ANY BAND MEMBER SIGHTINGS IN BEWTEEN SHOWS AT FENWAY?

hedonist

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.

Not to mention our very own LBC, Joshua.

:clap:

JH6056

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

All I can say is this: you clearly have NO IDEA what kind of energy and commitment it takes to consistently put on 2.5+ hour shows for all these years. These guys are in their 50s, they have families, and they put on a THREE HOUR SHOW on Friday night. I'll just say it: you are asking and expecting WAY too f'in much if you think that the day in between, when they should be resting up and catching up with friends and relaxing so they can RE-CHARGE and deliver the goods on Sunday, that they should be swinging by HOB. No, they really should not.

Let me know when you do something physically and psychic-ly taxing and give it your ALL for 2 out of 3 days, and then spend a couple hours (because, as logistics go, it is a couple of hours to travel to HOB, hang out and say hi, and get back to your hotel, absolutely not any less time) going back to same group you were working for/with on that day off in between.

Fans like you want the amazing shows, the energy, the magic... and yet have zero clue what that takes out of them and what the idea of "re-charging your batteries" means so you can deliver again. Yet if they had swung by and hung out, then been that much more tired for Sunday, you'd be the first to complain that the show lacked energy.

Lastly, if your measure of whether they care or not about us fans is whether they show up for 1,000 lucky fans at a film screening in between 2 taxing long shows, AS OPPOSED TO measuring it by the shows they deliver, the music they deliver, and the way they try to look out for fans... you are shortsighted and I question why you value one film screening over all the rest of that magic they do. So I'll ask you: why? Why is them not showing up at HOB indication to you they don't care about us, compared to the shows they delivered Fri and Sun and for the rest of their careers?

Yeah, you do what they do, and then spend your day and night off doing more, and get back to us on what you did and how it went. Maybe you'll understand then?

bootlegger10

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.

I don't care as much as you think I do, but I've never been one to worship the band like some on here (maybe 10 years ago I did). I would run as fast and far as I could over a three hour period and likely throw up to get a $300,000 check (or whatever each band members' share was each night in Boston). So at the end of the day I am grateful that Pearl Jam exists, but I don't think just because the band played a long 3 hour show that I've been given a gift. It is the other way around. Your comment about "a day off" is hilarious to me, because most days are day offs for them. But, I agree they give their all on stage so I have no problems with their concerts (I just don't believe they are doing it for free like a lot of people on here).

I never claimed I was their biggest fan, but I would think if you are in the fan club you are big fans of the band.

My point wasn't that the band doesn't play energetic shows or aren't really great people off the stage (they all seem to be from what I read), but my point is that I am surprised that no one showed up to say thank you in person. The fans there would have loved it. I know the CEO of McDonald's doesn't show up and thank me every time I order a Big Mac, but I bet if there was a Big Mac festival somewhere a representative of McDonald's would have been there. If I arranged a thank you dinner for a group of my clients and didn't show it would be strange. I know this HOB was different, but to me the thoughtful thing to do if you were really sincere about how important you think the fans are that you would have taken the 20 minutes to say a few words before the screening of the video. So, I really was thinking how strange it is that we are all attending a replay of their concert together, and the band is in town but isn't there. It just made me wonder why we all care so much when the band couldn't care less about attending that event.

bootlegger10

JH6056 said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

All I can say is this: you clearly have NO IDEA what kind of energy and commitment it takes to consistently put on 2.5+ hour shows for all these years. These guys are in their 50s, they have families, and they put on a THREE HOUR SHOW on Friday night. I'll just say it: you are asking and expecting WAY too f'in much if you think that the day in between, when they should be resting up and catching up with friends and relaxing so they can RE-CHARGE and deliver the goods on Sunday, that they should be swinging by HOB. No, they really should not.

Let me know when you do something physically and psychic-ly taxing and give it your ALL for 2 out of 3 days, and then spend a couple hours (because, as logistics go, it is a couple of hours to travel to HOB, hang out and say hi, and get back to your hotel, absolutely not any less time) going back to same group you were working for/with on that day off in between.

Fans like you want the amazing shows, the energy, the magic... and yet have zero clue what that takes out of them and what the idea of "re-charging your batteries" means so you can deliver again. Yet if they had swung by and hung out, then been that much more tired for Sunday, you'd be the first to complain that the show lacked energy.

Lastly, if your measure of whether they care or not about us fans is whether they show up for 1,000 lucky fans at a film screening in between 2 taxing long shows, AS OPPOSED TO measuring it by the shows they deliver, the music they deliver, and the way they try to look out for fans... you are shortsighted and I question why you value one film screening over all the rest of that magic they do. So I'll ask you: why? Why is them not showing up at HOB indication to you they don't care about us, compared to the shows they delivered Fri and Sun and for the rest of their careers?

