Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?
Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.
Florida is a red state so that no true Scotsman argument of this only happening in democrat run areas can stop right now.
Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?
Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.
Florida is a red state so that no true Scotsman argument of this only happening in democrat run areas can stop right now.
FL went to Obama twice. But they have a red gov and congress. It's the most bizarre state in the union, and it's not even close.
Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?
Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.
Florida is a red state so that no true Scotsman argument of this only happening in democrat run areas can stop right now.
FL went to Obama twice. But they have a red gov and congress. It's the most bizarre state in the union, and it's not even close.
For sure and nobody is making the argument that Islamists will only attack democrat run areas. I will make the argument however that they will research/plan and try to attack soft targets of ideological value.
Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?
Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.
Florida is a red state so that no true Scotsman argument of this only happening in democrat run areas can stop right now.
FL went to Obama twice. But they have a red gov and congress. It's the most bizarre state in the union, and it's not even close.
For sure and nobody is making the argument that Islamists will only attack democrat run areas. I will make the argument however that they will research/plan and try to attack soft targets of ideological value.
Of course, that is one of the requirements for it to be classified as terrorism. I wonder what Dylan Roof is thinking right now, he was set to be big news this week but now he is a back burner story.
An interesting summary here and a must watch video of an Imam's speech to a section of the Orlando Islamic community with specific words on gay people.
I'm disappointed in Obama's statement, why make someone like Trump right by failing to identify the terrorist as Islamic when it is obviously the case. I understand why they don't like to use the term "radical Islamic terrorist", but why add fuel to the fire?
I'm disappointed in Obama's statement, why make someone like Trump right by failing to identify the terrorist as Islamic when it is obviously the case. I understand why they don't like to use the term "radical Islamic terrorist", but why add fuel to the fire?
Agreed but the unfortunate reason is that Obama buys into the narrative as outlined by the "aggrieved Islamic community"... i.e. This is due to American foreign policy, it's due to Israel, it's due to Guantanmo, it's due to general cultural insensitivity etc. and if only we treat the Islamic community with more respect it will all go away. Well I am sorry Mr. President but none of these have anything to do with it. Radical Islamist hate gays and as per the video of the Iranian imam's speech above believe that it is compassionate and righteous to murder them.
It's because of the language used around terrorism, and Obama's smart enough to see how the term "Islamic terrorist" is used to manipulate and incite fear, and therefore move with misguided policies, e.g. banning Muslims from entering the country until we get this sorted out. When we start hearing the term "Christian terrorists", I suppose it makes sense to start saying "Muslim terrorists". They aren't acting from their religion, whether they claim to be Christian or Muslim.
It's because of the language used around terrorism, and Obama's smart enough to see how the term "Islamic terrorist" is used to manipulate and incite fear, and therefore move with misguided policies, e.g. banning Muslims from entering the country until we get this sorted out. When we start hearing the term "Christian terrorists", I suppose it makes sense to start saying "Muslim terrorists". They aren't acting from their religion, whether they claim to be Christian or Muslim.
I understand that perfectly, but there is more to be lost than gained with such deliberate use of language.
It's because of the language used around terrorism, and Obama's smart enough to see how the term "Islamic terrorist" is used to manipulate and incite fear, and therefore move with misguided policies, e.g. banning Muslims from entering the country until we get this sorted out. When we start hearing the term "Christian terrorists", I suppose it makes sense to start saying "Muslim terrorists". They aren't acting from their religion, whether they claim to be Christian or Muslim.
But don't you see how this is a massive problem? Instead of confronting the issue Obama is more concerned about how his words will be used to "manipulate" and "incite". That is a complete absence of leadership. He should be concerned with confronting radical Islam itself instead of being concerned about the behaviour of his political opposition. C'mon man!
It's because of the language used around terrorism, and Obama's smart enough to see how the term "Islamic terrorist" is used to manipulate and incite fear, and therefore move with misguided policies, e.g. banning Muslims from entering the country until we get this sorted out. When we start hearing the term "Christian terrorists", I suppose it makes sense to start saying "Muslim terrorists". They aren't acting from their religion, whether they claim to be Christian or Muslim.
But don't you see how this is a massive problem? Instead of confronting the issue Obama is more concerned about how his words will be used to "manipulate" and "incite". That is a complete absence of leadership. He should be concerned with confronting radical Islam itself instead of being concerned about the behaviour of his political opposition. C'mon man!
Speeches and nomenclature are not examples of confronting the problem. Intelligence, policies, spying, drone strikes (however you feel about that) etc are examples of confronting. This is why it doesn't matter to me, one bit, whether he uses the term Islamic or not.
