BITCHING AND RANTING WILL DO NOTHING.......stop buying just one damn show people take a unitied stand and don't buy FROM THE SECONARDY MARKET......hell they have all these campaigns play this play that, play here etc......what about the how the Breath MSG campaign was done
New York has one of the biggest metro populations in the United States, so you've got 10's of thousands of fans, plus bots, scalpers and what not all trying to buy tickets at the same time. If everyone tries at exactly the same time only a certain percentage are going to pull up anything.
You really think there are enough people interested in seeing Temple of the Dog so badly that they are on-line right at noon and buying all the tickets that MSG has?
yes. New York has 20 million in it's Metro area and this doesn't include all the other big cities that are less than a day's drive away. You only need a fraction of a fraction of a percent of those people wanting to go and it's not enough tickets.
I'd hate to live in a big market like that. Makes getting tickets next to impossible.
edit: That's when you need Stadium shows... lol. It's the same reason PJ can do stadium shows in Boston and Chicago. They're bigass cities with bigass populations. Sucks to buy tickets for arena shows in a metropolis. I'm not sure whats worse. Arena tickets in a metropolis, or theatre tickets for a city.
I'm down at a beach house for the week, so went up to the Boardwalk which has wifi...with my iPad and iPhone. At 12:00 the iPad had me wait in the typical "searching for tickets" for a good 5 mins, while safari on iPhone said "unable to process request". Then, I figured let me install the TM app on my phone while I was still in limbo on iPad. so I downloaded it, signed in, and scored 3 tickets in 200s. Had to have been 12:10 by the time all of that went down.
take a look at the board...people who bought TOTD tickets who had no intentions of going only to flip them for Fenway or Wrigley...which btw how can you even think that trade is even?
New York has one of the biggest metro populations in the United States, so you've got 10's of thousands of fans, plus bots, scalpers and what not all trying to buy tickets at the same time. If everyone tries at exactly the same time only a certain percentage are going to pull up anything.
You really think there are enough people interested in seeing Temple of the Dog so badly that they are on-line right at noon and buying all the tickets that MSG has?
yes. New York has 20 million in it's Metro area and this doesn't include all the other big cities that are less than a day's drive away. You only need a fraction of a fraction of a percent of those people wanting to go and it's not enough tickets.
I'd hate to live in a big market like that. Makes getting tickets next to impossible.
Living in a big market might make it hard to get tickets, but if you lived in a small market, the shows wouldn't ever really come around. That's what I tell myself when I get shut out of shows in LA. I shouldn't complain much when the shows just aren't in other areas at all.
I have never experienced anything like that before - in all of the times I have bought tickets for shows... The very second it went on sale it seemed sold out.
Really? This has been my experience for every single high demand show that I've tried for in the past 3 years. This is the norm now, not the exception. That said, I have still managed to get tix for every last one of them via TM. Just keep trying and buy a single. So far I've never been shut out from a show doing it that way.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
The way this entire sale with multiple pre sales was weird. Just felt there was a lot of chaos.
Of course I forgot to enter the 10C lottery so that's my fault. Had a family issue going on.
Was able to get a single about 15mjns in behind the stage
Every show has multiple pre-sales. AmEx, Citi, LiveNation App, Band Pre-sale, so on and so forth. fortunately, these only had fan club and not the others (though I honestly benefit from the others, but point is - there really shouldn't be too much bitching on these, as at least we had a chance).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
I found the part of the article about what the promoter's do is more interesting. They offer to pay bands more than they can physically make selling out the show. They take blocks of the tickets and directly sell them scalpers. All the blame goes on TM, but that practice is the one that pisses me off the most.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
I found the part of the article about what the promoter's do is more interesting. They offer to pay bands more than they can physically make selling out the show. They take blocks of the tickets and directly sell them scalpers. All the blame goes on TM, but that practice is the one that pisses me off the most.
I actually consider that to ultimately be the fault of the artists themselves. They are the ones demanding too much pay if the promoters are offering them that much. It's not like the promoters are doing that for fun.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
I found the part of the article about what the promoter's do is more interesting. They offer to pay bands more than they can physically make selling out the show. They take blocks of the tickets and directly sell them scalpers. All the blame goes on TM, but that practice is the one that pisses me off the most.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
That article said it all. After reading what the former CEO said no one should be surprised when tickets sell out right when they go on sale. It's all a fucking scam.
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If I knew where it was, I would take you there.
11/20/11 San Jose, Costa Rica
10/18/13 Brooklyn 1
10/19/13 Brooklyn 2
10/21/13 Philly 1
10/22/13 Philly 2 (BREATH!!)
