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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,909
    JC29856 said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/30/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-washington-movers/index.html

    So much for draining the swamp. Nominating Steve Mnuchin to be Treasury Secretary -- a billionaire hedge fund manager and Goldman Sachs alumnus who preyed on homeowners struggling during the recession -- is a slap in the face to voters who hoped he would shake up Washington," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Adam Hodge in a statement. "Trump is already heading into office as the most corrupt, conflicted, and unpopular president-elect in history, and now he's breaking his signature promise to the voters who elected him."

    Adam Hodge, DC insider, Obama #1 fanboy who couldn't have been more wrong about the 2016 elections up and down the ballots state to state is another one who now knows everything.
    I don't give a shit how wrong he was about the election. pretty much everyone was.

    care to dispute what he said?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,909
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    so he accuses HRC of trying to strip americans of their second ammendment rights during the campaign. now he wants to jail people or even strip them of their citizenship for something that is protected under the FIRST ammendment.

    this is the fuck you people voted for?

    They voted for somebody to effectively troll the left while governing and it is amazing how it just keeps on working.
    everyone knows this is a distraction. the fact you believe that anyone believes his bullshit speaks volumes. he can troll all he wants. all it does is ring the alarm bells about what he's actually doing. he's a fucking idiot.
    Not everybody knows. Trump tweets a position similar to one that Hillary Clinton previously took and then people show up to burn flags outside trump tower. He will probably never push for the policy he tweeted about but he makes the left over react and sandbag themselves. I actually agree with you on the speech issue but in the end it's the left that looks insane burning the flag. That is Trump's genius. Do the dems want to be the party of flag burners? I don't think so but that's how they come across. Next time they should not take the bait.
    there is no genius here.
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    The real conflict of interest is in where Trump receives his funding and bank loans and the investors in his projects. Something his tax returns would reveal. BCCI anyone? Not that the average Trump voter could explain or understand what a conflict of interest is.

    Please let me know when ISIS and radical Islam have been eradicated and when America is great again. The clock starts ticking on January 20th.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,909

    The real conflict of interest is in where Trump receives his funding and bank loans and the investors in his projects. Something his tax returns would reveal. BCCI anyone? Not that the average Trump voter could explain or understand what a conflict of interest is.

    Please let me know when ISIS and radical Islam have been eradicated and when America is great again. The clock starts ticking on January 20th.

    your second paragraph really has to be the dumbest thing trump supporters actually believe (and it seems many of them do). it amounts to trying to kill a ghost.
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    BS44325 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Man, just when I was starting to believe some of this rhetoric about republicans being the crazy flock, I read that the democrats just reelected Nancy Pelosi as their leader. Trump may actually pull off 8 years!

    It really is crazy. The dems have imploded and learned absolutely nothing. The average age of republican congressional leadership is 47 while the average age of democratic congressional leadership is 76. They are old, tired and completely out of ideas and have decided that their party would best be served by Keith Ellison and another dose of San Francisco liberalism. The republicans could have a supermajority in the senate in a few years.
    Not when the white privileged class sees what they want to do to their government benefits, namely social security and Medicare. Throw in the red southern states that get more than they give in government largess and you won't see super majorities in either house. And what great policies or legislation did the republicans formulate over the past 8 years, seeing how you think the Dems were bereft of ideas?
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/30/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-washington-movers/index.html

    So much for draining the swamp. Nominating Steve Mnuchin to be Treasury Secretary -- a billionaire hedge fund manager and Goldman Sachs alumnus who preyed on homeowners struggling during the recession -- is a slap in the face to voters who hoped he would shake up Washington," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Adam Hodge in a statement. "Trump is already heading into office as the most corrupt, conflicted, and unpopular president-elect in history, and now he's breaking his signature promise to the voters who elected him."

    Adam Hodge, DC insider, Obama #1 fanboy who couldn't have been more wrong about the 2016 elections up and down the ballots state to state is another one who now knows everything.
    I don't give a shit how wrong he was about the election. pretty much everyone was.

    care to dispute what he said?
    Is it possible to dispute a campaign promise 50 days before inauguration?
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2016
    BS44325 said:

    he trolled the right, and handily. it got him elected on promises he can never deliver on.

    He has created extremely low expectations for success and the left helped him with that. His "promises" are very loosely defined and his base knows that he is not-ideological. He will be judged on results and results alone. Much slack will be given to him provided his voters feel things are moving in the right direction. The "promise" checklist will not be a problem for him.
    I agree especially if the standard to which Trumps campaign promises are met are measured against Bush and Obama.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

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    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

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    benjs said:

    Trump just announced over Twitter that he'll be "leaving his businesses in total". https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump - so vaggar, that should take the conflict of interest angle off the table.

