so I'm watching CNN on my lunch. who's on? Mike Pence. at a Carrier press conference. Trump just spent $7m on tax breaks to save 1000 jobs. I was awe as he spoke about not even really considering saving Carrier jobs in the first place, thinking "that ship had sailed". But he mentioned it at one point, which he admits he didn't recall until seeing the video. Now, he's watching the news, "but I won't say which one, I can't stand them, I tell you, I can't stand them, so I won't give them the credit", and he sees an employee of Carrier saying "Trump is going to save my job". He openly admits that the only reason he did this deal was because of the faith of this ONE GUY. He is spending millions of tax payer dollars to appease ONE GUY who said he had faith in him. He said after seeing that on the news, he got on the phone with Carrier's CEO and said "we've got to make a deal".
how many other companies are going to see that and go "hmmm.....I want tax breaks, let's threaten to ship some jobs abroad".
he is single handedly going to bankrupt the US in record time.
and then he'll blame it on the democrats.
What happened to the penalties trump was going to levy against companies that moved to mexico? Carrier made out good in this deal. Not only do they get to move half of the indy plant to mexico, but they get tax breaks for keeping the other half in indiana. Plus, the parent company for carrier, United technologies, "holds billions of dollars in government contracts through the Defense Department and other agencies, contracts over which President Trump would have influence."
What's stopping any company from threatening to move?
States have always given incentives. Nothing new.
Yes, the tax incentives isn't the point. The point is not only is carrier moving to mexico along with half of that plant, but it's parent company is still in line for billions in government contracts. Where are the consequences trump promised?
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
Interesting take. Massive amounts of money given to Carrier for 1,000 employees. Not worth it folks. And the precedent it sets for other companies to threaten to leave is immeasurable.
Does anyone else find it concerning that one of Trump's priorities was to preserve a factory that makes gas furnaces???
so I'm watching CNN on my lunch. who's on? Mike Pence. at a Carrier press conference. Trump just spent $7m on tax breaks to save 1000 jobs. I was awe as he spoke about not even really considering saving Carrier jobs in the first place, thinking "that ship had sailed". But he mentioned it at one point, which he admits he didn't recall until seeing the video. Now, he's watching the news, "but I won't say which one, I can't stand them, I tell you, I can't stand them, so I won't give them the credit", and he sees an employee of Carrier saying "Trump is going to save my job". He openly admits that the only reason he did this deal was because of the faith of this ONE GUY. He is spending millions of tax payer dollars to appease ONE GUY who said he had faith in him. He said after seeing that on the news, he got on the phone with Carrier's CEO and said "we've got to make a deal".
how many other companies are going to see that and go "hmmm.....I want tax breaks, let's threaten to ship some jobs abroad".
he is single handedly going to bankrupt the US in record time.
and then he'll blame it on the democrats.
What happened to the penalties trump was going to levy against companies that moved to mexico? Carrier made out good in this deal. Not only do they get to move half of the indy plant to mexico, but they get tax breaks for keeping the other half in indiana. Plus, the parent company for carrier, United technologies, "holds billions of dollars in government contracts through the Defense Department and other agencies, contracts over which President Trump would have influence."
What's stopping any company from threatening to move?
States have always given incentives. Nothing new.
Yes, the tax incentives isn't the point. The point is not only is carrier moving to mexico along with half of that plant, but it's parent company is still in line for billions in government contracts. Where are the consequences trump promised?
Well, Carrier said they would save $65 million a year moving to Mexico. I believe it was per year. So, $700k of tax credits per year for ten years doesn't seem like a win for them. Perhaps the threat of taking away government contracts was actually the main driver for keeping 1000 employees there. We weren't privy to all the negotiations. There would be no penalty to analyze since Carrier kept the jobs here. Trump isn't President yet either so he doesn't have the authority to penalize, just threaten.
The media is shit right now. They all realized that they got the polls terribly wrong and needed to change their ways. Now all we hear about is the Trump transition and what various sources are saying. Guess what, the sources are all planting information for the media to report and the media just plays along. The media is getting played and they need to start reporting the news. I don't want to hear about the next Secretary of State until Trump announces it. That is when news happens. Not various sources gossiping and using the media to manipulate their objectives. Media - Report the news. Maybe we should ban 24 hour news networks (I don't support that because of freedom of speech but would be happy if they went away).
