Pearl Jam Cancels 4/20 Raleigh, NC Concert in Opposition to HB2; Official Band Statement

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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited April 2016

    """""If the "next cool thing" is to stand up against discrimination, then I hope everyone starts trying to be cool. I did not know what was going on in NC until I heard about the Bruce cancellation. It's an unfortunate fact that when a band takes a stand it gets more media play, which is more effective than just a speech from a stage.""""""

    then cancel the entire tour...if this is a true message then they need to do that because other states have just as bad laws, if not worse than NC

    I get your point, seriously I do, but the Denver show with Ed wearing a Bush mask got more press than them cancelling this show did...so don't downplay the message on stage...also, why not hold a rally (like someone mentioned in a different thread) and raise money and then put on the concert and donate some of the proceeds?

  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,071
    JP Losman said:

    Mike D88 said:

    I gotta say I'm entertained by all these hastily reasoned posts that basically boil down to "I hope they cancel your show too." That'll learn 'em guys.

    No, its a matter of showing that this wasn't a genuine action by them but mere grandstanding and riding Bruce's hard. If you are going to stand up for civil rights, then stand up for it. Don't just do what's trendy and don't be a hypocrite.
    It is lame that this ending segregation thing and giving women the right to vote got to be so trendy.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Mike D88 said:

    I gotta say I'm entertained by all these hastily reasoned posts that basically boil down to "I hope they cancel your show too." That'll learn 'em guys.

    It is very different having this happen.

    When Bruce cancelled, I felt pretty cavalier about it... thinking if they cancel, that is fine.
    But once they did and I got the message yesterday, especially this close when I was packed, itinerary for the trip set, arrangements finalized, etc.... it was tough. A good deal of anger and disappointment that I didn't expect.

    I have been watching and enjoying the shows thus far on periscope. Started watching last night and shut it off after a couple minutes, just not in the mood.

    I really wouldn't have expected that.

    So people coming to chime in with comments to poke people disappointed/venting with sticks, please consider the perspective.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    JP Losman said:

    Mike D88 said:

    I gotta say I'm entertained by all these hastily reasoned posts that basically boil down to "I hope they cancel your show too." That'll learn 'em guys.

    No, its a matter of showing that this wasn't a genuine action by them but mere grandstanding and riding Bruce's hard. If you are going to stand up for civil rights, then stand up for it. Don't just do what's trendy and don't be a hypocrite.
    Totally agree. Where was this cancellation when that law was enacted? Nope. Wait and see what liberals of greater renown do first and then follow suit.
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  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,071
    edited April 2016
    pjalive21 said:

    """""If the "next cool thing" is to stand up against discrimination, then I hope everyone starts trying to be cool. I did not know what was going on in NC until I heard about the Bruce cancellation. It's an unfortunate fact that when a band takes a stand it gets more media play, which is more effective than just a speech from a stage.""""""

    then cancel the entire tour...if this is a true message then they need to do that because other states have just as bad laws, if not worse than NC

    I get your point, seriously I do, but the Denver show with Ed wearing a Bush mask got more press than them cancelling this show did...so don't downplay the message on stage...also, why not hold a rally (like someone mentioned in a different thread) and raise money and then put on the concert and donate some of the proceeds?


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    I completely agree that Bruce and PJ should hold a rally.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,851
    I just want a statement on why they didn't cancel 4 florida shows.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337

    JP Losman said:

    Mike D88 said:

    I gotta say I'm entertained by all these hastily reasoned posts that basically boil down to "I hope they cancel your show too." That'll learn 'em guys.

    No, its a matter of showing that this wasn't a genuine action by them but mere grandstanding and riding Bruce's hard. If you are going to stand up for civil rights, then stand up for it. Don't just do what's trendy and don't be a hypocrite.
    Totally agree. Where was this cancellation when that law was enacted? Nope. Wait and see what liberals of greater renown do first and then follow suit.
    It's a movement. Not a trend. Nothing wrong with following a movement, Pearl Jam doesn't have to be the leader.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    listening to Vitalogy right now, and this came out of me:

    Clenching my teeth…..
    Hurts my head……
    Your inconvenience…..
    Might be them dead……

    Gotta do something…..
    Something more than just bitch….
    Anything’s better than nothing……
    Take a mile from their inch……

    Be who you are…..
    Your soul trumps all…..
    Anger does not equal hate…..
    Love does not fall……..

