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  • Not a fan because the solo reminds me too much of "Every Rose Has Its Thorn". I can't seem to shake that so I'm in line at the pisser too for this one!

    Fenway 2 line wasn't too bad since it was right after Even Flow!
    ...just got a fresh bottle.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    My second favourite off Lightning Bolt after Getaway.
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    I swear to God (even though I don't think there's one) that Sirens is the most embarassing thing they ever wrote, and its outro is annoying like few other things in this world.. They should show the world they are still bold and brave, and reach the level of creativity they hit with masterpieces like Binaural and Riot Act. It's not that I don't like love or sentimental songs.. Thin Air and Of the Girl are good example of how you can write good and smart love songs.. while Sirens just make me puke.
  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254

    I swear to God (even though I don't think there's one) that Sirens is the most embarassing thing they ever wrote, and its outro is annoying like few other things in this world.. They should show the world they are still bold and brave, and reach the level of creativity they hit with masterpieces like Binaural and Riot Act. It's not that I don't like love or sentimental songs.. Thin Air and Of the Girl are good example of how you can write good and smart love songs.. while Sirens just make me puke.

    Have you heard BIG WAVE??? :rofl:
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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    derbydave said:

    I swear to God (even though I don't think there's one) that Sirens is the most embarassing thing they ever wrote, and its outro is annoying like few other things in this world.. They should show the world they are still bold and brave, and reach the level of creativity they hit with masterpieces like Binaural and Riot Act. It's not that I don't like love or sentimental songs.. Thin Air and Of the Girl are good example of how you can write good and smart love songs.. while Sirens just make me puke.

    Have you heard BIG WAVE??? :rofl:
    Hey, I like that song.. expecially the outro riff alternating 4/4 and 5/4.. funny song.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168

    I swear to God (even though I don't think there's one) that Sirens is the most embarassing thing they ever wrote, and its outro is annoying like few other things in this world.. They should show the world they are still bold and brave, and reach the level of creativity they hit with masterpieces like Binaural and Riot Act. It's not that I don't like love or sentimental songs.. Thin Air and Of the Girl are good example of how you can write good and smart love songs.. while Sirens just make me puke.

    Now tell us how you really feel :rofl::rofl: Replace Sirens with Just Breathe and that would be about how I feel about that song :smiley:
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    Suziemay said:

    I swear to God (even though I don't think there's one) that Sirens is the most embarassing thing they ever wrote, and its outro is annoying like few other things in this world.. They should show the world they are still bold and brave, and reach the level of creativity they hit with masterpieces like Binaural and Riot Act. It's not that I don't like love or sentimental songs.. Thin Air and Of the Girl are good example of how you can write good and smart love songs.. while Sirens just make me puke.

    Now tell us how you really feel :rofl::rofl: Replace Sirens with Just Breathe and that would be about how I feel about that song :smiley:
    Ah! To be honest, JB is not my favorite song by any means, but it's ok.. At least, I don't feel a sense of nausea and diarrea and the feeling that PJ are slowly becoming the new bon jovi's when I listen to it.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    I think Sirens studio version is pretty good, but the song just doesn't work live in my opinion. it doesn't sound right live to me. it's missing something live. maybe too fast or too much guitar. i don't know. i just know it doesn't fit live at this time.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    way way too much hate.
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    pdalowsky said:

    way way too much hate.

    I hate to hate a pj song.. dont even like the solo..
    But I love a lot of other much hated songs, so I'm alright with myself..

  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045

    so glad no appearance at Wrigley....

    This times a million. Complete peace of drivel.
    also glad no Sleeping by myself or nothingman - and sirens - the snoozer trilogy in my book

    I can't stand when nothingman is in the 2 slot like they were doing for a few years..snoozer is right..
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  • I don't understand all the hate for Sirens either. I guess that's PJ fans for ya. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna let anybody hate on Nothingman in a thread that isn't even remotely related to it
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,996
    Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211

    Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB

    its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)

    As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    Have to say again I like it. (Try to balance so many 'not likes' lol)
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,996
    pdalowsky said:

    Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB

    its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)

    As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
    Love Nothing Man and Black. Both in my top 10. The "ballads" and slower songs have been unfairly criticized IMO. I think Just Breathe, The End, and Future Days are other good tracks that are dismissed because they are not hard rock. To me it shows a maturation of the band.
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    edited September 2016

    pdalowsky said:

    Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB

    its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)

    As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
    Love Nothing Man and Black. Both in my top 10. The "ballads" and slower songs have been unfairly criticized IMO. I think Just Breathe, The End, and Future Days are other good tracks that are dismissed because they are not hard rock. To me it shows a maturation of the band.
    And it shows a little range. There's an old joke that AC/DC is a great band that releases the same album every few years. Do people want Pearl Jam to be that? Besides, I always thought one of the hallmarks of this band was that they balanced hard rock aggressiveness with genuine sentimentality.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890

    pdalowsky said:

    Almost 3 years later and I still think it's the best song off LB

    its certianly one of the best, I wonder if Black was released today it would be dismissed as a ballad......(which remains my favourite of their whole catalogue)

    As for nothingman, hating on that one absolutely blows my mind
    Love Nothing Man and Black. Both in my top 10. The "ballads" and slower songs have been unfairly criticized IMO. I think Just Breathe, The End, and Future Days are other good tracks that are dismissed because they are not hard rock. To me it shows a maturation of the band.
    The only problem I have with Just Breathe is that I have heard it 3 out of the 7 shows I have been to and it always is in the first encore. The first encore is my favourite moment of a Pearl Jam show as it is the highest chance of getting a Lost Dogs song or other rarity that I have been waiting to hear and having Just Breathe fill that spot leaves me mildly disappointed.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    I can't believe there are 2 people in this thread that hate Nothingman. Easily a top 5 song for me. The crowd singalongs are amazing (see Hartford '10 version). Love it early in the set. It's a great 2nd song after a slow opener.
  • nostackedvinyl
    nostackedvinyl Maine Posts: 857
    LOVE Sirens
    it's a fragile thing, this life we lead.

    05/24/06, 06/28/08, 06/30/08, 05/17/10, 09/07/11, 09/11/11, 09/12/11, 09/14/11, 09/15/11, 10/15/13, 10/16/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 05/05/16, 05/08/16, 08/07/16, 09/02/18

    ev: 06/15/11