The media is shit right now. They all realized that they got the polls terribly wrong and needed to change their ways. Now all we hear about is the Trump transition and what various sources are saying. Guess what, the sources are all planting information for the media to report and the media just plays along. The media is getting played and they need to start reporting the news. I don't want to hear about the next Secretary of State until Trump announces it. That is when news happens. Not various sources gossiping and using the media to manipulate their objectives. Media - Report the news. Maybe we should ban 24 hour news networks (I don't support that because of freedom of speech but would be happy if they went away).
Amen..the rush to be first to break a story is ridiculous.Remember the fake names of the Korean plane crash pilots that made it to a teleprompter to be read? Take the challenge..at ANYTIME tonight turn to CNN and I guarantee its a Trump bashing going on.
The media is shit right now. They all realized that they got the polls terribly wrong and needed to change their ways. Now all we hear about is the Trump transition and what various sources are saying. Guess what, the sources are all planting information for the media to report and the media just plays along. The media is getting played and they need to start reporting the news. I don't want to hear about the next Secretary of State until Trump announces it. That is when news happens. Not various sources gossiping and using the media to manipulate their objectives. Media - Report the news. Maybe we should ban 24 hour news networks (I don't support that because of freedom of speech but would be happy if they went away).
What do you mean "they"? It sounds like the media that is shit right now were the ones reporting false mumbo jumbo numbers. That is not news.
What is so great about President-elect Trump is that during his "meeting" with the press head honchos he pretty much said to them "Listen, all you asses have continued to make erroneous headlines throughout my campaign now you will stop and clear it w/ me before you make another headline about me" Look at the media bow now.
What is so great about President-elect Trump is that during his "meeting" with the press head honchos he pretty much said to them "Listen, all you asses have continued to make erroneous headlines throughout my campaign now you will stop and clear it w/ me before you make another headline about me" Look at the media bow now.
That's not a good thing. I want a media that is skeptical of whoever is in power at the time, not colluding with the next person they want to be in power.
so I'm watching CNN on my lunch. who's on? Mike Pence. at a Carrier press conference. Trump just spent $7m on tax breaks to save 1000 jobs. I was awe as he spoke about not even really considering saving Carrier jobs in the first place, thinking "that ship had sailed". But he mentioned it at one point, which he admits he didn't recall until seeing the video. Now, he's watching the news, "but I won't say which one, I can't stand them, I tell you, I can't stand them, so I won't give them the credit", and he sees an employee of Carrier saying "Trump is going to save my job". He openly admits that the only reason he did this deal was because of the faith of this ONE GUY. He is spending millions of tax payer dollars to appease ONE GUY who said he had faith in him. He said after seeing that on the news, he got on the phone with Carrier's CEO and said "we've got to make a deal".
how many other companies are going to see that and go "hmmm.....I want tax breaks, let's threaten to ship some jobs abroad".
he is single handedly going to bankrupt the US in record time.
and then he'll blame it on the democrats.
What happened to the penalties trump was going to levy against companies that moved to mexico? Carrier made out good in this deal. Not only do they get to move half of the indy plant to mexico, but they get tax breaks for keeping the other half in indiana. Plus, the parent company for carrier, United technologies, "holds billions of dollars in government contracts through the Defense Department and other agencies, contracts over which President Trump would have influence."
What's stopping any company from threatening to move?
States have always given incentives. Nothing new.
Yes, the tax incentives isn't the point. The point is not only is carrier moving to mexico along with half of that plant, but it's parent company is still in line for billions in government contracts. Where are the consequences trump promised?
Well, Carrier said they would save $65 million a year moving to Mexico. I believe it was per year. So, $700k of tax credits per year for ten years doesn't seem like a win for them. Perhaps the threat of taking away government contracts was actually the main driver for keeping 1000 employees there. We weren't privy to all the negotiations. There would be no penalty to analyze since Carrier kept the jobs here. Trump isn't President yet either so he doesn't have the authority to penalize, just threaten.
