Steve Thomas responded to one of the comments on his Facebook page saying that it'll take a few days to issue all of the refunds. I'm not sure if that speaks to the volume at which they oversold or the logistics of having to reach out to/refund each person.
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets permission to do a second variant of the poster which will be offered to those who are refunded. Those who are disappointed could then be overjoyed at owning the most collectable version.
On a side note if you sell 400 prints on your website at $100. Does the artist get to keep all of the $40,000 minus the printing and eCommerce costs. Presumably they get paid by the band for the artwork in the first place as well. Anyone know how it works?
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets permission to do a second variant of the poster which will be offered to those who are refunded. Those who are disappointed could then be overjoyed at owning the most collectable version.
On a side note if you sell 400 prints on your website at $100. Does the artist get to keep all of the $40,000 minus the printing and eCommerce costs. Presumably they get paid by the band for the artwork in the first place as well. Anyone know how it works?
Does the artist not get to decide the # of prints?
I would have thought it would be their discretion, but I really have no idea to be honest.
at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
We are that much of a force huh?
yup, you guys are a powerful bunch...a force of nature, common man he don't stand no chance... sorry couldn't resist.
at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
If anyone would know... it would be BK!! Thanks for the explanation... really helps us understand the perspective of the artist, and the challenges they face!!
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
Thanks for your input on the situation Brad. I really feel bad for Steve having to deal with this issue. That you're doing one of the posters for Wrigley.
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at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
We are that much of a force huh?
yup, you guys are a powerful bunch...a force of nature, common man he don't stand no chance... sorry couldn't resist.
Only artists who can converse in PJ lyrics should be allowed to design show posters from now on
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papi34 11:36:24
mfcbmw 12:00:54
pulling69 12:01:15
Mayday10 12:01:18
lotsalemon 12:01:35
Buck502000 12:01:38 *
MarcPJfan 12:01:46
Stone McVedder. 12:01:48
scurtis 12:01:49
Leach7 12:01:59
Redrumh2o 12:02:17
BB162610. 12:02:59
Tempo_n_groove 12:02:??
SJD3232 12:02:??
Regulars
Sheets of clay 11:34:00
eanx. 11:37:??
cheesesteak52. 11:55:??
Buck 502000 11:56:16 *
zevilone. 12:00:44
mikechampa. 12:01:08
Alpine Bound 12:01:10
TC282314 12:01:16
nothinasitseems. 12:01:33
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hurricanezeke 12:01:47
frisbiec. 12:02:18
wg 12:03:02
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* - denotes one of each was purchased
i got a regular
12:01:38 variant
Columbia 2008
Charlotte 2013
Seattle 2013
Greenville 2016
Does the earliest time get a prize?
http://nypost.com/2016/08/09/the-david-ortiz-bobblehead-was-too-racist-for-red-sox/
On a side note if you sell 400 prints on your website at $100. Does the artist get to keep all of the $40,000 minus the printing and eCommerce costs. Presumably they get paid by the band for the artwork in the first place as well. Anyone know how it works?
I would have thought it would be their discretion, but I really have no idea to be honest.
at some point, artists who start doing posters for pj are confronted with the reality that there's a much bigger wave of interest then you understand and the tsunami is too much for most sites to withstand... and you get clobbered with exactly the situation steve is dealing with.
It's a bummer on numerous fronts...one, you have all this extra work to deal with that you weren't expecting and all these payments to refund and trying to make sure you do it as fair as you can, and then you have to let people down who were excited to get the poster they thought they ordered for the show they went to. And then there's always the ugly flipper aspect, which you can never fully police and you know some percentage of the posters are not going to go to homes of people who went to the show and want it for their wall or collection but instead are going to some leech who just wants it to make a quick buck.
most template style websites are not built to handle pj poster sales... and you have to custom build a site from scratch to make sure it's capable of handling things.
yup, you guys are a powerful bunch...a force of nature, common man he don't stand no chance... sorry couldn't resist.
it would be BK!!
Thanks for the explanation...
really helps us understand the perspective of the artist,
and the challenges they face!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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