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unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
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The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    The crook hires the one behind suppressing the vote.

    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/07/24/hillary-clinton-hires-debbie-wasserman-schultz-n2197269
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Clinton supporters don't give a rats ass if she shoots someone in the face. They'll come up with some excuse as they always do than blame Russia and Trump.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Well I'll be! :smile:
    Welcome back on board the train, unsung.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Run DNC?

    Nice to see you back, unsung.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    Quite an apt summation by the way.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • TristeluneTristelune Posts: 318
    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    No offense but you're wrong, it's non voting that validates all of the above even if it comes down to choose the least dangerous candidacy.

  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895
    I read an article this morning talking about wasted 3rd party votes. While I disagree with that the article did make a good point about creating viable 3rd parties at the local and state level. That is what will give the country a real shot at creating competition for a 3rd party at the presidential level.

    BTW, welcome back unsung

    https://paulalanrichardson.com/2016/07/21/think-really-hard-before-voting-for-a-3rd-party-candidate-really/
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,943
    Wow. Welcome back. Did you go undercover for a couple years? Get hit in the head and lose your memory temporarily?
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    Jill Stein
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    like i've been saying ... revolution ...
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    tonifig8 said:

    Clinton supporters don't give a rats ass if she shoots someone in the face. They'll come up with some excuse as they always do than blame Russia and Trump.

    What?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    bootlegger10 said:

    Wow. Welcome back. Did you go undercover for a couple years? Get hit in the head and lose your memory temporarily?

    Nope, just got fed up with bootlickers telling me that govt can solve our problems when govt is the cause of most of them.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited July 2016
    Tristelune said:

    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    No offense but you're wrong, it's non voting that validates all of the above even if it comes down to choose the least dangerous candidacy.

    A. I don't get offended, because I don't use feelings when making decisions like these.

    B. I'm not wrong. Your participation in this system reinforces their entire charade. It is fixed to benefit the few. Clearly Sanders people can see that with this email release. Their entire system depends on division and distraction.

    C. I long for the day of a complete collapse of this political system. The system has become so power based and corrupt.

    D. I don't know how anyone can trust an election result after this.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    I can't disagree with this.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    Very interesting. The difference between now and decades ago though, was that journalism investigated our government officials when the media was strictly a public service. Journalists and media (mainstream), they're now on the same side and work for each other. (that's what privatization and the media own by six corporations gets us). So we have to rely on this new information age for the truth because we're not gonna get it from any other sources.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    Very interesting. The difference between now and decades ago though, was that journalism investigated our government officials when the media was strictly a public service. Journalists and media (mainstream), they're now on the same side and work for each other. (that's what privatization and the media own by six corporations gets us). So we have to rely on this new information age for the truth because we're not gonna get it from any other sources.
    Not sure if you saw this or how accurate it is, but since the FBI and the justice department didn't want to talk about the Clinton foundation, some private citizens did and this is some of what was discovered(I'm sure most of it has already been posted)

    "If we can spot these felony crimes, we are certain the FBI can do the same - if they wanted to...
    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?705296-Is-the-Clinton-Foundation-a-clever-scam-or-legit/
    The Saudis are funding 20% of Hillary's current presidential campaign.
    Four foreign leaders have contributed over $100 million
    Bill Cosby is even a donor
    Of the $6 Billion donated so far, less than 10% went to any charity
    Multi-millionaires and Wall Street banksters launder black money at CF
    See the above link for more details about the Russian uranium link, Chinagate and the hush moneys paid to cover up this mass murder of 911 all paid through the Clinton Foundation; http://www.scam.com/entry.php?3719-Hillary-Clinton-Protected-911-Saudi-Murderes-Since-2001-Rewarded-With-Over-10-Million-In-Donations-To-Clinton-Foundation
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    A true Sanders supporters would never vote for Clinton, then again he ended up endorsing her though.

    In 08 and 12 when I supported Ron Paul I voted 3rd party after he dropped out, and he didn't endorse the nominee of the party that just worked to get him out.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I guess where is Bernie? Why doesn't he rescind his endorsement of her with these revelations?
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Lets pretend for 5 minutes that none of this happened. No emails from inside the DNC tried to slow a Sanders namination. Would the outcome have been different?
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    unsung said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    A true Sanders supporters would never vote for Clinton, then again he ended up endorsing her though.

    In 08 and 12 when I supported Ron Paul I voted 3rd party after he dropped out, and he didn't endorse the nominee of the party that just worked to get him out.
    What I am finding on here, is that some people think that if your a Bernie supporter, you're going to do what he wants his supporters to do. But the thing about Bernie supporters is that we don't follow blindly. We're not going to vote establishment when we are so very anti-establishment. He may go back on his word but it doesn't mean we will. Fear will not play a factor in who I vote for.
    Post edited by Free on
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    unsung said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    A true Sanders supporters would never vote for Clinton, then again he ended up endorsing her though.

    In 08 and 12 when I supported Ron Paul I voted 3rd party after he dropped out, and he didn't endorse the nominee of the party that just worked to get him out.
    Sanders needs to get some Ted Cruz balls. At first I understood his sacrifice, I didn't agree but I understood. To see him on TV as recently as yesterday and to hear him say we need to do everything we can to elect Clinton broke my heart. I donated a lot of money and time to fight against the establishment, and now he's basically turning his back on us. I get that he's been in politics for decades and that he too is a politician, I'm not blind to that, but I thought he and the movement was about a greater cause- it's about "US", not her or him.
    F' you Sanders for saying that! Rant over

    Anyhow- welcome back ...
  • TristeluneTristelune Posts: 318
    unsung said:

    Tristelune said:

    unsung said:

    The GOP has been trumped. I love seeing them squirm.

