Let's see if we can get a setlist thread moved into the Train!
Oh if this person keeps up don't you worry.
EV Bridgeschool - October 24, 2004
San Francisco - July 15/16/18, 2006 Bridgeschool - October 21/22, 2006
Lollapalooza - August 5,2007
EV Berkley - April 7/8, 2008 The Who Rock Honors - July 12, 2008
Outside Lands - August 28, 2009 Seattle - September 21/22, 2009 San Diego - October 9, 2009
Cool, you go tell the families of those 4,000 American dead.
So instead of debating like a normal person you'll just make dramatic statements like that? You act as though I have no compassion for those families. My point has nothing to do with compassion or understanding. It's horrible that people have to die, for any reason.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
I'm almost thinking the exact opposite... the lyrics to me seem so unsophisticated for Ed, and the music is plain.
Although more than that is the fact that they play it over half the shows and so many other great songs are getting shelved for it...
Protest songs are supposed to have simple repetative lyrics so that people can sing along to them...that's the point. You don't want huge groups of people singing as loud as they possibly can to super complex difficult songs. (not everyone can sing along to EvenFlow, for example - even Ed has a problem sometimes)...
If ed wants to sing No More, then so be it....go pee or plug your ears while he's singing it.
Anyway... this was the worst set of the tour although still not bad by any means.
Agreed, although there are going to be such variations ... Its not just going to go up every single night ... I am happy to get Evacuation, for much as flack as this song gets.
Definitely no Who You Are. So that is the complete setlist ^^
Good show.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
So instead of debating like a normal person you'll just make dramatic statements like that? You act as though I have no compassion for those families. My point has nothing to do with compassion or understanding. It's horrible that people have to die, for any reason.
Exactly so Eddie Vedder wrote a song about a MEANINGLESS war and is trying to make sure no one else has to die. I am not trying to be over dramatic I am just saying songs like this are NEEDED in dire times.
EV Bridgeschool - October 24, 2004
San Francisco - July 15/16/18, 2006 Bridgeschool - October 21/22, 2006
Lollapalooza - August 5,2007
EV Berkley - April 7/8, 2008 The Who Rock Honors - July 12, 2008
Outside Lands - August 28, 2009 Seattle - September 21/22, 2009 San Diego - October 9, 2009
Exactly so Eddie Vedder wrote a song about a MEANINGLESS war and is trying to make sure no one else has to die. I am not trying to be over dramatic I am just saying songs like this are NEEDED in dire times.
I guess. I just don't like the song. I think it overblows the situation. If he wrote a similarly extreme song about how the government in general sucks ass I'd totally agree. But this specific situation doesn't merit it, as compared to Vietnam, and that is what ruins the song for me.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
Exactly so Eddie Vedder wrote a song about a MEANINGLESS war and is trying to make sure no one else has to die. I am not trying to be over dramatic I am just saying songs like this are NEEDED in dire times.
Just because someone writes a song about a war or event doesn't mean its good... I guess that's my point...
I'm not arguing the war, I'm saying the song sucks. Play Bushleaguer - its a good song whether or not you agree with the lyrics.
STILL waiting for confirmation on Who You Are. If anyone hears anything let me know!!
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
I can't believe people are saying it was a bland set.....
Compared to the rest of the tour, it was. Still a very good show, though.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
I'm really crossing my fingers for the boys taking Bushleager out for one last stand in DC while that jackass Bush is still in office....
I won't change direction, and I won't change my mind - E.V.
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99 Tibetan Freedom Concert, 00 Detroit, 03 Alpine Valley, 04 Grand Rapids
06 Chicago I, 06 Chicago II, 06 Grand Rapids, 07 Lollapalloza, 08 DC, 08 MSG I, 08 MSG II, 08 EV Solo Milwaukee, Chicago I & II 09, Portland 09, Nobelsville 10, Cleveland 10, PJ20 I & II, Wrigley 13, Brooklyn I & II '13, St. Paul 14, Moline 14, Milwaukee 14
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Oh if this person keeps up don't you worry.