    The backwards in power……
    Know not what they do……
    You steal the seeds from the flower…..
    Builds an army from the few……
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  • SR91748SR91748 Posts: 151
    I'm proud of the band, and this is the kind of thing that makes PJ special to me. I think it was a tough decision, for all reasons discussed. I think standing in solidarity with Bruce and others played a significant role in the decision. I was at Seattle when Ed came out and sang with Bruce, and when he was done, he gave Bruce and Patti a big hug. These are real friends who care about shared causes, and want to use their influence to make a difference. It is working too. On Sunday morning, the Governor for North Carolina was on Meet The Press, taking tough questions over the same issue, and then they had a roundtable discussing his interview. Glad PJ is keeping the heat on. There's an opportunity to make a difference.
  • theebradnesstheebradness Quincy, IL originally from Weymouth, MA Posts: 280
    JP Losman said:

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!


    They are making a statement that they are huge hypocrites by not taking a stand against all the explicit racial discrimination in America via the racist voter ID laws. They are making a huge statement by being hypocrites by playing Chile, which has some of the worst human rights violations and laws including no abortions even in the situation of rape.
    That is true. Every country has problems, but when the home turf is being stupid and discriminatory, art can make a difference. I agree that they probably wouldn't have cancelled if Bruce hadn't, but it is what it is.
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  • theebradnesstheebradness Quincy, IL originally from Weymouth, MA Posts: 280

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!

    And when you land in Chicago from, say Seattle, two days prior to the shows... and they cancel the shows for the discriminatory practices of the Chicago PD... sing the same tune... right?

    You just might so your comment can stand as it is. I'm just saying it's really easy to applaud PJ when you're not sitting in a Best Western in Raleigh twiddling your thumbs.
    I would also be super pissed, but I'd try and make the best out of it. Hang out in Chicago with my wife, have lots of drinks. I get being mad and venting but some of the attitudes on this forum smack of entitlement, like the band only exists for them.
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    STL 2014
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    I'm a lucky man to count on both hands the ones I love.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!

    And when you land in Chicago from, say Seattle, two days prior to the shows... and they cancel the shows for the discriminatory practices of the Chicago PD... sing the same tune... right?

    You just might so your comment can stand as it is. I'm just saying it's really easy to applaud PJ when you're not sitting in a Best Western in Raleigh twiddling your thumbs.
    I would also be super pissed, but I'd try and make the best out of it. Hang out in Chicago with my wife, have lots of drinks. I get being mad and venting but some of the attitudes on this forum smack of entitlement, like the band only exists for them.
    to me it's understandable. people save sometimes year round for this, and then all that money and sacrifice is worthless. people can be sensitive to the issues but also be upset. it's not mutually exclusive.
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  • JF657419JF657419 Posts: 12
    Mike D88 said:

    I gotta say I'm entertained by all these hastily reasoned posts that basically boil down to "I hope they cancel your show too." That'll learn 'em guys.

    Did you enjoy the show at Amalie? I did. It was great, I was side stage. They played Little Wing, my fav Hendrix song and a relative tour rarity. I was holding my son about 30 feet away from Mike as he played the solo behind his head.

    Sure is easy to be judgmental as long as it isn't your show affected. I got my show in and still think it is messed up how it went down for fans in Raleigh.
  • I am very curious if the full order of show posters and city specific shirts/stickers was made for Raleigh. This information, if ever made available, will be how I judge the band on their timing of the announcement. I have no issue with them cancelling out of principal.

    Was it a spontaneous decision that they finally agreed to yesterday? OR did they not even have the city specific merch created knowing they were going to do this a week or two ago? Meaning fans continued to make plans and commit their money to an event that the band knew they were going to cancel. I do not know but I really hope the fans were not used as pawns.