    The Dems are actively working to alter results. I love that emails are showing the truth.

    The Libertarians nominated a CFR Globalist as VP. Nothing to love here.

    The LA Times calls for a coup if Trump wins. Nary a peep.

    Hillary proves over and over that she is the most evil person alive.


    Still going to vote? Voting validates all of the above. Good Luck.

    No offense but you're wrong, it's non voting that validates all of the above even if it comes down to choose the least dangerous candidacy.

    A. I don't get offended, because I don't use feelings when making decisions like these.

    B. I'm not wrong. Your participation in this system reinforces their entire charade. It is fixed to benefit the few. Clearly Sanders people can see that with this email release. Their entire system depends on division and distraction.

    C. I long for the day of a complete collapse of this political system. The system has become so power based and corrupt.

    D. I don't know how anyone can trust an election result after this.
    C. Collapsus of this political system is not a good idea unless there's a solid replacement solution. (Which is needed btw)

    D. I don't know how anyone can trust an election result since the Florida mess that got G.W Bush elected in 2000.

  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    A true Sanders supporters would never vote for Clinton, then again he ended up endorsing her though.

    In 08 and 12 when I supported Ron Paul I voted 3rd party after he dropped out, and he didn't endorse the nominee of the party that just worked to get him out.
    Sanders needs to get some Ted Cruz balls. At first I understood his sacrifice, I didn't agree but I understood. To see him on TV as recently as yesterday and to hear him say we need to do everything we can to elect Clinton broke my heart. I donated a lot of money and time to fight against the establishment, and now he's basically turning his back on us. I get that he's been in politics for decades and that he too is a politician, I'm not blind to that, but I thought he and the movement was about a greater cause- it's about "US", not her or him.
    F' you Sanders for saying that! Rant over

    Anyhow- welcome back ...
    I don't understand how sanders gets the anti establishment label when he's been in the establishment for so long.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Degeneratefk said:

    Lets pretend for 5 minutes that none of this happened. No emails from inside the DNC tried to slow a Sanders namination. Would the outcome have been different?

    yes and no ... if you add other caveats to your IF - such as a more objective media outlet ... no voter suppression ... etc ... then I would say the outcome could very well be different ...

    but either way - turning a blind eye to methods that are anti-democratic regardless of whether the outcome would have changed is really a self-rationalization of a personal bias ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Degeneratefk said:

    tonifig8 said:

    unsung said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:

    What's funny about all this is that Clinton continues to deny that the DNC was and continues to be rigged, while at the same time she says her "good friend" Debbie Wasserman Schultz will continue as her honorary campaign manager. She's fooling no one here and she looks like a jackass.

    She doesn't really want more votes does she. Completely out of touch.

    At this point she knows a larger percentage of us will never vote for her. Now it's time to flex some muscle and bring some of her soldiers home. there is a new battle on the horizon and I'm sure we'll see more of it within hours.

    The age of information. Interesting times.
    A true Sanders supporters would never vote for Clinton, then again he ended up endorsing her though.

    In 08 and 12 when I supported Ron Paul I voted 3rd party after he dropped out, and he didn't endorse the nominee of the party that just worked to get him out.
    Sanders needs to get some Ted Cruz balls. At first I understood his sacrifice, I didn't agree but I understood. To see him on TV as recently as yesterday and to hear him say we need to do everything we can to elect Clinton broke my heart. I donated a lot of money and time to fight against the establishment, and now he's basically turning his back on us. I get that he's been in politics for decades and that he too is a politician, I'm not blind to that, but I thought he and the movement was about a greater cause- it's about "US", not her or him.
    F' you Sanders for saying that! Rant over

    Anyhow- welcome back ...
    I don't understand how sanders gets the anti establishment label when he's been in the establishment for so long.
    definitely agree 100%
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    polaris_x said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Lets pretend for 5 minutes that none of this happened. No emails from inside the DNC tried to slow a Sanders namination. Would the outcome have been different?

    yes and no ... if you add other caveats to your IF - such as a more objective media outlet ... no voter suppression ... etc ... then I would say the outcome could very well be different ...

    but either way - turning a blind eye to methods that are anti-democratic regardless of whether the outcome would have changed is really a self-rationalization of a personal bias ...
    Exactly. Have you seen what some of these emails talked about? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    polaris_x said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Lets pretend for 5 minutes that none of this happened. No emails from inside the DNC tried to slow a Sanders namination. Would the outcome have been different?

    yes and no ... if you add other caveats to your IF - such as a more objective media outlet ... no voter suppression ... etc ... then I would say the outcome could very well be different ...

    but either way - turning a blind eye to methods that are anti-democratic regardless of whether the outcome would have changed is really a self-rationalization of a personal bias ...
    Yes and no? You can't change the media. Fox is always going to be right and CNN is always going to be left. Always. So I ask again, does it really matter that there were a few emails stating that some people in the DNC preferred Clinton to sanders. No, it wouldn't have mattered. I say partly because sanders ran as an anti establishment candidate, when he is in fact part of the establishment.
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    It really seems to me that the anti-Clinton faction is a group of single issue voters.

    Do they not care about anything beyond establishment vs anti-establishment?

    If you vote on a broad range of issues, the choice of Trump or Clinton is obvious, even if it uncomfortable.
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