I dont make very much at all. I dont think people should be making $15 an hour to START. Maybe there shoukd be minimum increases based on length of employment, etc, but $15 for an entry level job is too much. Or maybe base the starting wage on local economics, as pj soul eluded to.
Even for those with college degrees? $15/ hour would be less than $32k/ year.
if you are going to work at a fast food joint, your degree matters not.
if you are going to work in your field, a minimum wage shouldn't be required. industry standards should be good enough. generally college educated folks going into their field aren't making less than $15.
College educated, work in my field. Been at my job almost 15 years and I'm making just a little over this. It's ridiculous. I don't have kids. I don't know how anyone who does have kids survives on this pay scale, because I barely get by.
really? that's crazy.
There are a lot of jobs that require education but pay poorly (held by the great people of the world who don't think of money as priority #1) .... too bad so many people hate unions these days. This is the kind of thing unions fight to change.
I'm one of those. when I started in this job, it was 24K per year. Now, 10 years later, I'm about 37K, which is peanuts compared to pretty much everyone in my peer group (and I'm 42 years old). I thought I was in the minority.
I'm a structural engineer and started with 50K, which sounded great, until I realized that the people at my firm who had been there 15 years more than me were being paid only a bit more. I work in a different field now, took a steep pay cut to start out in it, but am finding more gratification in my job than I did as an engineer. For what it's worth, my university degree may have helped me get the job, but I'm not sure it contributed much to the salary.
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I dont make very much at all. I dont think people should be making $15 an hour to START. Maybe there shoukd be minimum increases based on length of employment, etc, but $15 for an entry level job is too much. Or maybe base the starting wage on local economics, as pj soul eluded to.
Even for those with college degrees? $15/ hour would be less than $32k/ year.
if you are going to work at a fast food joint, your degree matters not.
if you are going to work in your field, a minimum wage shouldn't be required. industry standards should be good enough. generally college educated folks going into their field aren't making less than $15.
College educated, work in my field. Been at my job almost 15 years and I'm making just a little over this. It's ridiculous. I don't have kids. I don't know how anyone who does have kids survives on this pay scale, because I barely get by.
really? that's crazy.
There are a lot of jobs that require education but pay poorly (held by the great people of the world who don't think of money as priority #1) .... too bad so many people hate unions these days. This is the kind of thing unions fight to change.
I'm one of those. when I started in this job, it was 24K per year. Now, 10 years later, I'm about 37K, which is peanuts compared to pretty much everyone in my peer group (and I'm 42 years old). I thought I was in the minority.
I'm one of those too. My salary is nearly $50K (and I admit that my benefits package is fucking insanely good, including 100% employer paid pension), but of course it's all relative because of location. $50K here is like $30K in most other places. And since I'm in the education sector, government funding is what dictates salary increases, which means those increases don't even come close to matching inflation or rising costs of living because Christy Clarke and the BC Libs are the WORST. Plus promotions here are practically meaningless if you're looking at pay raises. Anyway, nevertheless, I love my job and my employer (and my benefits!), so what the hell. Being content is worth more to me than cash.
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Oliver is great but what I get out of what he said is the same old, TRUMP IS SOOOO BAD...
well, yeah, of course he is. But how is that a reason to elect HRC? I just don't get that. I'm still voting for Stein.
Overwhelmingly, From what the media tells us, and that goes for every major channel, is that the fear of Trump is enough to vote HRC in.
Or there are those of us who couldn't care less what the media says, but we just get ignored. 2 out of the 4 of the nominees have about the same amount of policies that agree with me. However, only one is experienced enough to be a good president and move the country in what I see as the right direction. That person will be getting my vote, regardless of the flaws that have been blown out of proportion.
Oliver is great but what I get out of what he said is the same old, TRUMP IS SOOOO BAD...
well, yeah, of course he is. But how is that a reason to elect HRC? I just don't get that. I'm still voting for Stein.
Overwhelmingly, From what the media tells us, and that goes for every major channel, is that the fear of Trump is enough to vote HRC in.
Or there are those of us who couldn't care less what the media says, but we just get ignored. 2 out of the 4 of the nominees have about the same amount of policies that agree with me. However, only one is experienced enough to be a good president and move the country in what I see as the right direction. That person will be getting my vote, regardless of the flaws that have been blown out of proportion.
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I like Lester Holt a lot. That was a no win situation for him.
I like him too but he let Trump walk all over him. He was likely wanting to avoid any perceived bias against Trump but who could blame him if he would have just told him to shut up?
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I like Lester Holt a lot. That was a no win situation for him.
