Fort McMurray Alberta

mickeyrat

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

Annafalk

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Yes, some are definitely trying to create conflict I don't know why but it's sad.

brianlux

Annafalk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Yes, some are definitely trying to create conflict I don't know why but it's sad.

It is said Anna.


After getting back on track, this thread has become another bating clusterfuck by a few people who are reacting from the hip instead of actually READING THE POSTS.

Come on guys, everyone here was sympathetic with the victims of the fire including died in the wool environmental activist/conservationists like myself and then a few of you (not Lukin- we're good) come in here and act like dicks and try to make this into a political issue where it wasn't. What a fucking crock of shit.

mickeyrat

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

BS44325

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

dignin

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

Bullshit. It was Alberta and all of Canada including the oil industry that has rallied to help the people of Fort Mac. Everyone has.

I'm born and bred Albertan. Worked in the oil industry for years. Have friends that have lived and worked in Fort Mac for years, including my brother who has worked there for over 20 years. Spare me the bullshit, I know whats happening there.......you are talking about something you know shit about.

You obviously have an axe to grind.....take it somewhere else.

mickeyrat

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

tell ya what
my brother is a career firefighter. so it gets a little personal in anything related to these first responders.

take your bullshit up with pjsoul. shes been the only one . a handful of you came in here with a chip.

theres a time and place for everything. i think its time for you to go fuck yourself.

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

Bullshit. It was Alberta and all of Canada including the oil industry that has rallied to help the people of Fort Mac. Everyone has.

I'm born and bred Albertan. Worked in the oil industry for years. Have friends that have lived and worked in Fort Mac for years, including my brother who has worked there for over 20 years. Spare me the bullshit, I know whats happening there.......you are talking about something you know shit about.

You obviously have an axe to grind.....take it somewhere else.

I shall grind my axe here

BS44325

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

tell ya what
my brother is a career firefighter. so it gets a little personal in anything related to these first responders.

take your bullshit up with pjsoul. shes been the only one . a handful of you came in here with a chip.

theres a time and place for everything. i think its time for you to go fuck yourself.

It is not quite yet that time as nobody on here has slagged a first responder.

mickeyrat

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

tell ya what
my brother is a career firefighter. so it gets a little personal in anything related to these first responders.

take your bullshit up with pjsoul. shes been the only one . a handful of you came in here with a chip.

theres a time and place for everything. i think its time for you to go fuck yourself.

It is not quite yet that time as nobody on here has slagged a first responder.

been a series of "elitest charitable thoughts" from me here for them and you chose to "comment" and quote my posts and responses to yours.

I'll suggest you seek a a fellow canadians post that your real disagreement is with.

or just go fuck yourself. your choice

BS44325

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

tell ya what
my brother is a career firefighter. so it gets a little personal in anything related to these first responders.

take your bullshit up with pjsoul. shes been the only one . a handful of you came in here with a chip.

theres a time and place for everything. i think its time for you to go fuck yourself.

It is not quite yet that time as nobody on here has slagged a first responder.

been a series of "elitest charitable thoughts" from me here for them and you chose to "comment" and quote my posts and responses to yours.

I'll suggest you seek a a fellow canadians post that your real disagreement is with.

or just go fuck yourself. your choice

I don't think those are my only two choices.

lukin2006

After Fort McMurray fire, Alberta copes with ‘second disaster’ of misguided donations

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/after-fort-mcmurray-fire-alberta-copes-with-second-disaster-of-misguided-donations

lukin2006

Fort McMurray wildfire damage can be seen on new government app

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-mcmurray-damage-satellite-1.3583052

brianlux

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

You're really living up to you user name (minus the numbers). Why cannot a person be critical of an industry and at the same time be supportive of human beings? Maybe check out the thread titled- "The difference between being against an industry and being against the workers within an industry"- to get a further idea of what I'm talking about.

By trying to instigate and bate here, BS, you're blowing your credibility. You don't want a discussion, you just want to provoke. It's hard to take someone very seriously who just likes to piss people off.

BS44325

brianlux said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

You're really living up to you user name (minus the numbers). Why cannot a person be critical of an industry and at the same time be supportive of human beings? Maybe check out the thread titled- "The difference between being against an industry and being against the workers within an industry"- to get a further idea of what I'm talking about.

By trying to instigate and bate here, BS, you're blowing your credibility. You don't want a discussion, you just want to provoke. It's hard to take someone very seriously who just likes to piss people off.

