THE DEBATES 2016

mace1229

rgambs said:

Jason P said:

The Juggler said:

josevolution said:

The CNN poll showed Clinton won 57% Trump 33% , she held her own he did nothing to prove that's his fit to be president or bring new voters to his side .....

Yup. She held her own, took everything he threw at her, and is still standing. I think she did what she had to do last night.

It should have been her "Finish Him!" moment. First she got a softball first question lobbed to her and the mods were clearly on her side ... but she didn't finish him. She seemed incredulous that it wasn't happening.

The mods were not "clearly on her side" that is just ridiculous.

I think they definitely favored her. Her first question was asking about her being a role model. His first was about the 2005 video. That right there is a little lame. Come out with a hard question for both of them if you're going to do that.
Only several occasions told him he could respond, but then cut him off after 10 seconds. Talked about his VP stance like a negative. They didn't stop her from going over her time until the end after Trump pointed it out. To me it seemed obvious they favored Clinton

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

rgambs said:

Jason P said:

The Juggler said:

josevolution said:

The CNN poll showed Clinton won 57% Trump 33% , she held her own he did nothing to prove that's his fit to be president or bring new voters to his side .....

Yup. She held her own, took everything he threw at her, and is still standing. I think she did what she had to do last night.

It should have been her "Finish Him!" moment. First she got a softball first question lobbed to her and the mods were clearly on her side ... but she didn't finish him. She seemed incredulous that it wasn't happening.

The mods were not "clearly on her side" that is just ridiculous.

I think they definitely favored her. Her first question was asking about her being a role model. His first was about the 2005 video. That right there is a little lame. Come out with a hard question for both of them if you're going to do that.
Only several occasions told him he could respond, but then cut him off after 10 seconds. Talked about his VP stance like a negative. They didn't stop her from going over her time until the end after Trump pointed it out. To me it seemed obvious they favored Clinton

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/2016-presidential-debate-speaking-times-229502

The moderators did their job. When Trump went to his canned bullshit that had nothing to do with the topic they cut him off like they should

BS44325

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

unsung

I'm paraphrasing, it has been all over the news...

Clinton, "it would be terrible to have someone like you in charge of the laws of the country".

Trump, "yeah, you'd be in jail".

#micdrop

Gern Blansten

unsung said:

I'm paraphrasing, it has been all over the news...

Clinton, "it would be terrible to have someone like you in charge of the laws of the country".

Trump, "yeah, you'd be in jail".

#micdrop

Interesting....you are the anti-government guy yet you get a kick out of this idiot stating that he would abuse his power if elected to office?

How do you reconcile that?

BS44325

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

I'm paraphrasing, it has been all over the news...

Clinton, "it would be terrible to have someone like you in charge of the laws of the country".

Trump, "yeah, you'd be in jail".

#micdrop

Interesting....you are the anti-government guy yet you get a kick out of this idiot stating that he would abuse his power if elected to office?

How do you reconcile that?

That is not an abuse of power. Sorry. There are real crimes to be investigated. The fact that Hillary is running for president should not protect her from a thorough investigation by an independent special prosecuter. Laws are not just for the little people.

josevolution

BS44325 said:

Finally watched it. I was honest when I said Trump was terrible in the first debate but last night he shredded her. Absolutely shredded her. I have zero idea whether it will matter but he owned that townhall.

You are delusional If you believe that , ,he was as incompetent as he has ever been at properly answering any of the ? Posed to him !

Gern Blansten

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

I'm paraphrasing, it has been all over the news...

Clinton, "it would be terrible to have someone like you in charge of the laws of the country".

Trump, "yeah, you'd be in jail".

#micdrop

Interesting....you are the anti-government guy yet you get a kick out of this idiot stating that he would abuse his power if elected to office?

How do you reconcile that?

That is not an abuse of power. Sorry. There are real crimes to be investigated. The fact that Hillary is running for president should not protect her from a thorough investigation by an independent special prosecuter. Laws are not just for the little people.

You are ignorant. A President cannot do what he said....he could "suggest" that the Dept of Justice look into a special prosecutor but he couldn't do anything beyond that. Remember Nixon? There were procedures put in place to prevent this shit.

unsung

Well I'd guess he was getting at that there wouldn't be aby special meeting on the tarmac to discuss a "golf game" or "grandkids".

That's my guess anyway.

I know, keep making excuses for her.

unsung

Gern Blansten said:

BS44325 said:

Gern Blansten said:

unsung said:

I'm paraphrasing, it has been all over the news...

Clinton, "it would be terrible to have someone like you in charge of the laws of the country".

Trump, "yeah, you'd be in jail".

#micdrop

Interesting....you are the anti-government guy yet you get a kick out of this idiot stating that he would abuse his power if elected to office?

How do you reconcile that?

That is not an abuse of power. Sorry. There are real crimes to be investigated. The fact that Hillary is running for president should not protect her from a thorough investigation by an independent special prosecuter. Laws are not just for the little people.

You are ignorant. A President cannot do what he said....he could "suggest" that the Dept of Justice look into a special prosecutor but he couldn't do anything beyond that. Remember Nixon? There were procedures put in place to prevent this shit.

The President also can't change immigration laws either but that hasn't stopped this guy.

JC29856

I thought Trump said he would get a special prosecutor and he said "you would in jail" not I'll put you in jail.

unsung

He did. Don't let that get in the way of their story though.

HughFreakingDillon

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

Did we watch the same debate? All he did was mud sling. And done in such a way that he sounded like a middle schooler. He avoided talking policy at all costs, and when he was forced to, he embarassed himself. Hillary at least spoke about what she would do and how she would accomplish that. He pandered to his current base. A debate is to swing undecideds. He failed miserably on all fronts.

dignin

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

No. That is delusional.

