not just the best drummer. Best out of any instrument. I don't expect everyone to agree with that statement of course, lol, but I believe it with all my heart. :)
    How did he die? I am obviously not an expert in any way of Led Zeppelin.
    Barbiturates and alcohol. He drank like a gallon of Vodka and choked on his vomit. Pretty sad.
  • Ninetytworules
    Ninetytworules Boston Posts: 454
    mcgruff10 said:

    Yeah he choked on his own vomit after drinking a hell of a lot of vodka. What s up with the song "moby dick"?!?! 30 minute drum solo?! Was this played at live shows?

    Every show. There's a great video from earls court in London. Seattle too in the late 70s. Unbelievable version.

    My favorite videos are from the BBC shows in the late 60's. He just beats the shit out of his drums. To hear four musicians play the blues at that level is awe inspiring.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,183
    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Yeah he choked on his own vomit after drinking a hell of a lot of vodka. What s up with the song "moby dick"?!?! 30 minute drum solo?! Was this played at live shows?

    Every show. There's a great video from earls court in London. Seattle too in the late 70s. Unbelievable version.

    My favorite videos are from the BBC shows in the late 60's. He just beats the shit out of his drums. To hear four musicians play the blues at that level is awe inspiring.
    I need to start to listen to zeppelin! I grew up on the Beatles and The Beach Boys, no zeppelin in our house!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,435
    mcgruff10 said:

    Ninetytworules said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Yeah he choked on his own vomit after drinking a hell of a lot of vodka. What s up with the song "moby dick"?!?! 30 minute drum solo?! Was this played at live shows?

    Every show. There's a great video from earls court in London. Seattle too in the late 70s. Unbelievable version.

    My favorite videos are from the BBC shows in the late 60's. He just beats the shit out of his drums. To hear four musicians play the blues at that level is awe inspiring.
    I need to start to listen to zeppelin! I grew up on the Beatles and The Beach Boys, no zeppelin in our house!
    WHAT!!?? I'm kind of jealous that you will be hearing them for the first time right now. I wish I could re live that. Pop in Led Zeppelin 2 and crank it up to 10.
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