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  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,543
    I've heard sirens 4 times, and I do like the song but Fenway 2 was the best I've heard them play it. And I love the outro when the crowd gets into it.
    And nothingman was a song I liked. But the song sparked something in me a few years ago, and now I just love it.
    Detroit 2014 was so amazing with release, oceans, and nothingman As the first 3 songs.... So fucking good.
    I would listen to the boot and repeat those songs at least three times over lol.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797

    lolobugg said:

    I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc.
    but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad.
    the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.

    I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me.
    THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.

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    I love Yellow Moon
    Yeah, I know that I am upside down on the popularity contest between Sirens and Yellow Moon. I think YM is awful and Sirens is good. Know most feel YM is awesome and Sirens is awful.
    Times played works out better for me - Sirens 71 to YM 25.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    lolobugg said:

    Ok, I finally figured out which song Sirens reminds me of..........
    I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........

    https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw

    I like this post....it exonerates Poison and Slaughter!
    :rofl::rock_on:
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  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    here's a video I made a few months back-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ1Jsc1zCjU
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,136
    hear the sirens more and more in this here town

    no....just no
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  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,512

    here's a video I made a few months back-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ1Jsc1zCjU

    WTF
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  • lolobugg said:

    Ok, I finally figured out which song Sirens reminds me of..........
    I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........

    https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw

    :rofl:

    I don't like Sirens at all. It is my least favorite song on the album.

    ^^^^This!

    Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438

    lolobugg said:

    I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc.
    but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad.
    the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.

    I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me.
    THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.

    image
    But Mike was inspired to write Sirens after seeing Roger Waters in concert. He was trying to write a Pink Floyd-y song, not a metal ballad.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Hobbes said:

    lolobugg said:

    I find nothing wrong with any of the other ballads.. love nothingman, yellow moon, parachutes, etc.
    but like someone mentioned earlier. the chord progression in Sirens reminds me of some hair metal ballad.
    the music is much too similar to Poison or Slaughter or some of that shit for me.

    I know we have had conversation about these songs before and you hit it on the head for me.
    THIS is why I like Sirens and think Yellow Moon and Parachutes are weak. I love that McMelty still has some 80s Shadow type music flowing through his veins.

    image
    But Mike was inspired to write Sirens after seeing Roger Waters in concert. He was trying to write a Pink Floyd-y song, not a metal ballad.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    CM189191 said:

    Salon article from the other today that is relevant to this thread: The Millennial Whoop: The Simple Melodic Sequence That’s Showing Up All Over Contemporary Pop

    Saw this article and immediately thought of Unemployable.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited September 2016

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    When Sirens was first released I hated it. HATED it. For all the reasons people have mentioned, the hair metal power ballad sound, the solo was too much of an immediate departure into Comfortably Numb solo territory, the part about sending you into the arms of another man, etc... But now, now... well I can sort of tolerate it when it comes on after My Father's Son. But I've never gone out of my way to listen to it special, or happy to hear it at a show. I thought it was awesome when it was not played at Wrigley.

    Nothingman I love. Still, one of my favorite songs. If you want to hear the most flawless live version check out Brooklyn 13, I LOVE that one. Can see how it's a bit of drag right at the top of a show, but I never dislike it. I have no problems with the PJ slow songs except stuff like Sirens or The End just because I think Eddie's voice sounds awful on it and it should have been a solo song not a PJ track.

    Just Breathe I was never crazy about, but sometimes experiences change a song for you. When my son was just learning how to talk (later than most kids) one of the first songs he knew some of the words to was Just Breathe because it is on the Rockabye Baby PJ CD. So now I think of those early days when he would sing the end of some of the lines. And I went to a funeral where it was played by two musicians, an overdose at age 25, and now every time I hear it at a show it makes me cry. A schmaltzy song I never used to care one way or the other about, now brings tears to my eyes in concerts. Damn it.
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  • Wma31394
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    When Sirens was first released I hated it. HATED it. For all the reasons people have mentioned, the hair metal power ballad sound, the solo was too much of an immediate departure into Comfortably Numb solo territory, the part about sending you into the arms of another man, etc... But now, now... well I can sort of tolerate it when it comes on after My Father's Son. But I've never gone out of my way to listen to it special, or happy to hear it at a show. I thought it was awesome when it was not played at Wrigley.

    Nothingman I love. Still, one of my favorite songs. If you want to hear the most flawless live version check out Brooklyn 13, I LOVE that one. Can see how it's a bit of drag right at the top of a show, but I never dislike it. I have no problems with the PJ slow songs except stuff like Sirens or The End just because I think Eddie's voice sounds awful on it and it should have been a solo song not a PJ track.

    Just Breathe I was never crazy about, but sometimes experiences change a song for you. When my son was just learning how to talk (later than most kids) one of the first songs he knew some of the words to was Just Breathe because it is on the Rockabye Baby PJ CD. So now I think of those early days when he would sing the end of some of the lines. And I went to a funeral where it was played by two musicians, an overdose at age 25, and now every time I hear it at a show it makes me cry. A schmaltzy song I never used to care one way or the other about, now brings tears to my eyes in concerts. Damn it.

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    PJ_Soul said:

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
    Why relatable for most people? The thought of losing someone close to you doesn't resonate with all people?
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  • I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.
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  • lolobugg
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    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650

    PJ_Soul said:

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
    Why relatable for most people? The thought of losing someone close to you doesn't resonate with all people?
    Not sure what you're asking. Are you wondering why I said "most" and not "all"? I know there are people who have never lost someone and who don't think about such things, so yeah, most people, not all.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited September 2016

    lolobugg said:

    Ok, I finally figured out which song Sirens reminds me of..........
    I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........

    https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw

    :rofl:

    I don't like Sirens at all. It is my least favorite song on the album.

    ^^^^This!

    Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
    One of the best parts of your weekend was not listening to a song. Must have been a fun weekend you had there. :bee:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
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  • I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.