BS44325

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

Did we watch the same debate? All he did was mud sling. And done in such a way that he sounded like a middle schooler. He avoided talking policy at all costs, and when he was forced to, he embarassed himself. Hillary at least spoke about what she would do and how she would accomplish that. He pandered to his current base. A debate is to swing undecideds. He failed miserably on all fronts.

I watched the same debate. Remember that I don't like him either but I know a debate win when I see it. People who hate him will not be able to see how he owned it from front to back but I agree that it may not have moved the middle. That question I cannot answer but what nobody else can't answer is if the middle is willing to move to her? Her "terribleness" was put on full display. He brought her down massively without necessarily elevating himself. People do not like her and will continue to not like her. She excites nobody and depresses many. How that changes polling/turnout is anybody's guess.

Bentleyspop

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

Did we watch the same debate? All he did was mud sling. And done in such a way that he sounded like a middle schooler. He avoided talking policy at all costs, and when he was forced to, he embarassed himself. Hillary at least spoke about what she would do and how she would accomplish that. He pandered to his current base. A debate is to swing undecideds. He failed miserably on all fronts.

Isn't this the drumpf policy platform....

Lying hillary
Bill
Crooked Hillary
Bill
She's the devil
Bill
Emails
Bill
Benghazi

Repeat

JC29856

unsung said:

He did. Don't let that get in the way of their story though.

There are 2 or 3 in these threads that hear things that aren't actually said. They also distort and distract by putting words in people mouths. Some even think they know why others think, telepathically.

HughFreakingDillon

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

Did we watch the same debate? All he did was mud sling. And done in such a way that he sounded like a middle schooler. He avoided talking policy at all costs, and when he was forced to, he embarassed himself. Hillary at least spoke about what she would do and how she would accomplish that. He pandered to his current base. A debate is to swing undecideds. He failed miserably on all fronts.

I watched the same debate. Remember that I don't like him either but I know a debate win when I see it. People who hate him will not be able to see how he owned it from front to back but I agree that it may not have moved the middle. That question I cannot answer but what nobody else can't answer is if the middle is willing to move to her? Her "terribleness" was put on full display. He brought her down massively without necessarily elevating himself. People do not like her and will continue to not like her. She excites nobody and depresses many. How that changes polling/turnout is anybody's guess.

sorry, I am fully capable of seeing debate win, and that wasn't even close to one. Maybe your definition of win is different than mine.

Gern Blansten

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I cant for the life of me understand how anyone can think trump won that debate. He openly diagrees with his VP on significant foreign policy, like going to war. He says russia is "new nuclear". What in the fuck does that even mean? He talks like he has the understanding of a bloody fifth grader. He threatens to throw her in jail if he wins. No other candidate has ever been so stupid as to do that. He answered none, seriously, NONE of the questions posed to him, while Clinton was very articulate and direct (sometimes a tad rambly) in most of her answers. A moderator had to explain to him what psychological warfare means. He is fucking stupid, and it just boggles my mind that he has any support at all. Republicans in all forms are abandoning him and we still have people on here bragging about how awesome he is. His VP releases a statement he cannot defend his comments. He openly admits to repeated sexual assault and zero respect for women. His own daughter wont kiss him after its over. His wife says she is appalled at his behaviour when they were newlyweds.

How can anyone support this buffoon? Are you so ignorantly ingrained in your partisanship and fear of the boogeyman that you'd vote in a monkey if he was dressed in red and wore a flag on his lapel? The republican party has been reduced to a laughingstock and is nothing more than a hashtag on twitter. Its actually sad for politics. Politics needs balance to sustain democracy. Neither party should have a monopoly, but Trump is single handedly gifting it to the dems.

He clearly "won" this debate. Again I have zero idea whether it helps him in anyway but it's a "win" amongst a change electorate.

Did we watch the same debate? All he did was mud sling. And done in such a way that he sounded like a middle schooler. He avoided talking policy at all costs, and when he was forced to, he embarassed himself. Hillary at least spoke about what she would do and how she would accomplish that. He pandered to his current base. A debate is to swing undecideds. He failed miserably on all fronts.

I watched the same debate. Remember that I don't like him either but I know a debate win when I see it. People who hate him will not be able to see how he owned it from front to back but I agree that it may not have moved the middle. That question I cannot answer but what nobody else can't answer is if the middle is willing to move to her? Her "terribleness" was put on full display. He brought her down massively without necessarily elevating himself. People do not like her and will continue to not like her. She excites nobody and depresses many. How that changes polling/turnout is anybody's guess.

I would agree that he won the debate among his base. Those people are ignorant enough to not know that he basically said nothing.

To me, as someone who has a pretty good grasp of the issues, he came across like a complete idiot. Clinton didn't do the greatest but based on who she had to debate I'm not sure we can really grade her.

PJ_Soul

Watched it with my family while at my sister's for Canadian Thanksgiving day dinner. For the first 20 minutes or so we honestly all thought that Trump was doped up or something. The way he was fidgeting and pacing around and how he was speaking in that weird monotone voice... it was so strange. My 11 year old nephew asked "what is wrong with that guy?" And then he started with that bizarre stalking of Hillary move for the rest of it, looming behind her as she spoke, then wandering back around the stage. Plus he was barely making sense half the time, literally. It was like he was stringing random, unrelated sentences together at some points. Really, it seemed to all of us like he was on the brink of a nervous breakdown or something.