I like him too but he let Trump walk all over him. He was likely wanting to avoid any perceived bias against Trump but who could blame him if he would have just told him to shut up?
Honestly, I'd like to have seen this run professionally, instead of like the gimmicky reality TV show that this entire election has been. Turn off his fucking microphone when she's talking, and do the same to hers when he is. Cut off both microphones when Holt is addressing either person with a question. The committee had the ability to force decorum, and chose not to, even when they knew they needed to.
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I dont make very much at all. I dont think people should be making $15 an hour to START. Maybe there shoukd be minimum increases based on length of employment, etc, but $15 for an entry level job is too much. Or maybe base the starting wage on local economics, as pj soul eluded to.
Even for those with college degrees? $15/ hour would be less than $32k/ year.
if you are going to work at a fast food joint, your degree matters not.
if you are going to work in your field, a minimum wage shouldn't be required. industry standards should be good enough. generally college educated folks going into their field aren't making less than $15.
College educated, work in my field. Been at my job almost 15 years and I'm making just a little over this. It's ridiculous. I don't have kids. I don't know how anyone who does have kids survives on this pay scale, because I barely get by.
really? that's crazy.
There are a lot of jobs that require education but pay poorly (held by the great people of the world who don't think of money as priority #1) .... too bad so many people hate unions these days. This is the kind of thing unions fight to change.
I'm one of those. when I started in this job, it was 24K per year. Now, 10 years later, I'm about 37K, which is peanuts compared to pretty much everyone in my peer group (and I'm 42 years old). I thought I was in the minority.
I'm one of those too. My salary is nearly $50K (and I admit that my benefits package is fucking insanely good, including 100% employer paid pension), but of course it's all relative because of location. $50K here is like $30K in most other places. And since I'm in the education sector, government funding is what dictates salary increases, which means those increases don't even come close to matching inflation or rising costs of living because Christy Clarke and the BC Libs are the WORST. Plus promotions here are practically meaningless if you're looking at pay raises. Anyway, nevertheless, I love my job and my employer (and my benefits!), so what the hell. Being content is worth more to me than cash.
yeah, that's one of the reasons not many people leave where I work. our benefits are second to none, including a defined benefit plan. crazy stuff.
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I dont make very much at all. I dont think people should be making $15 an hour to START. Maybe there shoukd be minimum increases based on length of employment, etc, but $15 for an entry level job is too much. Or maybe base the starting wage on local economics, as pj soul eluded to.
Even for those with college degrees? $15/ hour would be less than $32k/ year.
Pay them $200/hr.
Why not 0.25$
Libertarian wages for everyone!
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If they could get people to work for it I'm good with it.
If they could get people to work for it I'm good with it.
You wouldn't be when your options were 25 cents an hour or no job.
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In a free society who are you to tell me what I should make or earn? You don't own me. I own me.
Your entire argument in raising a min wage reeks of desperation and zero understanding of economics. Why do you think the government wants it raised? Do you seriously believe that it is so people can have more money?
In a free society who are you to tell me what I should make or earn? You don't own me. I own me.
Your entire argument in raising a min wage reeks of desperation and zero understanding of economics. Why do you think the government wants it raised? Do you seriously believe that it is so people can have more money?
A free society lol. That's rich. You don't advocate a free society, you advocate a slave society. You advocate a utopia where capital holds more power than government and they magically hold back on using that power to subjugate labor out of the good of their hearts. Zero understanding of economics lol That's even richer! Your system failed. Miserably. As bad as communism, if not worse.
Why does the government want minimum wage raised? Well, only half the government does, and maybe, just maybe, it's because that is the will of the electorate??? Shocking thought, that politicians want to be re-elected. Nahhh, it must be a conspiracy to keep black people in the ghetto, yeah, that makes more sense.
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/30/presidential-debates-admits-trumps-mic-was-messed-up/
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-was-apparently-right-about-the-debate-microphone/502484/
Libertarian wages for everyone!
You wouldn't be when your options were 25 cents an hour or no job.
Your entire argument in raising a min wage reeks of desperation and zero understanding of economics. Why do you think the government wants it raised? Do you seriously believe that it is so people can have more money?
Godfather.
Zero understanding of economics lol
That's even richer! Your system failed. Miserably. As bad as communism, if not worse.
Why does the government want minimum wage raised? Well, only half the government does, and maybe, just maybe, it's because that is the will of the electorate??? Shocking thought, that politicians want to be re-elected. Nahhh, it must be a conspiracy to keep black people in the ghetto, yeah, that makes more sense.