Yeah, you do what they do, and then spend your day and night off doing more, and get back to us on what you did and how it went. Maybe you'll understand then?

Most weeks I work 60+ hours and in several weeks in the year it is 70-80 hours. Trust me, they are in much better shape than me who is 15-20 years younger than them. I don't want to hear this garbage about they need a day off to spend time with family and friends.

At the end of the day, they had a 1,000 of their fans in a room, and none of them thought it would be a nice thing to acknowledge the fans before the video started. I thought that was strange. Sue me.

Oh, and to answer your question, the band gets paid to play the shows at Fenway. If they don't show at Fenway they don't get paid. What you do with your time when you aren't paid is what really shows how much you care.

tweedyfanjen

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.


EDITED, to add in also the contest hosted in which several fans won free tix to a PJ suite at Fenway for night two with the possibility to see sound check and have a meet & greet with members of the band which allegedly doesn't care about its fans.

That's all, end of rant now.

:clap:

PP193448

Bootlegger is entitled to his opinion, so let's not all try to stuff his opinion back in his throat... Let's stick it up his ass... just kidding

Mr. Hand

I don't care as much as you think I do, but I've never been one to worship the band like some on here (maybe 10 years ago I did). I would run as fast and far as I could over a three hour period and likely throw up to get a $300,000 check (or whatever each band members' share was each night in Boston). So at the end of the day I am grateful that Pearl Jam exists, but I don't think just because the band played a long 3 hour show that I've been given a gift. It is the other way around. Your comment about "a day off" is hilarious to me, because most days are day offs for them. But, I agree they give their all on stage so I have no problems with their concerts (I just don't believe they are doing it for free like a lot of people on here).

I never claimed I was their biggest fan, but I would think if you are in the fan club you are big fans of the band.

My point wasn't that the band doesn't play energetic shows or aren't really great people off the stage (they all seem to be from what I read), but my point is that I am surprised that no one showed up to say thank you in person. The fans there would have loved it. I know the CEO of McDonald's doesn't show up and thank me every time I order a Big Mac, but I bet if there was a Big Mac festival somewhere a representative of McDonald's would have been there. If I arranged a thank you dinner for a group of my clients and didn't show it would be strange. I know this HOB was different, but to me the thoughtful thing to do if you were really sincere about how important you think the fans are that you would have taken the 20 minutes to say a few words before the screening of the video. So, I really was thinking how strange it is that we are all attending a replay of their concert together, and the band is in town but isn't there. It just made me wonder why we all care so much when the band couldn't care less about attending that event.



I'll leave aside the majority of what could be said in response to a post like this, as it really just defies logic. This last part though is what really makes no sense. You state on one hand that you really "don't care" as much as I think you do, but then you state that you sat there on Saturday night "wondering why we all care so much", your words - which is it? Do you not care so much? Or do you care so much that you thought it strange the band did not attend HOB?

And for you to assume PJ "couldn't care less about attending the HOB event", simply because they were not present, is just a bald assertion without any basis. None of us have any idea if the band, its management, their tour manager, etc., discussed attending and ruled it out based on any infinite number of conflicts, either personal or professional, the band members may have had.

bootlegger10

PP193448 said:

Bootlegger is entitled to his opinion, so let's not all try to stuff his opinion back in his throat... Let's stick it up his ass... just kidding

Ha. I definitely understand the pushback. I just thought it was really odd that no one from the band showed up. I'm talking like one person. I am not talking about playing a concert or a song or anything like that. I understand even a meet and greet would be insane to manage so, really it is a quick drive to the venue, get out of the car and say a few words, and then get back in the car and head back to whatever they were doing.

bootlegger10

Mr. Hand said:

Bootlegger's Post
I don't care as much as you think I do, but I've never been one to worship the band like some on here (maybe 10 years ago I did). I would run as fast and far as I could over a three hour period and likely throw up to get a $300,000 check (or whatever each band members' share was each night in Boston). So at the end of the day I am grateful that Pearl Jam exists, but I don't think just because the band played a long 3 hour show that I've been given a gift. It is the other way around. Your comment about "a day off" is hilarious to me, because most days are day offs for them. But, I agree they give their all on stage so I have no problems with their concerts (I just don't believe they are doing it for free like a lot of people on here).

I never claimed I was their biggest fan, but I would think if you are in the fan club you are big fans of the band.

