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I would be interested in other stats too, like average amount a white person spends on a lawyer vs black. The difference could be in representation. Better lawyers can mean better deals, lesser charges, less time in jail..dignin said:We only have to look as far as the judicial system for hard proof that black males have a higher conviction rate for longer jail times than white males to see that systemic racism exists. To think that this would only apply to the judicial system would be naive.
Racial Gap in Men's Sentencing
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
What It’s Like to Be Black in the Criminal Justice System
These eight charts suggest there are racial disparities at every phase of the justice system.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/racial_disparities_in_the_criminal_justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html
Drug Sentencing Disparities
About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.
African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet
Would also be interested in subcategories, like which drug offenses are gang related. Many cities/counties have stiffer penalties for gang relations.
How many were multiple offenders.
Not that I'm interested enough to do the research myself, but interested enough to point it out....0 -
Just weed I'm assuming??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Legalize drugs.dignin said:We only have to look as far as the judicial system for hard proof that black males have a higher conviction rate for longer jail times than white males to see that systemic racism exists. To think that this would only apply to the judicial system would be naive.
Racial Gap in Men's Sentencing
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
What It’s Like to Be Black in the Criminal Justice System
These eight charts suggest there are racial disparities at every phase of the justice system.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/racial_disparities_in_the_criminal_justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html
Drug Sentencing Disparities
About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.
African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet
It's time.
The upside to doing so socially and financially is sky high.0 -
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.
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I used to be just a weed/hash kind of person.Stickman12 said:
Just weed I'm assuming??Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Legalize drugs.dignin said:We only have to look as far as the judicial system for hard proof that black males have a higher conviction rate for longer jail times than white males to see that systemic racism exists. To think that this would only apply to the judicial system would be naive.
Racial Gap in Men's Sentencing
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
What It’s Like to Be Black in the Criminal Justice System
These eight charts suggest there are racial disparities at every phase of the justice system.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/racial_disparities_in_the_criminal_justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html
Drug Sentencing Disparities
About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.
African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet
It's time.
The upside to doing so socially and financially is sky high.
I'm beginning to wonder about some of the other drugs though.
Our kids are smoking doped laced with fentanyl. Gangsters are reaping the profits. People are being thrown in prison and running afoul of the law working to distribute the drugs to the users (more complicity on the part of the privileged by the way).
Let's regulate it (work on quality control... also create many jobs in the science field of research and development).
Sell it legally (create multiple levels of jobs).
Tax it (create government revenue to support public sector industries)."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Is it because black people are deficient human beings? Is that the point you're trying to make? I'm at a loss as to what you're getting at.Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.
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That would be a great start. It would have a huge impact.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Legalize drugs.dignin said:We only have to look as far as the judicial system for hard proof that black males have a higher conviction rate for longer jail times than white males to see that systemic racism exists. To think that this would only apply to the judicial system would be naive.
Racial Gap in Men's Sentencing
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002
What It’s Like to Be Black in the Criminal Justice System
These eight charts suggest there are racial disparities at every phase of the justice system.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/08/racial_disparities_in_the_criminal_justice_system_eight_charts_illustrating.html
Drug Sentencing Disparities
About 14 million Whites and 2.6 million African Americans report using an illicit drug
5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites
African Americans represent 12% of the total population of drug users, but 38% of those arrested for drug offenses, and 59% of those in state prison for a drug offense.
African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months). (Sentencing Project)
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet
It's time.
The upside to doing so socially and financially is sky high.0 -
just one person's opinion: (I know the source isn't objective but it's pretty compelling evidence that his hands weren't raised)
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/20/terence-crutcher-shot-hands-heres-definitive-proof/I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Family of Keith Lamont Scott want videos released, Charlotte police say no.0
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black residents of the North Carolina city "hate white people because white people are successful and they're not."
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Hilary?JC29856 said:black residents of the North Carolina city "hate white people because white people are successful and they're not."
Who said it?Charlottesville 2013
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Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.0 -
muskydan said:
Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.
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Ahhh. Two of the spades found each other.....muskydan said:
Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.0 -
Ahhh, now this is really interesting. Calling someone a Spade is especially Racist where I come from.Smellyman said:
Ahhh. Two of the spades found each other.....muskydan said:
Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.0 -
I haven't heard that term used in a way referring to race in ages. Is that common knowledge here? Isn't it sort of like referring to someones coiffure as a "DA haircut"?muskydan said:
Ahhh, now this is really interesting. Calling someone a Spade is especially Racist where I come from.Smellyman said:
Ahhh. Two of the spades found each other.....muskydan said:
Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
absolutely not.dignin said:
Is it because black people are deficient human beings? Is that the point you're trying to make? I'm at a loss as to what you're getting at.Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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here's the thing. if a 2nd cop fired a tasered which means he felt at least somewhat threatened how can a jury honestly convict the officer in the killing? 2 different police officers felt threatened at the exact same moment, not just one. it seems like they charged this woman in a haste to quell the growing firestorm but sadly it will most likely lead to another firestorm if/when she is found not guilty.mcgruff10 said:just one person's opinion: (I know the source isn't objective but it's pretty compelling evidence that his hands weren't raised)
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/20/terence-crutcher-shot-hands-heres-definitive-proof/0 -
The argument would be, I'm guessing, that the taser is not lethal force. It doesn't require as high level of threat to use a taser than to you a gun. In fact, I believe cops don't even need to fear for their safety to use a taser, just need to justify using force which would only require noncompliance.pjhawks said:
here's the thing. if a 2nd cop fired a tasered which means he felt at least somewhat threatened how can a jury honestly convict the officer in the killing? 2 different police officers felt threatened at the exact same moment, not just one. it seems like they charged this woman in a haste to quell the growing firestorm but sadly it will most likely lead to another firestorm if/when she is found not guilty.mcgruff10 said:just one person's opinion: (I know the source isn't objective but it's pretty compelling evidence that his hands weren't raised)
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/20/terence-crutcher-shot-hands-heres-definitive-proof/0 -
Lord have mercy ! ain't it the truth !muskydan said:
Godfather, you appear to be dealing w/ someone who has stage 4 liberalism. Common sense is futile....Godfather. said:
scientific findings ? suspend logical thought ? dude you and a few others are living a fairy tale dream of self pity, are you one of those guy's who wears a t shirt that has "I'm so sorry" printed on the front ? your using race baiting babble and half truths to push a point that has no real logic to back it up.....fuck man just look at the news streaming any riot, notice anything similar about every friggin one ?dignin said:
I'm not even going to try and argue scientific findings and numbers with someone who's barely literate......and can suspend logical thought enough to vote for Trump.Godfather. said:the stat's ????? how about giving us the whole truth in the "stat's" why are black men more likely to be shot by police and please don't tell me it's the color of their skin because that's straight up bullshit.
Godfather.
you do the math on that one..why would anybody destroy their own neighborhood ? why are stores always looted at these "protest's"
then they have the ball to chant kill white people...I just can't imagine anybody being that stupid...but every time there they are.
Godfather.
Godfather.
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exactly!pjhawks said:
here's the thing. if a 2nd cop fired a tasered which means he felt at least somewhat threatened how can a jury honestly convict the officer in the killing? 2 different police officers felt threatened at the exact same moment, not just one. it seems like they charged this woman in a haste to quell the growing firestorm but sadly it will most likely lead to another firestorm if/when she is found not guilty.mcgruff10 said:just one person's opinion: (I know the source isn't objective but it's pretty compelling evidence that his hands weren't raised)
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/20/terence-crutcher-shot-hands-heres-definitive-proof/I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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