Toronto 5/11 show OFFICIALLY moved to 5/12

lolobugg

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

SALLYROO

vzouzal said:

How sure are we about this? Seems like MLSE would have some say in this as well, and I can't see them wanting to tear down from the concert for the game, to then tear it all down again. Series don't follow a strict format all the time.....

I wondered that as well. Who pays the crew to do that twice. ACC? Obviously I have no idea how this works LOL. But someone asked me if the band would just move ahead a day and play May 9th and 10th, vs 10th and 11th. I know they play Ottawa the 8th and 3 nights in a row would be a drag but Ottawa isn't toooo far away... Oh well, if the band end up playing May 12th, I guess I'll be selling my Brian Jonestown Massacre tix (Danforth Music Hall).

Weston1283

The odds of this series being a sweep are minimal in my opinion.

I'm planning on the show being May 12th.

PJ_Soul

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

lolobugg

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

PJ Soul,
don't know if it is like this in Canada, but sports trumps all things in the USA. concerts are totally at the mercy of the all powerful leagues.

and btw.... basketball isn't my fave sport.... that is an old rap song.

RP112579

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

Canadian hockey teams aren't usually playing in May most years

And the NBA/NHL arenas won't pick a concert over the teams that use that facility 40+ games per season. In this case, the Raptors and Leafs would trump a concert. This is why it's ok to book multiple shows in Philly and NYC, because their basketball and hockey teams rarely make it to late April early May

Jimminez

The amount of money that an NBA playoff game brings versus a PJ show I'm sure is I'm sure dramatic. Not just ticket sales but the TV rights, sponsorships, etc. No one is paying extra from outside the venue for a PJ show while lots of money is flowing supporting a playoff game.

All this was likely set up and discussed at the time of booking the venue and the risk was assessed by the band knowing there was a chance. They will likely be on the hook for the tear down and set up between the two shows.

When the shows were announces, all dates we listed as subject to change.

Flyingw

Yes, this sucks. It was hard to not cheer for a Toronto team to do well in the playoffs.
I hope that we all get to enjoy the true PJ experience we know and love.
In trying to find a silver lining in all of this...I think that PJ will find solace in the fact that The Who had one of their shows postponed as a result of the Raptors' playoff schedule as well.
Perhaps there will be a Seattle SuperSonics-inspired event shirt/poster!
Here's hoping the Raptors sweep the Heat!

lolobugg

RP112579 said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

Canadian hockey teams aren't usually playing in May most years

And the NBA/NHL arenas won't pick a concert over the teams that use that facility 40+ games per season. In this case, the Raptors and Leafs would trump a concert. This is why it's ok to book multiple shows in Philly and NYC, because their basketball and hockey teams rarely make it to late April early May

dude, they me about it... my Knicks have sucked since Isaiah Thomas did them on all fours.
they might never recover...

PJ_Soul

RP112579 said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

Canadian hockey teams aren't usually playing in May most years

And the NBA/NHL arenas won't pick a concert over the teams that use that facility 40+ games per season. In this case, the Raptors and Leafs would trump a concert. This is why it's ok to book multiple shows in Philly and NYC, because their basketball and hockey teams rarely make it to late April early May

All I know is that I have never heard of Rogers Arena in Vancouver rescheduling a concert to accommodate a Canucks playoff game (and yes, believe it or not they have played in the playoffs more often than not, haha!). And I'm pretty sure that the Vancouver Grizzlies never had to worry about it.

RP112579

lolobugg said:

RP112579 said:

PJ_Soul said:

lolobugg said:

"We're playing BAS-KET-Ball" We're playing BASS-KET-Ball!!!

basketball is my favorite sport, I love they way they dribble up and down the court.

And up and down and up and down, back and forth and back and forth for what seems like an eternal loop in time.

Anyway, this is surprising to me. Obviously it does happen, but I'm not used to seeing it. Perhaps this is more a basketball thing, because I've never seen a hockey playoff game force the rescheduling of a concert before. I would have expected the venue and the NBA would honour previously booked events and work around them as seems to be the case with the NHL (as far as I've noticed).

Canadian hockey teams aren't usually playing in May most years

And the NBA/NHL arenas won't pick a concert over the teams that use that facility 40+ games per season. In this case, the Raptors and Leafs would trump a concert. This is why it's ok to book multiple shows in Philly and NYC, because their basketball and hockey teams rarely make it to late April early May

dude, they me about it... my Knicks have sucked since Isaiah Thomas did them on all fours.
they might never recover...

At least the Rangers have had a decent season or two recently. But the Knicks are just awful.

GJ125369

It is what it is but I don’t get why the NBA didn’t just shift the final 3 games to May 12th,14th, and 16th. I’m not seeing any other schedule conflicts and there aren’t even any NBA games scheduled for May 14th. Also the Warriors-Blazers series plays game 7 on the 16th if necessary so it’s not as if round 2 would have been running an extra day. I hope everyone’s still able to make the show!

derbydave

lolobugg said:

PJ Soul,
don't know if it is like this in Canada, but sports trumps all things in the USA. concerts are totally at the mercy of the all powerful leagues.

and btw.... basketball isn't my fave sport.... that is an old rap song.

