US policy of dishonesty and hypocrisy

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    polaris_x said:

    definitely pardon snowden

    the people that should be in jail are the ones in office ...

    Agreed.
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  • Do you guys think this shit just started in the last 8 or 16 years?
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  • Boxes&Books
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    JC29856 said:

    Speaking of precedent
    911 victims bill
    As it happens, the White House’s principled opposition to the bill was based on its worry that it would open the door to lawsuits from foreigners accusing the U.S. government of crimes, possibly including the killing of hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, torture, deaths of innocent people with drones, and global mass surveillance.

    So Obama supported it and the Senate vetoed?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559

    Do you guys think this shit just started in the last 8 or 16 years?

    i think my line where I said US foreign policy has ALWAYS been about economic imperialism indicates probably not ...
  • polaris_x said:

    Do you guys think this shit just started in the last 8 or 16 years?

    i think my line where I said US foreign policy has ALWAYS been about economic imperialism indicates probably not ...
    So what's the ruckus?
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  • polaris_x
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    polaris_x said:

    Do you guys think this shit just started in the last 8 or 16 years?

    i think my line where I said US foreign policy has ALWAYS been about economic imperialism indicates probably not ...
    So what's the ruckus?
    what's the ruckus!?? ... you got to be kidding me!?? ... have you seen the middle fucking east!?? ... it's war torn full of refugees and starving people! ... all in the name of greed ... what's the ruckus!?? ... unbelievable ...
  • Yet, it's been going on since the inception of the US. First here, now there. What's really changed and will it ever change? And if not us, it'll be someone else, Russia, China, someone. It's human nature.
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited September 2016

    Yet, it's been going on since the inception of the US. First here, now there. What's really changed and will it ever change? And if not us, it'll be someone else, Russia, China, someone. It's human nature.

    I understand your sentiment, but it sounds like you're accepting it because it's human nature- and that's that. For future generations and hopefully with in our time, I hope we can make the change where we don't have to settle for that excuse. I hope that at some point in the near future our knowledge will expand just a bit more so that we can solve it. Only challenge is that we need leadership, not just a few, but a broad group of leadership to help make these changes real. We'll need to start with removing politicians who accept loads of cash from special interest. I think that's a good step. Hopefully our next president isn't someone who accepts loads of cash from special interest.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    How about alittle TGIF trivia?

    Which US ally cut off more heads last year?
    A. Saudi Arabia
    B. ISIS
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:

    How about alittle TGIF trivia?

    Which US ally cut off more heads last year?
    A. Saudi Arabia
    B. ISIS

    Monsanto!

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    Yet, it's been going on since the inception of the US. First here, now there. What's really changed and will it ever change? And if not us, it'll be someone else, Russia, China, someone. It's human nature.

    I thought I was a cynic...

    https://youtu.be/rlF3eoQ_lLw

  • Cynic? Me? Realist. It always seems to boil down to family, tribe/extended family, religion, national identity. How or when have these never been in conflict? And why would it be different now or in the future? We're human.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    American feigning over p*ssy grabbing While our allies, the Saudis bomb a funeral in Yemen then bombed it 3 more times as rescuers arrived. I'm guessing those bombs that killed 150 humans were Made in America. The WH is concerned and will review the matter.
    MSM HRC DT...crickets.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    War on terror

    Bomb hospitals schools weddings and now funerals.
    Arm and fund tomorrow's terrorists.
    Arm and fund today's terrorist groups.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited October 2016
    JC29856 said:

    American feigning over p*ssy grabbing While our allies, the Saudis bomb a funeral in Yemen then bombed it 3 more times as rescuers arrived. I'm guessing those bombs that killed 150 humans were Made in America. The WH is concerned and will review the matter.
    MSM HRC DT...crickets.

    Here, let me help you. Your comment demands context and sources so that people have some actual information to go on while forming an opinion about this attack. I actually can't find anything that points to Hillary Clinton being responsible in any real way. People will have to resort to the trickle-down theories that are so popular now when people are trying to lay blame on a specific person's feet for something another nation did.

    https://www.rt.com/news/362069-yemen-bombing-saudi-us-support/

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/08/saudi-led-coalition-airstrike-hits-yemen-funeral-more-than-140-killed.html

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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC29856 said:

    How about alittle TGIF trivia?

    Which US ally cut off more heads last year?
    A. Saudi Arabia
    B. ISIS

    Would love to hear from my fellow so-called progressives
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    American feigning over p*ssy grabbing While our allies, the Saudis bomb a funeral in Yemen then bombed it 3 more times as rescuers arrived. I'm guessing those bombs that killed 150 humans were Made in America. The WH is concerned and will review the matter.
    MSM HRC DT...crickets.

    Here, let me help you. Your comment demands context and sources so that people have some actual information to go on while forming an opinion about this attack. I actually can't find anything that points to Hillary Clinton being responsible in any real way. People will have to resort to the trickle-down theories that are so popular now when people are trying to lay blame on a specific person's feet for something another nation did.

    https://www.rt.com/news/362069-yemen-bombing-saudi-us-support/

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/08/saudi-led-coalition-airstrike-hits-yemen-funeral-more-than-140-killed.html

    Thanks for the help but most don't give a shit so they won't even read the thread, some give a tiny shit but are too lazy/distracted to learn more, those that give a shit can research themselves.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    American feigning over p*ssy grabbing While our allies, the Saudis bomb a funeral in Yemen then bombed it 3 more times as rescuers arrived. I'm guessing those bombs that killed 150 humans were Made in America. The WH is concerned and will review the matter.
    MSM HRC DT...crickets.

    Funeral Bomb fragment MK82 Made in America.

    USA...USA...USA...USA...USA
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    How about alittle TGIF trivia?

    Which US ally cut off more heads last year?
    A. Saudi Arabia
    B. ISIS

    Would love to hear from my fellow so-called progressives
    My first reaction isn't about what the future president thinks, it's about why they're our allies. And the next time you're filling up your car, you'll have your answer.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    ISIS and US strange relationship

    http://theantimedia.org/5-times-us-helped-isis/