Whites who open carry are proud, second amendment loving freedom fighters. Blacks who open carry are terrifying and a threat to everyone's safety.
It's a theme I pick up on. Watch reactions and pay attention to what specific events the NRA puts their energy into.
You'd be surprised that not all NRA members are open carry, gun toting, hillbilly, shoot em up, cowboy, freedom fighter, USA anthem praising, God fearing crazy conservatives, as the stereotype might suggest. I'm not in the NRA , but know people who are and you would never have suspected... Just saying. But, yes. The commercials and interviews with the NRA leaders are ridiculous...
That doesn't surprise me because I know several. I'm talking more about cases the nra gets involved in, who they advocate for, and images and themes they use in their delivery. This also guides public response and attitudes with regard to motivations and reasons to have a gun.
Reports are coming out that the family of the victim in NC saw the dash cam video. The lawyer was asked if the video supported the cops story of events. "no comment"
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Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Very disturbing video. Unbelievable. Why shoot to kill?? Maybe cops should use tranquilizer guns or something. I would agree that this event seemed like the cops were trigger happy... Crazy.
Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Did you take away the fact that he had a Traumatic Brain Injury? Or not hear that part?
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Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Did you take away the fact that he had a Traumatic Brain Injury? Or not hear that part?
I heard her say TBI but did not know what she meant by that. And if he did why was he the one to pick up the kids. Regardless he had a gun and did not follow commands. That's what got him shot.
I understand why black people might fear police and I understand why police might fear black people. It's a crappy situation and it doesn't appear to be getting better: there is no hope for some inner city youth and without hope... hostility and defiance grows within many.
Meaningful social programs might be the answer- I don't know for sure, but the status quo must change.
On the front (in the streets)... I anticipate a significant demand for law enforcement across the US in the coming years. I would hope that at least a few of the finger pointers around here might consider a career in the profession. Hell, they seem to talk as if they have ice running through their veins. I'd be curious to know if 2-3 years on the job might change their perspectives at all?
This. I think there's going to be a huge shortage of police in the next few years....who the hell would want to be a cop at this point? I came very close to going through the process to join Chicago PD a few years back. So happy I didn't....the job just keeps getting tougher and scrutiny is at an all time high. I have close friends and family members that are Chicago PD and the stories that you hear are just unbelievable.
Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Did you take away the fact that he had a Traumatic Brain Injury? Or not hear that part?
I heard her say TBI but did not know what she meant by that. And if he did why was he the one to pick up the kids. Regardless he had a gun and did not follow commands. That's what got him shot.
Summarily executed for not following an officer's commands. Shoot first and ask questions later. This is not right.
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I understand why black people might fear police and I understand why police might fear black people. It's a crappy situation and it doesn't appear to be getting better: there is no hope for some inner city youth and without hope... hostility and defiance grows within many.
Meaningful social programs might be the answer- I don't know for sure, but the status quo must change.
On the front (in the streets)... I anticipate a significant demand for law enforcement across the US in the coming years. I would hope that at least a few of the finger pointers around here might consider a career in the profession. Hell, they seem to talk as if they have ice running through their veins. I'd be curious to know if 2-3 years on the job might change their perspectives at all?
This. I think there's going to be a huge shortage of police in the next few years....who the hell would want to be a cop at this point? I came very close to going through the process to join Chicago PD a few years back. So happy I didn't....the job just keeps getting tougher and scrutiny is at an all time high. I have close friends and family members that are Chicago PD and the stories that you hear are just unbelievable.
I was thinking the same thing. Quality is going to go down.
Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Did you take away the fact that he had a Traumatic Brain Injury? Or not hear that part?
I heard her say TBI but did not know what she meant by that. And if he did why was he the one to pick up the kids. Regardless he had a gun and did not follow commands. That's what got him shot.
Summarily executed for not following an officer's commands. Shoot first and ask questions later. This is not right.
Or the fact that it appears he did not follow orders them came at the police. How else would you explain how he got from his truck to where he was laying after he was shot.
Two takeaways. One she does not sound that upset or emotional to just seeing her husband shot. She seems more worried about getting the video. And at the beginning of the video he is in his truck then after he is shot is is on the ground where on of the cops were standing. That would lead me to believe he came at the cops.
Did you take away the fact that he had a Traumatic Brain Injury? Or not hear that part?
I heard her say TBI but did not know what she meant by that. And if he did why was he the one to pick up the kids. Regardless he had a gun and did not follow commands. That's what got him shot.
Summarily executed for not following an officer's commands. Shoot first and ask questions later. This is not right.
Or the fact that it appears he did not follow orders them came at the police. How else would you explain how he got from his truck to where he was laying after he was shot.
At this point who knows. Saying he came at police holds as much validity right now as saying he staggered 10 feet clutching his heart as the blood pumped out of his body.
Very disturbing video. Unbelievable. Why shoot to kill?? Maybe cops should use tranquilizer guns or something. I would agree that this event seemed like the cops were trigger happy... Crazy.
cops are taught to shoot center mass, not at shoulders or legs.
I understand why black people might fear police and I understand why police might fear black people. It's a crappy situation and it doesn't appear to be getting better: there is no hope for some inner city youth and without hope... hostility and defiance grows within many.
Meaningful social programs might be the answer- I don't know for sure, but the status quo must change.
On the front (in the streets)... I anticipate a significant demand for law enforcement across the US in the coming years. I would hope that at least a few of the finger pointers around here might consider a career in the profession. Hell, they seem to talk as if they have ice running through their veins. I'd be curious to know if 2-3 years on the job might change their perspectives at all?