    I hope peace returns to the fan club.

  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,300
    Are they seriously staying at the Four Seasons in Raleigh right now? Because how do you justify cancelling this show as part of a boycott and then pump hotel and restaurant dollars into the local economy? That isn't a boycott. That's taking a midtour vacation.
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  • JF657419JF657419 Posts: 12
    JimmyV said:

    Are they seriously staying at the Four Seasons in Raleigh right now? Because how do you justify cancelling this show as part of a boycott and then pump hotel and restaurant dollars into the local economy? That isn't a boycott. That's taking a midtour vacation.

    Well they already had the hotel booked, see, and they would have lost out on all that money spent for ... oh.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987

    In solidarity with Pearl Jam in their decision to cancel the NC show to show support for LGBT rights, I'm offering up one free Wrigley Field night 2 ticket (Monday Aug 22nd) to someone who lost out on the Raleigh date. It's not a Ten Club seat but it's decent: Terrace 213 or something like that. I'll have to look. I got this ticket as insurance. :-) I won't give this to anyone who bashed the band or LGBT rights FYI.

    PM me with proof that you had NC tix and the reason why you should get the free ticket. I'll pick tomorrow.

    Much love to all!

    EDIT: I can mail the hard copy ticket to the winner ASAP via UPS or some kind of traceable carrier. Also, please please please remember these aren't ten club seats. They are decent seats but they aren't TC. I just don't want anyone to miss that part and then be disappointed.

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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,851
    JimmyV said:

    Are they seriously staying at the Four Seasons in Raleigh right now? Because how do you justify cancelling this show as part of a boycott and then pump hotel and restaurant dollars into the local economy? That isn't a boycott. That's taking a midtour vacation.

    Where did you see that?
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • KV4053KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,503
    This has actual economic impact to NC.
    This is a significant impact and it will force businesses to fight the NC government.
    The government will eventually back down.


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  • KV4053KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,503
    I hope all this results in private bathrooms, showers, and locker rooms for everyone. I hate walking into a public restroom and smelling someone else's poop or hearing a dude fart at the urinal next to me
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited April 2016

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!

    And when you land in Chicago from, say Seattle, two days prior to the shows... and they cancel the shows for the discriminatory practices of the Chicago PD... sing the same tune... right?

    You just might so your comment can stand as it is. I'm just saying it's really easy to applaud PJ when you're not sitting in a Best Western in Raleigh twiddling your thumbs.
    I would also be super pissed, but I'd try and make the best out of it. Hang out in Chicago with my wife, have lots of drinks. I get being mad and venting but some of the attitudes on this forum smack of entitlement, like the band only exists for them.
    to me it's understandable. people save sometimes year round for this, and then all that money and sacrifice is worthless. people can be sensitive to the issues but also be upset. it's not mutually exclusive.
    Yeah, but be upset as though their homes just got robbed? A reasonable, adult reaction to a concert being cancelled is, "oh man, bummer. Big huge bummer. Ah well, that's life." The reaction some fans are apparently having to this cancellation meant as a political protest by the band is so ridiculously over the top that it's embarrassing. And tbh, if a huge fan doesn't at least understand where the band is coming from, even if they for some reason feel like this protest is ineffective (despite evidence to the contrary), then I would argue that they don't really understand the band all that well. Also, it's a bit frustrating to see that so many people think that the band should base any of their decisions on the fact that a relatively small minority of fans decide to travel (without cancellation insurance) to see concerts. As though that is supposed to factor into their own plans and actions somehow. I don't understand that expectation.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,973
    HB2 is a shame for the victims of discrimination and those who oppose it. The cancellation of the show is a shame for the fans who had a lot of time and resources dedicated to attending these shows. My sincere condolences to those who'd been planning on attending the 4/20 show. My respect to PJ for doing what they believe is right, regardless of the difficulty of the decision. In the end, the band must live w/ their decisions and they obviously felt they could make a bigger difference and reach a larger audience by canceling the shows. The poor timing of it is a very valid point and one that we may not entirely understand. The music is their voice and sometimes silence speaks loudest of all.