My point wasn't that the band doesn't play energetic shows or aren't really great people off the stage (they all seem to be from what I read), but my point is that I am surprised that no one showed up to say thank you in person. The fans there would have loved it. I know the CEO of McDonald's doesn't show up and thank me every time I order a Big Mac, but I bet if there was a Big Mac festival somewhere a representative of McDonald's would have been there. If I arranged a thank you dinner for a group of my clients and didn't show it would be strange. I know this HOB was different, but to me the thoughtful thing to do if you were really sincere about how important you think the fans are that you would have taken the 20 minutes to say a few words before the screening of the video. So, I really was thinking how strange it is that we are all attending a replay of their concert together, and the band is in town but isn't there. It just made me wonder why we all care so much when the band couldn't care less about attending that event.



Mr Hand's response (quoting messed up)
I'll leave aside the majority of what could be said in response to a post like this, as it really just defies logic. This last part though is what really makes no sense. You state on one hand that you really "don't care" as much as I think you do, but then you state that you sat there on Saturday night "wondering why we all care so much", your words - which is it? Do you not care so much? Or do you care so much that you thought it strange the band did not attend HOB?

And for you to assume PJ "couldn't care less about attending the HOB event", simply because they were not present, is just a bald assertion without any basis. None of us have any idea if the band, its management, their tour manager, etc., discussed attending and ruled it out based on any infinite number of conflicts, either personal or professional, the band members may have had.



Bootlegger's post:
We were all attending the event so we cared enough to be there. I didn't care that the band didn't show up (I didn't expect it) but what I found odd was they didn't. More from a business perspective really. Just thought it was really odd and that is why I was thinking about why we were all spending our evening in a hot theater watching the same show as the night before, but also why we buy all this merch and pay for all this travel. The shows are great, but to buy all this merch and spend all this time on message boards and Facebook isn't because they shows are so great but that we love the idea of Pearl Jam, and sometimes I wonder if we love it more than the band members do. That is probably a ludicrous statement but I do think we all get something different out of it.

on2legs

bootlegger10 said:

PP193448 said:

Bootlegger is entitled to his opinion, so let's not all try to stuff his opinion back in his throat... Let's stick it up his ass... just kidding

Ha. I definitely understand the pushback. I just thought it was really odd that no one from the band showed up. I'm talking like one person. I am not talking about playing a concert or a song or anything like that. I understand even a meet and greet would be insane to manage so, really it is a quick drive to the venue, get out of the car and say a few words, and then get back in the car and head back to whatever they were doing.

I would have never expected the band to show up to an event like that. 1,000 drunk fans who all think they are Pearl Jam's number one fan is a recipe for disaster.

Given2Fly-Fish

Just to set the record straight, I AM Pearl Jam's Number 1 Fan...

mpedone

I like the sentiment that "most days are days off" for the band. No need to practice, to write, do any of that stuff. Nope. Call it the curse of making it look so flippin' easy.

josevolution

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.


EDITED, to add in also the contest hosted in which several fans won free tix to a PJ suite at Fenway for night two with the possibility to see sound check and have a meet & greet with members of the band which allegedly doesn't care about its fans.

That's all, end of rant now.

Ditto !

pledgeagrievance

on2legs said:

bootlegger10 said:

PP193448 said:

Bootlegger is entitled to his opinion, so let's not all try to stuff his opinion back in his throat... Let's stick it up his ass... just kidding

Ha. I definitely understand the pushback. I just thought it was really odd that no one from the band showed up. I'm talking like one person. I am not talking about playing a concert or a song or anything like that. I understand even a meet and greet would be insane to manage so, really it is a quick drive to the venue, get out of the car and say a few words, and then get back in the car and head back to whatever they were doing.

I would have never expected the band to show up to an event like that. 1,000 drunk fans who all think they are Pearl Jam's number one fan is a recipe for disaster.

Seriously?

josevolution

bootlegger10 said:

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.

I don't care as much as you think I do, but I've never been one to worship the band like some on here (maybe 10 years ago I did). I would run as fast and far as I could over a three hour period and likely throw up to get a $300,000 check (or whatever each band members' share was each night in Boston). So at the end of the day I am grateful that Pearl Jam exists, but I don't think just because the band played a long 3 hour show that I've been given a gift. It is the other way around. Your comment about "a day off" is hilarious to me, because most days are day offs for them. But, I agree they give their all on stage so I have no problems with their concerts (I just don't believe they are doing it for free like a lot of people on here).

I never claimed I was their biggest fan, but I would think if you are in the fan club you are big fans of the band.

My point wasn't that the band doesn't play energetic shows or aren't really great people off the stage (they all seem to be from what I read), but my point is that I am surprised that no one showed up to say thank you in person. The fans there would have loved it. I know the CEO of McDonald's doesn't show up and thank me every time I order a Big Mac, but I bet if there was a Big Mac festival somewhere a representative of McDonald's would have been there. If I arranged a thank you dinner for a group of my clients and didn't show it would be strange. I know this HOB was different, but to me the thoughtful thing to do if you were really sincere about how important you think the fans are that you would have taken the 20 minutes to say a few words before the screening of the video. So, I really was thinking how strange it is that we are all attending a replay of their concert together, and the band is in town but isn't there. It just made me wonder why we all care so much when the band couldn't care less about attending that event.