San Francisco - July 15/16/18, 2006 Bridgeschool - October 21/22, 2006
Lollapalooza - August 5,2007
EV Berkley - April 7/8, 2008 The Who Rock Honors - July 12, 2008
Outside Lands - August 28, 2009 Seattle - September 21/22, 2009 San Diego - October 9, 2009
Shit, dude ... Point. See, that's what fellow PJ fans are for ... They help a guy look on the bright side!
So instead of debating like a normal person you'll just make dramatic statements like that? You act as though I have no compassion for those families. My point has nothing to do with compassion or understanding. It's horrible that people have to die, for any reason.
-Reagan
And I'm NOT trying to diminish ANY death, but if you're going to make the comparison it should be a little closer.
Anyway... this was the worst set of the tour although still not bad by any means.
Protest songs are supposed to have simple repetative lyrics so that people can sing along to them...that's the point. You don't want huge groups of people singing as loud as they possibly can to super complex difficult songs. (not everyone can sing along to EvenFlow, for example - even Ed has a problem sometimes)...
If ed wants to sing No More, then so be it....go pee or plug your ears while he's singing it.
Agreed, although there are going to be such variations ... Its not just going to go up every single night ... I am happy to get Evacuation, for much as flack as this song gets.
9/28/05 Pittsburgh
6/23/06 Pittsburgh
8/2/07 Vic
8/5/07 Lolla
6/16/08 Columbia
8/17/08 DC (EV Solo)
God willing, this pointless war won't last half as long as Vietnam, so the numbers won't get THAT elevated...
Good show.
-Reagan
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
Exactly so Eddie Vedder wrote a song about a MEANINGLESS war and is trying to make sure no one else has to die. I am not trying to be over dramatic I am just saying songs like this are NEEDED in dire times.
San Francisco - July 15/16/18, 2006 Bridgeschool - October 21/22, 2006
Lollapalooza - August 5,2007
EV Berkley - April 7/8, 2008 The Who Rock Honors - July 12, 2008
Outside Lands - August 28, 2009 Seattle - September 21/22, 2009 San Diego - October 9, 2009
you think they'll play LBC at mansfield 2? then it really WOULD be "8 years ago today"
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
I guess. I just don't like the song. I think it overblows the situation. If he wrote a similarly extreme song about how the government in general sucks ass I'd totally agree. But this specific situation doesn't merit it, as compared to Vietnam, and that is what ruins the song for me.
-Reagan
I'm not arguing the war, I'm saying the song sucks. Play Bushleaguer - its a good song whether or not you agree with the lyrics.
-Reagan
The crowd did look a little bland which is probably the reason for the short(er) set...
Compared to the rest of the tour, it was. Still a very good show, though.
-Reagan
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99 Tibetan Freedom Concert, 00 Detroit, 03 Alpine Valley, 04 Grand Rapids
06 Chicago I, 06 Chicago II, 06 Grand Rapids, 07 Lollapalloza, 08 DC, 08 MSG I, 08 MSG II, 08 EV Solo Milwaukee, Chicago I & II 09, Portland 09, Nobelsville 10, Cleveland 10, PJ20 I & II, Wrigley 13, Brooklyn I & II '13, St. Paul 14, Moline 14, Milwaukee 14
Nah, not overall. In the broader scheme, it was actually a choice set. Compared to previous nights this tour, it was a tad bland.
With this band, you can't really compare two different shows........There are just too many variables.
I like the Long Road opener and Rearviewmirror as the main set closer. And I Am Mine and Not For You are two of my favorites.
And....Guaranteed!
I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
9/28/05 Pittsburgh
6/23/06 Pittsburgh
8/2/07 Vic
8/5/07 Lolla
6/16/08 Columbia
8/17/08 DC (EV Solo)
me too!
I imagine ...
Indeed they do. What the Heck. This is ridiculous.