Haaaa...the old username bit gets tossed around and yet I am the one who is losing credibility. You Brian are trying to have it both ways and if me pointing that out is instigating then so be it. The people of Fort McMurray need their industry to thrive right now and that is something you are dead set against. You want to send them love Brian? Call your elected representative and push for some pipelines.

mickeyrat

BS44325 said:

brianlux said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

You're really living up to you user name (minus the numbers). Why cannot a person be critical of an industry and at the same time be supportive of human beings? Maybe check out the thread titled- "The difference between being against an industry and being against the workers within an industry"- to get a further idea of what I'm talking about.

By trying to instigate and bate here, BS, you're blowing your credibility. You don't want a discussion, you just want to provoke. It's hard to take someone very seriously who just likes to piss people off.

Haaaa...the old username bit gets tossed around and yet I am the one who is losing credibility. You Brian are trying to have it both ways and if me pointing that out is instigating then so be it. The people of Fort McMurray need their industry to thrive right now and that is something you are dead set against. You want to send them love Brian? Call your elected representative and push for some pipelines.

maybe we should invade Saudi Arabia instead. They are thr drivers of price

mickeyrat

lukin2006 said:

Fort McMurray wildfire damage can be seen on new government app

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-mcmurray-damage-satellite-1.3583052

read this and a couple links within to other stories related.
very impressive in how things continue to be handled, in particular this next phase.
kudos.

brianlux

BS44325 said:

brianlux said:

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

BS44325 said:

mickeyrat said:

mickeyrat said:

BS44325 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.

so which poster in this thread is eddie?

still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.

Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!

You're really living up to you user name (minus the numbers). Why cannot a person be critical of an industry and at the same time be supportive of human beings? Maybe check out the thread titled- "The difference between being against an industry and being against the workers within an industry"- to get a further idea of what I'm talking about.

By trying to instigate and bate here, BS, you're blowing your credibility. You don't want a discussion, you just want to provoke. It's hard to take someone very seriously who just likes to piss people off.

Haaaa...the old username bit gets tossed around and yet I am the one who is losing credibility. You Brian are trying to have it both ways and if me pointing that out is instigating then so be it. The people of Fort McMurray need their industry to thrive right now and that is something you are dead set against. You want to send them love Brian? Call your elected representative and push for some pipelines.

OK, good call on the user name but me wanting it both ways? I seriously doubt you've really read any of my posts, particularly what I said in the "The difference between being against an industry and being against the workers within an industry" thread so this has become a dead-in-the-water discussion and the game grows tiresome.

PJ_Soul

Annafalk said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?

I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.

Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.

Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.

Yes, some are definitely trying to create conflict I don't know why but it's sad.

I totally agree.

PJ_Soul

1ThoughtKnown said:

I knew it wouldn't be long until people went off on how "awful awful awful" the "tar sands" are.

And the "huge role" in how devastating the fire was. Now the blame is heading towards the oil industry for every natural disaster we have.

*rolling my eyes*.. I don't belong here. While we all share the love of music but your view of the world is naive.
You have no idea how important oil is i(and will continue to be) in your daily lives. You want all of the modern conveniences that come with technology as long as it does not affect you personally.

Never bother to look at the advances made in industry over the last twenty years especially in ensuring environmental impact is reduced and often eliminated.

To all of you who provided donations to the Red Cross and other charities to help the victims of Fort Mac thank you. But as the city rebuilds, and the plants resume their million plus barrel a day output, your sympathy will be replaced by the pre-existing venomous attitude towards anyone in the oil industry as the "destroyers of the environment" and "climate changers" and all the other nonsense.

The same hard working people who lost their homes are the same people you would lose it on if they didn't 100% agree with your stance that oil,and specifically the oil sands, is horrible for the world. You know you wouldn't really like them, because they are mostly like me. Trying to defend the industry that brought them a good standard of living. That donated millions to the hospital, the recreation centres, the kids sports leagues. The flights to get workers out of the camps, the Red Cross for the victims and on and on and on.

The science and innovation to simply extract the oil from the sand! All the work done to completely eliminate the need for water in the future. I mean, it was all done for the ENVIRONMENT.

But instead of being moderate and compassionate and sensical by giving the industry some credit, they are "awful awful awful" and you really have no idea what you are talking about because you will only read or see what aligns with your belief system.

My hope is that this gives you some food for thought as you look around at all your modern conveniences today. Most city folk have no idea how all that shit ended up at IKEA just that its there. And when that crap breaks in six months you take it to the dump and bury it.

Oh the hypocrisy...

This is such bullshit that you quoted my "awful awful awful" and put it into this context. I have never seen you take something so badly put of context before and twist it for your own purpose, which is, apparently, to criticize everyone for nothing.