    My wife and I has something similar happen a few years ago when Ed had issues w/ his arm. We had flights, hotel, babysitters, time-off lined up to see the Austin and San Antonio shows. We went ahead and made the trip as planned and, even though we didn't get to see/hear Ed, wound up having an incredible trip. Hopefully many of those traveling into Raleigh get to enjoy a fantastic city and maybe get to meet new and old PJ friends along the way.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited April 2016

    JP Losman said:

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!


    They are making a statement that they are huge hypocrites by not taking a stand against all the explicit racial discrimination in America via the racist voter ID laws. They are making a huge statement by being hypocrites by playing Chile, which has some of the worst human rights violations and laws including no abortions even in the situation of rape.
    That is true. Every country has problems, but when the home turf is being stupid and discriminatory, art can make a difference. I agree that they probably wouldn't have cancelled if Bruce hadn't, but it is what it is.
    Of course they wouldn't have, because Bruce started a wave of it. The band obviously saw the impact the cancellations were having, realized it could have the biggest impact, and made their decision based on that. Kind of odd that some have suggested that them following Springsteen's steps in this somehow diminishes that act. I don't think it does at all. PJ is attempting to escalate the protest, likely with the hope that many others will follow suit as well. Makes sense.
    As for other places they've played with probs... so? They are allowed to pick their battles. Incan't stand this all or nothing theory i keep reading, as though if one chooses to protest one thing at one point in time they must choose to protest all things at all times, and otherwise they are hypocrites. This is such flawed and illogical thinking IMO.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • ZeldaZonkZeldaZonk Seattle Posts: 614

    Hey Pearl Jam and Bruce, thanks for using your fans to make a political statement. It would have been nice if you asked us first though!

    Use your time and money to influence change, not your fans' money.

    The arguments that PJ made a mistake are almost endless.

    Well said. I am one of the many who got burned by the cancellation.
    Forever feeling the sting of Raleigh 2016
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    Publicity Jam

  • theebradnesstheebradness Quincy, IL originally from Weymouth, MA Posts: 280
    PJ_Soul said:

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!

    And when you land in Chicago from, say Seattle, two days prior to the shows... and they cancel the shows for the discriminatory practices of the Chicago PD... sing the same tune... right?

    You just might so your comment can stand as it is. I'm just saying it's really easy to applaud PJ when you're not sitting in a Best Western in Raleigh twiddling your thumbs.
    I would also be super pissed, but I'd try and make the best out of it. Hang out in Chicago with my wife, have lots of drinks. I get being mad and venting but some of the attitudes on this forum smack of entitlement, like the band only exists for them.
    to me it's understandable. people save sometimes year round for this, and then all that money and sacrifice is worthless. people can be sensitive to the issues but also be upset. it's not mutually exclusive.
    Yeah, but be upset as though their homes just got robbed? A reasonable, adult reaction to a concert being cancelled is, "oh man, bummer. Big huge bummer. Ah well, that's life." The reaction some fans are apparently having to this cancellation meant as a political protest by the band is so ridiculously over the top that it's embarrassing. And tbh, if a huge fan doesn't at least understand where the band is coming from, even if they for some reason feel like this protest is ineffective (despite evidence to the contrary), then I would argue that they don't really understand the band all that well. Also, it's a bit frustrating to see that so many people think that the band should base any of their decisions on the fact that a relatively small minority of fans decide to travel (without cancellation insurance) to see concerts. As though that is supposed to factor into their own plans and actions somehow. I don't understand that expectation.
    YES!
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,080
    PJ_Soul said:

    Been a fan since 1992, a member since 2013. A lot of you remind me of Grateful Dead fans, but not the good kind. The annoying kind that thinks that band exists SOLELY for the fan club/hardcore devotees that can afford to travel for a week following a band. I'm a bit jealous, that would be fun, but I have responsibilities and shit, can't afford that.