So it's been determined that it's a terrorist I mean 20 dead is terrorist act but I'm wondering how fast they pin it on a Muslim ...
Wonder no further. As much as the apologists want to sprinkle unicorn poop and ferry dust on incidents like this, never forget you as an American are a infidel and must be slaughtered. More importantly God bless the victims and families of yet another terrorist attack.
"Unicorn poop and ferry dust". Telling. And the god tie in. Textbook.
oh how a large percentage of our population has same fked up hateful mindset as this guy. Fk, brain scans of typical Trump supporters match those of this killer. Guns gods and hating gays. Same shit.
And God didn't bless any of these folks did he? Made em gay but they can't act on it, living in Red state with stupid laws and then, then killing and injuring them. God fked em.
Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Off course it's really a dog chasing his tail syndrome in this country , what do we do ban all Muslims from entering the country and rounding up the ones that are already here , but still keep the same laws in place where any one even people on watch list can walk into gun shop and purchase any weapon that's there for sale ?? We are fucked !!
An interesting summary here and a must watch video of an Imam's speech to a section of the Orlando Islamic community with specific words on gay people.
I'm disappointed in Obama's statement, why make someone like Trump right by failing to identify the terrorist as Islamic when it is obviously the case. I understand why they don't like to use the term "radical Islamic terrorist", but why add fuel to the fire?
An interesting summary here and a must watch video of an Imam's speech to a section of the Orlando Islamic community with specific words on gay people. That is what real incitement looks like.
If anyone doesn't feel vile disgust when watching that video and hearing that guy speak is just as wacko in the brain as he. god, fuck I hate religion
I just found out about this massacre :( I am shocked and appalled at the amount of hate in the world--so disturbing! My heart goes out to the deceased, injured, friends and family affected. I hope for a better world, if its even still possible.
Even with a metal detector, at that point, I'm not sure what good it would have done.
My heart goes out to those people who were fucking ambushed, and those mourning them this morning.
from what I've read an officer engaged him outside the club; the shooter then went into the club. what the hell kind of device did he have? are there know suicide bombers active in the u.s.?! fuck
Early reports are calling that "device" an assault weapon.
Early reports also list Omar Mir Seddique Mateen as a registered Democrat.
Was it the democrat membership that allowed him to murder 50 plus people?
Assault weapon defenders have blood on their hands again today.
All weapons can technically be described as an assault weapon. It hasn't been reported as of yet what the make and model of the gun was or how it was purchased. Important details to know before we claim who has blood on their hands.
Maybe it was a knife? Maybe he killed 50 plus people with his bare hands? We don't really know yet do we?
Well we know it was a gun. What kind of gun though? How was it obtained? These things matter before we jump to general gun control conclusions. We also know it was inspired by Islamic Radicalism and that the gunman was known to authorities. We know he drove 2 plus hours to specifically attack a soft target. Could earlier profiling of this individual prevented this tragedy or would that have offended your progressive sensibilities? Could a gun in the hand of a security guard prevented this massacre or would that have offended your naive wish for a violent free world? There is a lot we still don't know for you to put "blood on people's hands". As far as I'm concerened the blood is on the hands of the attacker and those who shield his ideology from being confronted.
There really is no way to kill that many people that quickly with any other type of weapon other than an ar-15 or ak-47. Any other thought is just rhetoric.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
An interesting summary here and a must watch video of an Imam's speech to a section of the Orlando Islamic community with specific words on gay people.
Comments
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/17/world/middleeast/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html?_r=0
Click on link and search by region.
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/12/orlando-night-club-attack-by-known-wolf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/
That is what real incitement looks like.
Edit...Video added
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html
May all keep safe.
Pride fest this weekend all over the country.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
oh how a large percentage of our population has same fked up hateful mindset as this guy. Fk, brain scans of typical Trump supporters match those of this killer. Guns gods and hating gays. Same shit.
And God didn't bless any of these folks did he? Made em gay but they can't act on it, living in Red state with stupid laws and then, then killing and injuring them. God fked em.
It's a fake God believing problem. A masculinity problem.
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
http://time.com/4365411/orlando-shooting-donald-trump-tweet-congrats/
god, fuck I hate religion
http://www.allenbwest.com/michellejesse/breaking-man-with-weapons-explosives-arrested-in-california
we will find a way, we will find our place
"Out of compassion... Don't be embarrassed."
Gee yah. People are too 'embarrassed' to go kill some gay people. I mean... they really want to go kill gays, but just too embarrassed.
* Fixed to not hurt feelings.
The sad part is people on this train will find that post offensive.