That's still not the point. Yes, I would bet that the federal contracts were a driving force behind the negotiations. But what I'm asking is where is the outrage? Trump specifically said that there would be consequences for companies moving out of the county. Not only does united technology stay I the drivers seat for those government contracts, they get tax breaks/incentives, AND get to go ahead and move half of their plant tor mexico. All without these "penalties."
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
so I'm watching CNN on my lunch. who's on? Mike Pence. at a Carrier press conference. Trump just spent $7m on tax breaks to save 1000 jobs. I was awe as he spoke about not even really considering saving Carrier jobs in the first place, thinking "that ship had sailed". But he mentioned it at one point, which he admits he didn't recall until seeing the video. Now, he's watching the news, "but I won't say which one, I can't stand them, I tell you, I can't stand them, so I won't give them the credit", and he sees an employee of Carrier saying "Trump is going to save my job". He openly admits that the only reason he did this deal was because of the faith of this ONE GUY. He is spending millions of tax payer dollars to appease ONE GUY who said he had faith in him. He said after seeing that on the news, he got on the phone with Carrier's CEO and said "we've got to make a deal".
how many other companies are going to see that and go "hmmm.....I want tax breaks, let's threaten to ship some jobs abroad".
he is single handedly going to bankrupt the US in record time.
and then he'll blame it on the democrats.
What happened to the penalties trump was going to levy against companies that moved to mexico? Carrier made out good in this deal. Not only do they get to move half of the indy plant to mexico, but they get tax breaks for keeping the other half in indiana. Plus, the parent company for carrier, United technologies, "holds billions of dollars in government contracts through the Defense Department and other agencies, contracts over which President Trump would have influence."
What's stopping any company from threatening to move?
States have always given incentives. Nothing new.
Yes, the tax incentives isn't the point. The point is not only is carrier moving to mexico along with half of that plant, but it's parent company is still in line for billions in government contracts. Where are the consequences trump promised?
Well, Carrier said they would save $65 million a year moving to Mexico. I believe it was per year. So, $700k of tax credits per year for ten years doesn't seem like a win for them. Perhaps the threat of taking away government contracts was actually the main driver for keeping 1000 employees there. We weren't privy to all the negotiations. There would be no penalty to analyze since Carrier kept the jobs here. Trump isn't President yet either so he doesn't have the authority to penalize, just threaten.
That's still not the point. Yes, I would bet that the federal contracts were a driving force behind the negotiations. But what I'm asking is where is the outrage? Trump specifically said that there would be consequences for companies moving out of the county. Not only does united technology stay I the drivers seat for those government contracts, they get tax breaks/incentives, AND get to go ahead and move half of their plant tor mexico. All without these "penalties."
I think the point was to keep jobs in the USA, not a bloodlust to penalize companies. In this case they were able to keep 1000 jobs in the USA for a paltry sum of $700 per job for a ten year period which is less than what government/nonprofit expenses would be for 1,000 unemployed people. People are viewing it as a success. Under the current administration and a Hillary administration those 1,000 jobs would be gone without a second of sleep lost so people aren't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
What is so great about President-elect Trump is that during his "meeting" with the press head honchos he pretty much said to them "Listen, all you asses have continued to make erroneous headlines throughout my campaign now you will stop and clear it w/ me before you make another headline about me" Look at the media bow now.
so I'm watching CNN on my lunch. who's on? Mike Pence. at a Carrier press conference. Trump just spent $7m on tax breaks to save 1000 jobs. I was awe as he spoke about not even really considering saving Carrier jobs in the first place, thinking "that ship had sailed". But he mentioned it at one point, which he admits he didn't recall until seeing the video. Now, he's watching the news, "but I won't say which one, I can't stand them, I tell you, I can't stand them, so I won't give them the credit", and he sees an employee of Carrier saying "Trump is going to save my job". He openly admits that the only reason he did this deal was because of the faith of this ONE GUY. He is spending millions of tax payer dollars to appease ONE GUY who said he had faith in him. He said after seeing that on the news, he got on the phone with Carrier's CEO and said "we've got to make a deal".
how many other companies are going to see that and go "hmmm.....I want tax breaks, let's threaten to ship some jobs abroad".
he is single handedly going to bankrupt the US in record time.
and then he'll blame it on the democrats.