    They are making a statement against hypocrisy, discrimination and the worst in humanity. Applaud them and hope that they would stand with you if you happen to be part of a "minority" or some other persecuted group.

    See you at the first Wrigley show!!

    And when you land in Chicago from, say Seattle, two days prior to the shows... and they cancel the shows for the discriminatory practices of the Chicago PD... sing the same tune... right?

    You just might so your comment can stand as it is. I'm just saying it's really easy to applaud PJ when you're not sitting in a Best Western in Raleigh twiddling your thumbs.
    I would also be super pissed, but I'd try and make the best out of it. Hang out in Chicago with my wife, have lots of drinks. I get being mad and venting but some of the attitudes on this forum smack of entitlement, like the band only exists for them.
    to me it's understandable. people save sometimes year round for this, and then all that money and sacrifice is worthless. people can be sensitive to the issues but also be upset. it's not mutually exclusive.
    Yeah, but be upset as though their homes just got robbed? A reasonable, adult reaction to a concert being cancelled is, "oh man, bummer. Big huge bummer. Ah well, that's life." The reaction some fans are apparently having to this cancellation meant as a political protest by the band is so ridiculously over the top that it's embarrassing. And tbh, if a huge fan doesn't at least understand where the band is coming from, even if they for some reason feel like this protest is ineffective (despite evidence to the contrary), then I would argue that they don't really understand the band all that well. Also, it's a bit frustrating to see that so many people think that the band should base any of their decisions on the fact that a relatively small minority of fans decide to travel (without cancellation insurance) to see concerts. As though that is supposed to factor into their own plans and actions somehow. I don't understand that expectation.
    Im not sure all the people upset by the decision claim to understand the band. Some people purely enjoy the music, and you know? that is absolutely ok too.

    Its difficult as some folk have been anticipating the show for a long time and don't have the means to travel to see them, of course they will be upset. Is it proportional to the cause? That is purely subjective to each and every one of us.

    But its easy for us not effected to pass comment on those whom are.

    Fact is we'll never know the full story, as to why it was a late cancellation (there is bound to be a reason behind that given Bruce did it on 48 hours notice also), but the band made the call that it was the right thing to do, we have to respect that and ultimately support them in doing it, but its easy to understand that some folk are upset by it.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,567
    KV4053 said:

    This has actual economic impact to NC.
    This is a significant impact and it will force businesses to fight the NC government.
    The government will eventually back down.


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    Lets hope.
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  • ZeldaZonkZeldaZonk Seattle Posts: 614

    In my mind there are 3 parts about the whole

    1.should pj do something about that law and fight for something isnt right??
    For sure they should and proud to be a fan of a band raise their voice for the greatest good
    For pj are in the right side of this.

    2.what they should do??cancel the show makes alot more noise i guess than just say sonething on stage..i dont know if was the right call to make..its their call..i respect it but personally i would prefer they show up and raise hell against the law .make fun of the giverment there..make something and all media next day would talk about it

    3.timing
    For sure is wrong 2 days before date..alot of fans will lose alot of money..no need to mention except money so many people will be sad cos they waiting for the show for months
    What is weird is they did exactly what bruce..2 days before date..maybe has to do with legal matters of their contracts of the show..i dont know..

    Im thinking for exable except the statement of the cancelation someone from the band lets say at 10c radio give an interview and explain their whole thinking about it and say things and explain to the fans.i think would be cool from their part and fans will apreciate it

    I hope they do something cool for everyone has tix and not only the refound..maybe sent them something alot of people are angry and sad..i travel to see the band. Always..i was there at Venice -Italy 07 when they cancel the show cos of the stage destroyed..wasnt their call or fault .was safety but i understand the feeling be at venue and a few hours before show they tell u the show is cancel
    Im sorry for fellow fans was going to that show..i can understand being upset.
    i hope somehow u get something special in return

    Thanks, Dimi. It's really heartbreaking and frustrating. Traveled cross country for two shows, one of which was Raleigh.
    Forever feeling the sting of Raleigh 2016
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