Getting Ugly In Dallas

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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    I feel with the families of the murdered cops.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    jnimhaoileoin said:

    SD48277 said:

    So where do we go from here?

    Add that to the list of questions on Brian's thread!
    A very good but hard question. I wish I knew the answer. We need a spark to get us going on a better path. We need good leaders. Where are they?
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I have a serious question, Yesterday in Dallas they first circulated a picture of a Black Male carrying a rifle. It turned out he turned his weapon in and then turned himself in once he knew he was a person of interest or suspect. Is it not reasonable to see why this man was a suspect. He was at the protest seen on camera with a rifle and shots were being fired by a rifle. I just heard on the news that he and his lawyers are weighing legal action against Dallas. Isn't that a bit of a stretch, could it be he was seen with a rifle that is why he was a suspect?

    I had some sympathy for the guy until I saw him in an interview. He answered a few questions and then his lawyer spoke for the rest of the interview. Complete dumbass and a gun nutter looking for a payday. Fuck him.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,792
    CH156378 said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I have a serious question, Yesterday in Dallas they first circulated a picture of a Black Male carrying a rifle. It turned out he turned his weapon in and then turned himself in once he knew he was a person of interest or suspect. Is it not reasonable to see why this man was a suspect. He was at the protest seen on camera with a rifle and shots were being fired by a rifle. I just heard on the news that he and his lawyers are weighing legal action against Dallas. Isn't that a bit of a stretch, could it be he was seen with a rifle that is why he was a suspect?

    I had some sympathy for the guy until I saw him in an interview. He answered a few questions and then his lawyer spoke for the rest of the interview. Complete dumbass and a gun nutter looking for a payday. Fuck him.
    I also saw an interview and he spoke but his brother was the one who also spoke ..
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,792
    SD48277 said:

    So where do we go from here?

    No where this will blow over time will pass , nothing will be done about police relations with minority communities , nothing will be done about gun reforms so yeah it will be status quo till the next tragedy and everybody will be all up in arms all the officials will say the same crap over & over !!!!
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,181
    The common theme to nearly all of the violent tragedies of late is that legislation and the government will be ineffective in achieving positive change.

    The changes needed all begin with the individual. From there, family, community, city, state and nation.

    Laws mandating tolerance, acceptance and peaceful coexistence of all human beings will do absolutely nothing if every individual isn't evolved enough to follow those laws.

    People on every side of every issue have to stop hating, fighting, bickering and killing on their own.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Annafalk said:

    I feel with the families of the murdered cops.

    I feel for the families of ALL of those murdered.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    dudeman said:

    The common theme to nearly all of the violent tragedies of late is that legislation and the government will be ineffective in achieving positive change.

    The changes needed all begin with the individual. From there, family, community, city, state and nation.

    Laws mandating tolerance, acceptance and peaceful coexistence of all human beings will do absolutely nothing if every individual isn't evolved enough to follow those laws.

    People on every side of every issue have to stop hating, fighting, bickering and killing on their own.

    Right on, all of it!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Annafalk said:

    I feel with the families of the murdered cops.

    Me too, Anna. Our local news has been showing the stories and families of the five lost. Sad.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    jerparker20 said:

    And then there's this f'n guy:

    http://beta.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-ambush/2016/07/08/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-calls-dallas-protesters-hypocrites-running-snipers-bullets

    Ah, yes. The same douchnozzle nazi who cheered after the Orlando tragedy. Why hasn't he been arrested yet?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    We Already Know How to Reduce Police Racism and Violence

    Recent research has shown cities what works. For starters, hire more female police officers.

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/cities-have-the-power-to-reduce-police-racism-and-violence
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    dudeman said:

    The common theme to nearly all of the violent tragedies of late is that legislation and the government will be ineffective in achieving positive change.

    The changes needed all begin with the individual. From there, family, community, city, state and nation.

    Laws mandating tolerance, acceptance and peaceful coexistence of all human beings will do absolutely nothing if every individual isn't evolved enough to follow those laws.

    People on every side of every issue have to stop hating, fighting, bickering and killing on their own.

    Well said, Dudeman. Kind of answers my question "Where are the good leaders"- maybe we need to be leaders of sorts by advocating for tolerance, acceptance and peace.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    jerparker20 said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I have a serious question, Yesterday in Dallas they first circulated a picture of a Black Male carrying a rifle. It turned out he turned his weapon in and then turned himself in once he knew he was a person of interest or suspect. Is it not reasonable to see why this man was a suspect. He was at the protest seen on camera with a rifle and shots were being fired by a rifle. I just heard on the news that he and his lawyers are weighing legal action against Dallas. Isn't that a bit of a stretch, could it be he was seen with a rifle that is why he was a suspect?

    Texas is an open carry state. He was within the law in Texas to be walking around with that rifle. It's a little f'd up, but legit there.
    Right. I completely disapprove of open carry, but if the law is going to allow people to carry assault weapons around at public gatherings, their being suspicious of people carrying guns at public gatherings is unfair.... and that is one of the reasons open carry is idiotic.
    FWIW, anyone who totes a gun around at a peaceful protest is an asshole IMO. I'm not saying it's fair this guy's photo was released in the media or anything, but I still think he's a jackass for feeling like bringing that gun to the rally (supposedly unloaded) was a good idea. Why do people do that?? I can only imagine it's done to intimidate. Lame. Gun culture strikes again.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited July 2016
    Free said:

    We Already Know How to Reduce Police Racism and Violence

    Recent research has shown cities what works. For starters, hire more female police officers.