What happened to the penalties trump was going to levy against companies that moved to mexico? Carrier made out good in this deal. Not only do they get to move half of the indy plant to mexico, but they get tax breaks for keeping the other half in indiana. Plus, the parent company for carrier, United technologies, "holds billions of dollars in government contracts through the Defense Department and other agencies, contracts over which President Trump would have influence."
What's stopping any company from threatening to move?
States have always given incentives. Nothing new.
Yes, the tax incentives isn't the point. The point is not only is carrier moving to mexico along with half of that plant, but it's parent company is still in line for billions in government contracts. Where are the consequences trump promised?
Well, Carrier said they would save $65 million a year moving to Mexico. I believe it was per year. So, $700k of tax credits per year for ten years doesn't seem like a win for them. Perhaps the threat of taking away government contracts was actually the main driver for keeping 1000 employees there. We weren't privy to all the negotiations. There would be no penalty to analyze since Carrier kept the jobs here. Trump isn't President yet either so he doesn't have the authority to penalize, just threaten.
That's still not the point. Yes, I would bet that the federal contracts were a driving force behind the negotiations. But what I'm asking is where is the outrage? Trump specifically said that there would be consequences for companies moving out of the county. Not only does united technology stay I the drivers seat for those government contracts, they get tax breaks/incentives, AND get to go ahead and move half of their plant tor mexico. All without these "penalties."
I think the point was to keep jobs in the USA, not a bloodlust to penalize companies. In this case they were able to keep 1000 jobs in the USA for a paltry sum of $700 per job for a ten year period which is less than what government/nonprofit expenses would be for 1,000 unemployed people. People are viewing it as a success. Under the current administration and a Hillary administration those 1,000 jobs would be gone without a second of sleep lost so people aren't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
Edit: hate damn auto-correct.
And how was trump saying he was going to keep the jobs in America? Yes, close to 1,000 jobs were saved. But what about the 7-800 jobs that were lost?
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
What is so great about President-elect Trump is that during his "meeting" with the press head honchos he pretty much said to them "Listen, all you asses have continued to make erroneous headlines throughout my campaign now you will stop and clear it w/ me before you make another headline about me" Look at the media bow now.
Yes. You did.
No. I did not. He had them in his pocket the whole time and passed his message willy nilly. Now he has confirmed that w/ them and now they are screwed.
See, he is having fun and smiling and so is a woman beside him.
where is his right hand in that picture?
Are you serious? His wrist is literally visible on the computer, and the only thing that's blocking his hand is the top of the laptop. I've included this so that nobody can blindly believe your lies.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
^^^^its touching an Apple computer that was made in China and that was supposed to be boycotted by all supporters of ESP. what a hypocrite
Is this more circumstantial evidence of the fact he should be impeached? Or just more unimpeachable lies? If it's the latter, how is shining a spotlight on his lies value-added? Supporters of his are willing to look past his lying tendencies - they know about these lies. Undecideds know that he lies, and don't care. Non-supporters know that he lies, and some refuse to embrace the reality (the thing based on facts) that he is overwhelmingly likely to take office in a few months, and would rather act divisively. Mobilizing to prevent Trump from becoming President is much less likely to be effective than mobilizing to prevent some of Trump's proposals from becoming reality.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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we will find a way, we will find our place
Why would this be concerning?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3980726/The-privilege-lifetime-Kellyanne-Conway-tweets-photo-Donald-s-furiously-denying-report-rift-them.html
See, he is having fun and smiling and so is a woman beside him.
Hampton 2016
It sounds like the media that is shit right now were the ones reporting false mumbo jumbo numbers.
That is not news.
Hampton 2016
Hampton 2016
Walk off music.
Look at the media bow now.
Is it colluding though?
All President-elect Trump did was speak his mind.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I said no such thing.
Perhaps the press heard that message.
we will find a way, we will find our place
Edit: hate damn auto-correct.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
we will find a way, we will find our place
He had them in his pocket the whole time and passed his message willy nilly.
Now he has confirmed that w/ them and now they are screwed.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1