Can someone point to me the post that linked the fire and devastation to tar sand activity?
I have read nothing on here that reeks of insensitivity. Let me rephrase... there is a level of insensitivity, but it's on the misguided part of some trying to create conflict.
Everyone here knows oil is vital to society. Everyone here feels shitty for the Fort Mac people. Everyone here knows those people- like all working people- play their part in a productive society. Most everyone here encourages the best practices possible for the least invasive or destructive measures to extract oil.
Nobody here is saying Fort Mac got what it deserved and this is what has kind of been inferred. It's nonsense.
Eddie at Toronto 1 said that climate change was responsible. He said to deny this was to disagree with "the scientists". Like Neil he is one that believes that oil should be left in the ground for the sake of the planet and prior to this fire would have not have cared one lick for the people of Fort McMurray had their industry been legislated into oblivian. Obama and now Hillary are looking to legislate coal into oblivian and you don't see anyone caring for the people of West Virginia. I'm sorry but there is an absolute disdain for the energy industry on these boards and a complete disregard for the welfare of their employees and there is a straight line from the belief that the tar stands cause climate change and climate change caused the fire.
so which poster in this thread is eddie?
still waiting to have eddies post pointed out to me.
Head over to the climate change thread. The people who bash the oil industry over there trot over here to pay their respects to the people of Fort McMurray. Again... A month ago all of you would have applauded if Fort McMurray was legislated into oblivion and wouldn't have given one lick for it's people and there welfare. You can't separate the two threads no matter how much you try. You included Mr. "They had to ship in snow to Alaska for the iditorod!". It is the oil industry that employs that town. It is the oil industry that rallied to help that town. It will be the oil industry that rebuilds that town. If you all really want to help Fort McMurray you would save your elitist charitable thoughts and dollars and instead rally your President to approve that pipeline!
This is garbage.
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No matter who you are, what your political outlook is or what kind of work you do- if you've lived near this kind of thing you feel for these people because you know how serious it is and how concerning it is that you might lose everything you can't take with you (assuming you can get out). At the very least you know how bad your air sucks. This is some bad shit going on up there. Sorry to see it happen to them, to anyone.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yikes. If the fires actually reach the tar sands we're fucked.
A camp burned to the ground but they say the plants themselves are pretty well protected. But I guess you never quite know.
"Those massive plants used to process bitumen are surrounded by wide barriers of cleared firebreak and gravel, and employ their own firefighting crews, so the facilities themselves are unlikely to be threatened by the flames, said Chad Morrison, senior wildfire manager."
"The 665-room Blacksand Lodge work camp, about 35 kilometres from Fort McMurray, was destroyed by fire Monday night."
Yeah the weather this spring has been fucked up for sure ... Southwestern Ontario just had the coolest April in 20 years and this past Sunday morning traces of snow, and Fort Mac temps at times resemble our summers minus the humidity.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Been a couple weeks and things are beginning to get back to normal for some people.
Scottie Upshall, NHL player from Fort Mac, wrote something for the Players Tribune. It's a good read.. very touching. Also, a little nod to PJ in there
Been a couple weeks and things are beginning to get back to normal for some people.
Scottie Upshall, NHL player from Fort Mac, wrote something for the Players Tribune. It's a good read.. very touching. Also, a little nod to PJ in there
Cheers. I got choked up reading that. Plus I lived in Fort Mac when the Scottie Upshall led Oil Barons won the Royal Bank Cup and Dan O'Toole's sister was a roommate of mine for a brief period.
^^^ I did not know Dan OToole was from Fort Mac. I could not even imagine what those folks have been going through. Best wishes to you, your family and friends who are dealing with a difficult situation in Alberta.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/growing-wildfire-forces-evacuation-of-fort-mcmurray-oilsands-camps-1.3585037
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/oil-patch-producers-start-shutdown-as-wildfires-move-north/article30057695/
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Those massive plants used to process bitumen are surrounded by wide barriers of cleared firebreak and gravel, and employ their own firefighting crews, so the facilities themselves are unlikely to be threatened by the flames, said Chad Morrison, senior wildfire manager."
"The 665-room Blacksand Lodge work camp, about 35 kilometres from Fort McMurray, was destroyed by fire Monday night."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-mcmurray-firefighters-1.3585597
The weather in that part of the country is crazy right now. Quite a bit hotter than even the farthest south areas of the province.
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I'm sure Texas would love to send the rain they got.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Scottie Upshall, NHL player from Fort Mac, wrote something for the Players Tribune. It's a good read.. very touching. Also, a little nod to PJ in there
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/scottie-upshall-blues-fort-mcmurray-wildfire/
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
He worked in Fort Mac at the radio station. He grew up in Ontario. His sister moved out there for work (pretty common at that time)