I'm sure only us "Old Folks" remember this song Logan!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_shxzlTRK44

rummy

GJ125369 said:

It is what it is but I don’t get why the NBA didn’t just shift the final 3 games to May 12th,14th, and 16th. I’m not seeing any other schedule conflicts and there aren’t even any NBA games scheduled for May 14th. Also the Warriors-Blazers series plays game 7 on the 16th if necessary so it’s not as if round 2 would have been running an extra day. I hope everyone’s still able to make the show!

EXACTLY.

lolobugg

derbydave said:

lolobugg said:

PJ Soul,
don't know if it is like this in Canada, but sports trumps all things in the USA. concerts are totally at the mercy of the all powerful leagues.

and btw.... basketball isn't my fave sport.... that is an old rap song.

I'm sure only us "Old Folks" remember this song Logan!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_shxzlTRK44

that's my man!!!
thanks for the link, Dave.
brings back some memories

Sandy66

I don't think I can change my flights without it costing me a fortune and I also bought my ticket on stubhub anyone have any ideas what happens there?

PJ_Soul

rummy said:

GJ125369 said:

It is what it is but I don’t get why the NBA didn’t just shift the final 3 games to May 12th,14th, and 16th. I’m not seeing any other schedule conflicts and there aren’t even any NBA games scheduled for May 14th. Also the Warriors-Blazers series plays game 7 on the 16th if necessary so it’s not as if round 2 would have been running an extra day. I hope everyone’s still able to make the show!

EXACTLY.

Yeah, totally agree. Rescheduling the show is a huge pain for many people, while just booking the games for a couple days later would cause no probs for anyone. I don't get it.... I guess doing that could delay the next round slightly... perhaps that's why they feel they HAVE to do this.

100 Pacer

Sandy66 said:

I don't think I can change my flights without it costing me a fortune and I also bought my ticket on stubhub anyone have any ideas what happens there?

Not familiar with how these things work but what happens if you miss your flight and wait it out for the next available flight?

Ryan

100 Pacer said:

Sandy66 said:

I don't think I can change my flights without it costing me a fortune and I also bought my ticket on stubhub anyone have any ideas what happens there?

Not familiar with how these things work but what happens if you miss your flight and wait it out for the next available flight?

This is an interesting thought if it's the same day. Most of us are looking at changing from May 12 to May 13 though so I think this would be tougher to pull off.

EM194007

GJ125369 said:

It is what it is but I don’t get why the NBA didn’t just shift the final 3 games to May 12th,14th, and 16th. I’m not seeing any other schedule conflicts and there aren’t even any NBA games scheduled for May 14th. Also the Warriors-Blazers series plays game 7 on the 16th if necessary so it’s not as if round 2 would have been running an extra day. I hope everyone’s still able to make the show!

It's the TV contracts, which are worth a lot more money then any concert, period.

gw246601

http://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2016/05/02/pearl-jam-will-be-bumped-if-raptors-go-to-game-5.html

demetrios

https://twitter.com/PearlJam/status/727211196122841092

oxcer

If anyone does need to sell your ticket to the show once it moves to the 12th, let me know. I would take a single ticket or pair. Can't afford what the resale prices I'm seeing. Thanks,

Zod

It's pretty crazy they can do that. My experience has been with the NHL, but I don't think I've ever seen a concert get bumped because of an NHL playoff game. They try not to schedule in too many concerts, and they're room to put the game a day before after a concert.

Is it only the NBA that wields this power? NHL is pretty sloppy with their scheduling in the first. In the regular season they give teams all sorts of days off then make them do back to back games. In the play offs they some teams start the 2nd day, have a 3 day off window. This was the first year I remember the second round starting before the 1st round was done. I guess that creates more flexibility with scheduling.

PJNB

It has happened in the NHL as well but they have also played back to back games to make up for it in some occasions.

Zod

I guess I'm lucky i'm in Canucks country, it's generally not much of an issue here

somebodyelsessky2020

Well this news just really really sucks.

foodboy

all tickets will be honoured for new date in case anyone is wondering.

BeerBaron

Zod said:

It's pretty crazy they can do that. My experience has been with the NHL, but I don't think I've ever seen a concert get bumped because of an NHL playoff game. They try not to schedule in too many concerts, and they're room to put the game a day before after a concert.

Is it only the NBA that wields this power? NHL is pretty sloppy with their scheduling in the first. In the regular season they give teams all sorts of days off then make them do back to back games. In the play offs they some teams start the 2nd day, have a 3 day off window. This was the first year I remember the second round starting before the 1st round was done. I guess that creates more flexibility with scheduling.

It seems as though a lot of people are assuming that PJ hasn't been aware of this potential conflict since the tour was booked. I highly doubt that this scenario wasn't known to the band when the tour was booked. They have likely had the necessary contingency plans in place since day 1.

walkunafraid

I'm a rabid basketball fan, and I feel extremely confident that neither of these teams is good enough (or fresh enough, coming off 7-game series) to sweep.

Heat in 6, PJ concert on 5/12.