This. I think there's going to be a huge shortage of police in the next few years....who the hell would want to be a cop at this point? I came very close to going through the process to join Chicago PD a few years back. So happy I didn't....the job just keeps getting tougher and scrutiny is at an all time high. I have close friends and family members that are Chicago PD and the stories that you hear are just unbelievable.
and here's the most intelligent post of the year. because of these events who the hell is going to want to be a cop? the smartest candidates will now think twice and instead choose another career. this is kind of like what is happening to the teaching profession..
I understand why black people might fear police and I understand why police might fear black people. It's a crappy situation and it doesn't appear to be getting better: there is no hope for some inner city youth and without hope... hostility and defiance grows within many.
Meaningful social programs might be the answer- I don't know for sure, but the status quo must change.
On the front (in the streets)... I anticipate a significant demand for law enforcement across the US in the coming years. I would hope that at least a few of the finger pointers around here might consider a career in the profession. Hell, they seem to talk as if they have ice running through their veins. I'd be curious to know if 2-3 years on the job might change their perspectives at all?
This. I think there's going to be a huge shortage of police in the next few years....who the hell would want to be a cop at this point? I came very close to going through the process to join Chicago PD a few years back. So happy I didn't....the job just keeps getting tougher and scrutiny is at an all time high. I have close friends and family members that are Chicago PD and the stories that you hear are just unbelievable.
and here's the most intelligent post of the year. because of these events who the hell is going to want to be a cop? the smartest candidates will now think twice and instead choose another career. this is kind of like what is happening to the teaching profession..
I think it's been happening for a while. I had a friend who was going to join the NYPD but he made 3x more money working as a bartender.
sorry if it's been said ... anyone know why the cops were there in the first place?
I think they were there to serve a warrant to someone else. Not sure what this guy did to get their attention.
He was black.
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sorry if it's been said ... anyone know why the cops were there in the first place?
I think they were there to serve a warrant to someone else. Not sure what this guy did to get their attention.
I'm guessing they saw his firearm.
But doesn't that play into the narrative that black men are targeted by police. This is an open carry state. If a gun was seen in the car of a white guy in an open carry state would they have pulled their guns out?
Very disturbing video. Unbelievable. Why shoot to kill?? Maybe cops should use tranquilizer guns or something. I would agree that this event seemed like the cops were trigger happy... Crazy.
cops are taught to shoot center mass, not at shoulders or legs.
Sure. I know. But maybe they should be taught to try first at peripheral trunk, then center mass if and only if needed. This guy wasn't trying to kill anyone, rob anyone, disturb the peace. They just rolled up on him guns drawn. No matter what transpired he should have listened to the cops. But damn, 4 shots (that's what I counted listening to the video) and he's dead. Way extreme to me, but I wasn't there.
Very disturbing video. Unbelievable. Why shoot to kill?? Maybe cops should use tranquilizer guns or something. I would agree that this event seemed like the cops were trigger happy... Crazy.
cops are taught to shoot center mass, not at shoulders or legs.
Sure. I know. But maybe they should be taught to try first at peripheral trunk, then center mass if and only if needed. This guy wasn't trying to kill anyone, rob anyone, disturb the peace. They just rolled up on him guns drawn. No matter what transpired he should have listened to the cops. But damn, 4 shots (that's what I counted listening to the video) and he's dead. Way extreme to me, but I wasn't there.
I totally get what you are saying but within that split second decision it's tough. I pray that I am never in that situation. Four shots does seem extreme.
sorry if it's been said ... anyone know why the cops were there in the first place?
I think they were there to serve a warrant to someone else. Not sure what this guy did to get their attention.
I'm guessing they saw his firearm.
But doesn't that play into the narrative that black men are targeted by police. This is an open carry state. If a gun was seen in the car of a white guy in an open carry state would they have pulled their guns out?
I was only guessing. Maybe he pointed the gun at them? Who knows.
I understand why black people might fear police and I understand why police might fear black people. It's a crappy situation and it doesn't appear to be getting better: there is no hope for some inner city youth and without hope... hostility and defiance grows within many.
Meaningful social programs might be the answer- I don't know for sure, but the status quo must change.
On the front (in the streets)... I anticipate a significant demand for law enforcement across the US in the coming years. I would hope that at least a few of the finger pointers around here might consider a career in the profession. Hell, they seem to talk as if they have ice running through their veins. I'd be curious to know if 2-3 years on the job might change their perspectives at all?
This. I think there's going to be a huge shortage of police in the next few years....who the hell would want to be a cop at this point? I came very close to going through the process to join Chicago PD a few years back. So happy I didn't....the job just keeps getting tougher and scrutiny is at an all time high. I have close friends and family members that are Chicago PD and the stories that you hear are just unbelievable.
and here's the most intelligent post of the year. because of these events who the hell is going to want to be a cop? the smartest candidates will now think twice and instead choose another career. this is kind of like what is happening to the teaching profession..
One of my friends just graduated recently and is on the beat now and regrets every second of it since Ferguson...he said its been hell
Why was the wife so far away from the truck?? Why was she video taping while the police pulled up?? Why did she not try to intervene?? Not saying this whole thing was staged. Just seems strange... Of course I wasn't there and don't know the facts. And it's only snippet of video. And it's still fucked up regardless...
Why was the wife so far away from the truck?? Why was she video taping while the police pulled up?? Why did she not try to intervene?? Not saying this whole thing was staged. Just seems strange... Of course I wasn't there and don't know the facts. And it's only snippet of video. And it's still fucked up regardless...
I thought the same thing. She could be lying through her teeth just so it appears the police shot an innocent man.
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you hear police telling him to "drop the gun", then you her here saying "Keith, don't you do it"...wow
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Four shots does seem extreme.