10/25/13 Hartford
10/22/14 Denver (BREATH!!!)
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
New York has one of the biggest metro populations in the United States, so you've got 10's of thousands of fans, plus bots, scalpers and what not all trying to buy tickets at the same time. If everyone tries at exactly the same time only a certain percentage are going to pull up anything.
You really think there are enough people interested in seeing Temple of the Dog so badly that they are on-line right at noon and buying all the tickets that MSG has?
yes. New York has 20 million in it's Metro area and this doesn't include all the other big cities that are less than a day's drive away. You only need a fraction of a fraction of a percent of those people wanting to go and it's not enough tickets.
I'd hate to live in a big market like that. Makes getting tickets next to impossible.
I love living in this area. I've scored tickets to every MSG show they've played and most of the Camden/Philly ones too. The only ones I've skipped are because of work or family not the availability of tickets.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
Tm tends to delay the release of tickets as well. Tickets are usually scored 12-22 minutes in and then again later. True that there are only a small amount of tickets being released, but you need to stay on for an hour or so before you give up. Demand is really strong for these shows.
I can't believe that anybody actually attempts to buy tickets directly through TM. That whole setup is the biggest POS deal ever. It was bad enough 20+ years ago when you had to call in to the local TM outlet and all you were battling was the thousands of local fans trying to get through on the 10 phone lines they had. Now that you go through their computer system and you are battling actual fans (potentially) nationwide on top of those scumfuck brokers and their phonebots, it's the ultimate stacked deck. Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
i don't even try anymore. it's a wasted effort. if i really want to go to a show i'll find a ticket on that other site. as i get older i'd rather pay more for a quality seat anyway.
So are the additions of shows in San Fran, Philly and Seattle basically a done deal a while ago but they don't announce so that the fan clubs don't get any allocations? I.e., the band and promoters agree to it ahead of time?
So so frustrating :( fuck. Was on 20 seconds before the sale started. tried on my cell and computer under my account and husbands account. Sold out in seconds. Nothing even came up except for that god damn i'm not a bot box which irritates the fuck out of me. 23 minute later - nothing What a joke. Tried to get through on the phone. God damn automated system. Couldn't get through a live person.
Was Seattle night 2 an option through the 10club? (got shut out for night 1)
Vancouver, GM Place 2005
Vancouver, GM Place 2009
Seattle, EV Solo, Benaroya Hall 2011
Winnipeg, MTS Center, 2011
Manchester, June 2012
Phoenix, EV Solo, Comerica Theatre 2012
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One damn show people
~I don't care how many times you've seen them~
8/17/98 Noblesville, 8/18/00 Noblesville, 6/5/03 San Diego, 6/22/03 Noblesville, 9/11/05 Kitchener, 5/7/10 Noblesville, 9/15/11 Hamilton, 11/21/12 Memphis (Ed w/ Glen), 7/19/13 Wrigley, 10/11/13 Pittsburgh, 10/01/14 Cincinnati, 10/03/14 Saint Louis, 4/16/16 Greenville, 4/26/16 Lexington, 5/1/16 NYC, 5/2/16 NYC, 8/20/16 Wrigley, 8/22/16 Wrigley (For Hank), 8/18/18 Wrigley, 8/20/18 Wrigley (For Hank), 9/18/22 Saint Louis, 9/5/23 Chicago, 9/7/23 Chicago
Of course I forgot to enter the 10C lottery so that's my fault. Had a family issue going on.
Was able to get a single about 15mjns in behind the stage
Especially after reading the article that was linked on here a few months back inwhich the former CEO of TM spelled it out how by the time that tickets are "released to the public" there are probably only 10-15% left of what the house capacity is. Such a fucking scam. As pissed as so many people are about the prices that get charged on the secondary market, I have come to realize that more often than not if I really want to see a high demand show my first stop is a web site that rhymes with Schmub Shlub.
Philadelphia 2016 (Night 2)
Upper Darby 2016 (Night 2) (Temple of the Dog)
11/20/11 San Jose, Costa Rica
10/18/13 Brooklyn 1
10/19/13 Brooklyn 2
10/21/13 Philly 1
10/22/13 Philly 2 (BREATH!!)
10/25/13 Hartford
10/22/14 Denver (BREATH!!!)
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
If I knew where it was I would take you there.
Was Seattle night 2 an option through the 10club? (got shut out for night 1)
Vancouver, GM Place 2009
Seattle, EV Solo, Benaroya Hall 2011
Winnipeg, MTS Center, 2011
Manchester, June 2012
Phoenix, EV Solo, Comerica Theatre 2012