Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB
its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)
As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
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I think Sirens studio version is pretty good, but the song just doesn't work live in my opinion. it doesn't sound right live to me. it's missing something live. maybe too fast or too much guitar. i don't know. i just know it doesn't fit live at this time.
I think it doesn't translate well live bc you suddenly realize it really is pj playing that song it its just uncomfortable to be confronted with that reality.
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
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Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB
its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)
As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me. THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
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Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB
its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)
As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
Love Nothing Man and Black. Both in my top 10. The "ballads" and slower songs have been unfairly criticized IMO. I think Just Breathe, The End, and Future Days are other good tracks that are dismissed because they are not hard rock. To me it shows a maturation of the band.
I agree. But funny thing is, they have had slow songs on every album. That's what I love about this band. They have in your face fast songs, medium tempo and slow songs. Almost like their songs fit every mood, at least for me.
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
That's how I see it (or hear it, I should say). And that super cheesy intro.. "Hear the Si-ruuuuuuuuunnnssss." No, just... no! I have no problem with other ballads. Black, Garden, Indifference, Nothingman, Immortality, Off He Goes, Around the Bend, Wishlist, NAIS, Thin Air, Parting Ways, Thumbing, All or None, Parachutes, Speed of Sound, Just Breathe, Yellow Moon, Future Days, the 2nd disc of Lost Dogs - all excellent songs!
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
That's how I see it (or hear it, I should say). And that super cheesy intro.. "Hear the Si-ruuuuuuuuunnnssss." No, just... no! I have no problem with other ballads. Black, Garden, Indifference, Nothingman, Immortality, Off He Goes, Around the Bend, Wishlist, NAIS, Thin Air, Parting Ways, Thumbing, All or None, Parachutes, Speed of Sound, Just Breathe, Yellow Moon, Future Days, the 2nd disc of Lost Dogs - all excellent songs!
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me. THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
I love Yellow Moon
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I was just thinking about this the other day - they didn't play Sirens at Wrigley 2... Maybe the first time since their first Wrigley show in 2013 that they didn't play it! Weird...
I adore the outro...
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I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
That's how I see it (or hear it, I should say). And that super cheesy intro.. "Hear the Si-ruuuuuuuuunnnssss." No, just... no! I have no problem with other ballads. Black, Garden, Indifference, Nothingman, Immortality, Off He Goes, Around the Bend, Wishlist, NAIS, Thin Air, Parting Ways, Thumbing, All or None, Parachutes, Speed of Sound, Just Breathe, Yellow Moon, Future Days, the 2nd disc of Lost Dogs - all excellent songs!
Garden a ballad??!?
On the album, yeah, it feels more like a ballad imo. Live, definitely not so much.
I was a fan of Sirens, but that time has sadly elapsed.
I now associate the opening of that song with the douchebag (has to be a ten club member right?) in the Hampton GA who crowded up on me as uncomfortably as humanly possible, and then moved directly in front of me just to be a total dick just as Sirens began. I sang that shit as loud and off key as possible directly in his ear hole. What a LOSER.
Mark me down as confused/surprised as to why it gets so much hate. It's not a top-10 song for me or anything, but I like it and it's right in the mix with a couple other songs for # 3 on LB (My undisputed top-2 being Getaway and Infallible).
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Oh and Nothingman is one of the best songs ever written.
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Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB
its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)
As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
I don't love Nothingman...
Wait till we meet again young lady
We're also gonna have to talk about Last Kiss...Do I need to bring a bodyguard?
I've heard sirens 4 times, and I do like the song but Fenway 2 was the best I've heard them play it. And I love the outro when the crowd gets into it. And nothingman was a song I liked. But the song sparked something in me a few years ago, and now I just love it. Detroit 2014 was so amazing with release, oceans, and nothingman As the first 3 songs.... So fucking good. I would listen to the boot and repeat those songs at least three times over lol.
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me. THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
I love Yellow Moon
Yeah, I know that I am upside down on the popularity contest between Sirens and Yellow Moon. I think YM is awful and Sirens is good. Know most feel YM is awesome and Sirens is awful. Times played works out better for me - Sirens 71 to YM 25.
I don't like Sirens at all. It is my least favorite song on the album.
^^^^This!
Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me. THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
But Mike was inspired to write Sirens after seeing Roger Waters in concert. He was trying to write a Pink Floyd-y song, not a metal ballad.
I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc. but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad. the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me. THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
But Mike was inspired to write Sirens after seeing Roger Waters in concert. He was trying to write a Pink Floyd-y song, not a metal ballad.
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but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad.
the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.
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THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.
I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........
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I have no problem with other ballads. Black, Garden, Indifference, Nothingman, Immortality, Off He Goes, Around the Bend, Wishlist, NAIS, Thin Air, Parting Ways, Thumbing, All or None, Parachutes, Speed of Sound, Just Breathe, Yellow Moon, Future Days, the 2nd disc of Lost Dogs - all excellent songs!
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I adore the outro...
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as far as Nothingman, I don't know how in the world anyone could diss the power of that song "He Who Forgets, Will Be Destined to Remember" daaaamn!
I now associate the opening of that song with the douchebag (has to be a ten club member right?) in the Hampton GA who crowded up on me as uncomfortably as humanly possible, and then moved directly in front of me just to be a total dick just as Sirens began. I sang that shit as loud and off key as possible directly in his ear hole. What a LOSER.
I do like the outro.
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And nothingman was a song I liked. But the song sparked something in me a few years ago, and now I just love it.
Detroit 2014 was so amazing with release, oceans, and nothingman As the first 3 songs.... So fucking good.
I would listen to the boot and repeat those songs at least three times over lol.
Times played works out better for me - Sirens 71 to YM 25.
no....just no
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Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
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