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/cities-have-the-power-to-reduce-police-racism-and-violence

    Good article - all seems like common sense.... that threatens the old boys club and the young brahs alike. It's always been hard to limit male dominance.
    The body cams seem like an absolute given to me. Any resistance to that appears to be just complete acknowledgment that a police force doesn't want to expose all the shit they're doing wrong.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    PJ_Soul said:

    jerparker20 said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I have a serious question, Yesterday in Dallas they first circulated a picture of a Black Male carrying a rifle. It turned out he turned his weapon in and then turned himself in once he knew he was a person of interest or suspect. Is it not reasonable to see why this man was a suspect. He was at the protest seen on camera with a rifle and shots were being fired by a rifle. I just heard on the news that he and his lawyers are weighing legal action against Dallas. Isn't that a bit of a stretch, could it be he was seen with a rifle that is why he was a suspect?

    Texas is an open carry state. He was within the law in Texas to be walking around with that rifle. It's a little f'd up, but legit there.
    Right. I completely disapprove of open carry, but if the law is going to allow people to carry assault weapons around at public gatherings, their being suspicious of people carrying guns at public gatherings is unfair.... and that is one of the reasons open carry is idiotic.
    FWIW, anyone who totes a gun around at a peaceful protest is an asshole IMO. I'm not saying it's fair this guy's photo was released in the media or anything, but I still think he's a jackass for feeling like bringing that gun to the rally (supposedly unloaded) was a good idea. Why do people do that?? I can only imagine it's done to intimidate. Lame. Gun culture strikes again.
    I feel the same way. I was actually accused of being a racist on Facebook for suggesting the guy was an idiot for bringing an assault rifle to a peaceful protest. People are dumb.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jerparker20 said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I have a serious question, Yesterday in Dallas they first circulated a picture of a Black Male carrying a rifle. It turned out he turned his weapon in and then turned himself in once he knew he was a person of interest or suspect. Is it not reasonable to see why this man was a suspect. He was at the protest seen on camera with a rifle and shots were being fired by a rifle. I just heard on the news that he and his lawyers are weighing legal action against Dallas. Isn't that a bit of a stretch, could it be he was seen with a rifle that is why he was a suspect?

    Texas is an open carry state. He was within the law in Texas to be walking around with that rifle. It's a little f'd up, but legit there.
    Right. I completely disapprove of open carry, but if the law is going to allow people to carry assault weapons around at public gatherings, their being suspicious of people carrying guns at public gatherings is unfair.... and that is one of the reasons open carry is idiotic.
    FWIW, anyone who totes a gun around at a peaceful protest is an asshole IMO. I'm not saying it's fair this guy's photo was released in the media or anything, but I still think he's a jackass for feeling like bringing that gun to the rally (supposedly unloaded) was a good idea. Why do people do that?? I can only imagine it's done to intimidate. Lame. Gun culture strikes again.
    I feel the same way. I was actually accused of being a racist on Facebook for suggesting the guy was an idiot for bringing an assault rifle to a peaceful protest. People are dumb.
    You can get called a racist on here for far less.
    People call each other this far too quickly and this is part of the problem.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Free said:

    We Already Know How to Reduce Police Racism and Violence

    Recent research has shown cities what works. For starters, hire more female police officers.

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/cities-have-the-power-to-reduce-police-racism-and-violence

    After being pulled over for a busted taillight on July 6, Philando Castile informed a Minnesota police officer at his window that he owned a gun and had a license to carry it. As he reached for his license and registration....

    I stopped reading after that since we do not know that is what actually happened.
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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    Degeneratefk said:



    After being pulled over for a busted taillight on July 6, Philando Castile informed a Minnesota police officer at his window that he owned a gun and had a license to carry it. As he reached for his license and registration....

    I stopped reading after that since we do not know that is what actually happened.

    Until all the facts come out, it's speculation. If that audio of the pull over is real, then they were not pulled for a broken taillight. Plus the GF stated he said he told the officer he had a permit and weapon, now she is saying she told the officer.

    I'll wait until all the facts come out, before saying which side was right or wrong.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    EM194007 said:

    Degeneratefk said:



    After being pulled over for a busted taillight on July 6, Philando Castile informed a Minnesota police officer at his window that he owned a gun and had a license to carry it. As he reached for his license and registration....

    I stopped reading after that since we do not know that is what actually happened.

    Until all the facts come out, it's speculation. If that audio of the pull over is real, then they were not pulled for a broken taillight. Plus the GF stated he said he told the officer he had a permit and weapon, now she is saying she told the officer.

    I'll wait until all the facts come out, before saying which side was right or wrong.
    That was my point.
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  • brianlux
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    We Already Know How to Reduce Police Racism and Violence

    Recent research has shown cities what works. For starters, hire more female police officers.

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/cities-have-the-power-to-reduce-police-racism-and-violence

    Good article - all seems like common sense.... that threatens the old boys club and the young brahs alike. It's always been hard to limit male dominance.
    The body cams seem like an absolute given to me. Any resistance to that appears to be just complete acknowledgment that a police force doesn't want to expose all the shit they're doing wrong.
    Also agreed. Good sensible ideas in that article!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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