The only reason your bent is because you bit on the acoustic rumored set you went there expecting something that didn't happen ..

HH140540

Interesting conversation here... All I can say is I was able to have a conversation with Eddie and it was like I was just talking to a normal dude. It was just the two of us in a room. He was super engaging, asking me questions about my wife, kids, and just life in general. He could not have been more humble and gracious. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole experience.

bootlegger10

josevolution said:

bootlegger10 said:

Mr. Hand said:

bootlegger10 said:

They were not seen at the House of Blues on Saturday night where there was a gathering of some of their biggest fans. It's not that I cared that they didn't stop by just to say a quick thank you, but the fact that they didn't care to do that themselves makes me wonder why I care so much about the band to spend an evening watching the same concert from the night before when they don't really care either.

It really did seem strange to me though that here they had 1,000 or so of their fan club members in a room and no one from the band came to acknowledge that. That is what I was thinking about until I started drinking more to get through the same show from the night before (and ended up having a great time).

As respectfully as I can, are you kidding? These guys pour 100% of their now 50-something souls into every concert they play, their fan club is better organized and delivers more opportunities to see this great band than any other fan club in existence, and then the fellas deliver a show for the ages on Friday night, and you're going to complain that they didn't show up to a FREE screening of the show (on their day off) because you're their "biggest fan"? How much is enough for you to be satisfied? What do they have to do to show you that they "really care" about the fan? This just seems like really, really sour grapes to me, when taken in consideration of the track record of the band trying to look out for the average fan as much as they possibly can. I mean really, the band "doesn't care" so much that you've got Ed reading fan club messages and making dedications to a guy's recently passed father on stage? I think some serious perspective is required here.

I don't care as much as you think I do, but I've never been one to worship the band like some on here (maybe 10 years ago I did). I would run as fast and far as I could over a three hour period and likely throw up to get a $300,000 check (or whatever each band members' share was each night in Boston). So at the end of the day I am grateful that Pearl Jam exists, but I don't think just because the band played a long 3 hour show that I've been given a gift. It is the other way around. Your comment about "a day off" is hilarious to me, because most days are day offs for them. But, I agree they give their all on stage so I have no problems with their concerts (I just don't believe they are doing it for free like a lot of people on here).

I never claimed I was their biggest fan, but I would think if you are in the fan club you are big fans of the band.

My point wasn't that the band doesn't play energetic shows or aren't really great people off the stage (they all seem to be from what I read), but my point is that I am surprised that no one showed up to say thank you in person. The fans there would have loved it. I know the CEO of McDonald's doesn't show up and thank me every time I order a Big Mac, but I bet if there was a Big Mac festival somewhere a representative of McDonald's would have been there. If I arranged a thank you dinner for a group of my clients and didn't show it would be strange. I know this HOB was different, but to me the thoughtful thing to do if you were really sincere about how important you think the fans are that you would have taken the 20 minutes to say a few words before the screening of the video. So, I really was thinking how strange it is that we are all attending a replay of their concert together, and the band is in town but isn't there. It just made me wonder why we all care so much when the band couldn't care less about attending that event.

The only reason your bent is because you bit on the acoustic rumored set you went there expecting something that didn't happen ..

No, I did not bite. I made the comment in the thread originally that the last time PJ played three nights in a row was 2006. I never thought they would play there because PJ is a business now. And because it is a business I was surprised that at least one person from the band did not show to say a quick few words like most businesses would have done. I am not bent on this because I am upset they didn't play a show, I am posting because I am looking at this objectively and from a non-rose colored glasses perspective it was weird no one showed up.

bootlegger10

It is silly to think that so many of you are so infatuated by the band (that you pay lots of $$$ to) that someone making a comment that from a business perspective (let alone a caring about your fans perspective) that it was strange that no one from the band showed up at the HOB to say a few words and acknowledge the fans was odd.

CantKeepmedown

bootlegger10 said:

The shows are great, but to buy all this merch and spend all this time on message boards and Facebook isn't because they shows are so great but that we love the idea of Pearl Jam, and sometimes I wonder if we love it more than the band members do. That is probably a ludicrous statement but I do think we all get something different out of it.

Of course we love it more than they do. I'm sure they love playing shows for their fans, and appreciate the hell out of being able to still do it 25 years later. They've all made a ton of money and I guarantee they are thankful for that. But this is a job for them and I assume when they are not committed to do something related to their job, more often than not they don't want to do it.

JC29856

was bierman there?