How are businesses any better? Their only motive for doing anything is profit. In order to achieve profit they usually keep salaries low and cut corners if necessary. I'd love to believe if we had a free market that those businesses would go bankrupt because of their poor practices but as rgambs stated earlier, life wasn't so great in the 1850-1900 era. We can never have a true free market because humans are involved. If humans are involved, you will eventually have something screwing up the free market system.
So boycotting businesses with shady practices is not a valuable counter to said policies?
Of course it is. But how many people usually do this? Usually people that are involved and aware of these business practices. Seems like a lot of people drift along unaware or not terribly concerned about what happens right in front of them. Or they justify those practices because it benefits them more, i.e. shopping at Wal-Mart because its cheaper regardless of their known low wages and poor working conditions.
I'm idealistic but I feel that government could provide a balance to the overreach of business. I agree with you that government has gotten to big and that it should be relieved of some of its responsibilities but it can provide a good service to the people. For example, I think the only thing the government should do in regards to education is set standard curriculum for all states to follow. We should all be teaching the same content not picking and choosing what we teach based on our beliefs.
I agree on education.
As for the first paragraph, I have been boycotting shady businesses for years. You vote with your dollar every day. My daughter will gladly tell anyone that she (and me) boycotts McDonald's. I look out for companies that dump chemicals and hurt the environment and refuse to buy their products (Clorox, Roundup, etc) And we refuse to go to Walmart, we will go to a mom and pop store long before buying crap for cheap. And many people feel the same way, our friends and family who have personally been affected by Walmart especially (small business owners).
Agreed, and I do the same to most companies. But many people do not, even if it hurts their community, i.e. Wal-Mart. Most of the people that I know do not feel the need to vote with their dollars. Maybe it's a difference in where we live?
I've been boycotting McDonalds since May 1998. I won a free ice cream cone on a monopoly piece. When I went to claim it they said "you can't claim your prize the same day you win it." So the next day I stopped in on my drive home from school and this time they said "Sorry, that expired yesterday." Losers.
I give McDonald's credit for having great chocolate milkshakes. They used to be awful....like a bad frosty. Now they are on par with Steak-n-Shake.
I hate to say it but I love McDonald's. I can't believe I just typed that.
I think their fries are absolutely delicious.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
How are businesses any better? Their only motive for doing anything is profit. In order to achieve profit they usually keep salaries low and cut corners if necessary. I'd love to believe if we had a free market that those businesses would go bankrupt because of their poor practices but as rgambs stated earlier, life wasn't so great in the 1850-1900 era. We can never have a true free market because humans are involved. If humans are involved, you will eventually have something screwing up the free market system.
So boycotting businesses with shady practices is not a valuable counter to said policies?
Of course it is. But how many people usually do this? Usually people that are involved and aware of these business practices. Seems like a lot of people drift along unaware or not terribly concerned about what happens right in front of them. Or they justify those practices because it benefits them more, i.e. shopping at Wal-Mart because its cheaper regardless of their known low wages and poor working conditions.
I'm idealistic but I feel that government could provide a balance to the overreach of business. I agree with you that government has gotten to big and that it should be relieved of some of its responsibilities but it can provide a good service to the people. For example, I think the only thing the government should do in regards to education is set standard curriculum for all states to follow. We should all be teaching the same content not picking and choosing what we teach based on our beliefs.
I agree on education.
As for the first paragraph, I have been boycotting shady businesses for years. You vote with your dollar every day. My daughter will gladly tell anyone that she (and me) boycotts McDonald's. I look out for companies that dump chemicals and hurt the environment and refuse to buy their products (Clorox, Roundup, etc) And we refuse to go to Walmart, we will go to a mom and pop store long before buying crap for cheap. And many people feel the same way, our friends and family who have personally been affected by Walmart especially (small business owners).
Agreed, and I do the same to most companies. But many people do not, even if it hurts their community, i.e. Wal-Mart. Most of the people that I know do not feel the need to vote with their dollars. Maybe it's a difference in where we live?
I've been boycotting McDonalds since May 1998. I won a free ice cream cone on a monopoly piece. When I went to claim it they said "you can't claim your prize the same day you win it." So the next day I stopped in on my drive home from school and this time they said "Sorry, that expired yesterday." Losers.
I give McDonald's credit for having great chocolate milkshakes. They used to be awful....like a bad frosty. Now they are on par with Steak-n-Shake.
I hate to say it but I love McDonald's. I can't believe I just typed that.
I can't believe I just recently discovered the sausage mcmuffin with egg (you would think you could order a "sausage mcmuffin" and get a regular egg mcmuffin with sausage instead of canadian bacon but no...a "sausage mcmuffin" is just sausage/cheese/muffin...you have to say "sausage mcmuffin WITH EGG"
DELICIOUS!!
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I can't believe I just recently discovered the sausage mcmuffin with egg (you would think you could order a "sausage mcmuffin" and get a regular egg mcmuffin with sausage instead of canadian bacon but no...a "sausage mcmuffin" is just sausage/cheese/muffin...you have to say "sausage mcmuffin WITH EGG"
DELICIOUS!!
Yeah, the McDonald's egg mcmuffins are really good because they use fresh cracked eggs while most other fast food places use that egg mixture shit, which isn't nearly as good. And who can hate on an English muffin with a cracked egg, American cheese, and bacon or sausage? Okay, real cheddar would be nice, but still....
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
You guys keep eating that crap and I'm afraid YOU will implode!
Just looking out for you, friends!
Haha, thanks Brian! But I eat some McD's fries perhaps 4 times a year as a treat, and anything else (like a mcmuffin) maybe once a year, so I am definitely not going to worry about it!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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You guys keep eating that crap and I'm afraid YOU will implode!
Just looking out for you, friends!
Haha, thanks Brian! But I eat some McD's fries perhaps 4 times a year as a treat, and anything else (like a mcmuffin) maybe once a year, so I am definitely not going to worry about it!
If you're ever in Placerville, try John's fries at Old Town grill. To die for! I only have them once in awhile because no matter how well made, they're fries! But oh man, so good!!!
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DELICIOUS!!
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Just looking out for you, friends!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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