    You are sounding very naive. That does not take conflict of interest off the table in the least.
    What do you suggest he do?
    Not be president. The man is incapable of not using this power to line his pockets, and the pockets of his family.

    Maybe you should have thought that conflict of interest through before you voted for a con man who is going to steal from you.
    To be fair, Hillary would do the same thing. Clintons went from a net worth of $700K in 1992 to $110M today.
    You're saying trump's business dealings and how he operates is the same as Clinton's? Come on.
    Hillary's business dealings are with those that funded her and were counting on her to win so she could provide influence in their best interests. I would say her conflict of interest is much more then Trump as he self-funded most of his campaign.
    Trump didn't fund his own campaign. He loaned the money to his campaign. Then used campaign money to pay his family and himself for planes & hotels. Trump's campaign is still asking for donors to help repay the loan back to Trump.
    Regardless, he owes no special interest groups or lobbyist anything. They figured he was toast and focused on congressional backing.

    He owes the GOP nothing. They wouldn't touch him with a ten foot poll until after he won.

    Hillary owes (if she won) a lot of people a lot of favors.
    Really? Who do you think the donors are that will shore up those loans now? Who do you think is paying for his victory tour?
    Don't get me wrong. They are coming back to kiss the ring. Kind of like when all the Lords of the North refused to back the bastard of Winterfell and then ended up bending the knee to Jon Snow, King of the North, after he won the battle of the bastards. Romney of all people is breaking bread with the clown.

    Hillary has been an inside fix since the day she backed out of the democratic primary against Obama and cut a deal to be Secretary of State.
    Sorry, you don't get to play the "b-b-b-but Hillary" card anymore. Put that one back in the deck.
    I guess that is your way to justify winning a debate dual. (note: i win :tongue: )
    Won how? Trump still has significant conflicts of interest that have already shown signs of corruption, pay to play, kick backs and other incentives. Welcome to the new kleptocracy.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    benjs said:

    Trump just announced over Twitter that he'll be "leaving his businesses in total". https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump - so vaggar, that should take the conflict of interest angle off the table.

    You are sounding very naive. That does not take conflict of interest off the table in the least.
    What do you suggest he do?
    Not be president. The man is incapable of not using this power to line his pockets, and the pockets of his family.

    Maybe you should have thought that conflict of interest through before you voted for a con man who is going to steal from you.
    To be fair, Hillary would do the same thing. Clintons went from a net worth of $700K in 1992 to $110M today.
    You're saying trump's business dealings and how he operates is the same as Clinton's? Come on.
    Hillary's business dealings are with those that funded her and were counting on her to win so she could provide influence in their best interests. I would say her conflict of interest is much more then Trump as he self-funded most of his campaign.
    Trump didn't fund his own campaign. He loaned the money to his campaign. Then used campaign money to pay his family and himself for planes & hotels. Trump's campaign is still asking for donors to help repay the loan back to Trump.
    Regardless, he owes no special interest groups or lobbyist anything. They figured he was toast and focused on congressional backing.

    He owes the GOP nothing. They wouldn't touch him with a ten foot poll until after he won.

    Hillary owes (if she won) a lot of people a lot of favors.
    Really? Who do you think the donors are that will shore up those loans now? Who do you think is paying for his victory tour?
    Don't get me wrong. They are coming back to kiss the ring. Kind of like when all the Lords of the North refused to back the bastard of Winterfell and then ended up bending the knee to Jon Snow, King of the North, after he won the battle of the bastards. Romney of all people is breaking bread with the clown.

    Hillary has been an inside fix since the day she backed out of the democratic primary against Obama and cut a deal to be Secretary of State.
    Sorry, you don't get to play the "b-b-b-but Hillary" card anymore. Put that one back in the deck.
    I guess that is your way to justify winning a debate dual. (note: i win :tongue: )
    Won how? Trump still has significant conflicts of interest that have already shown signs of corruption, pay to play, kick backs and other incentives. Welcome to the new kleptocracy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGcaNY5eBWw
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    Jason P said:

    CM189191 said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    benjs said:

    Trump just announced over Twitter that he'll be "leaving his businesses in total". https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump - so vaggar, that should take the conflict of interest angle off the table.

    You are sounding very naive. That does not take conflict of interest off the table in the least.
    What do you suggest he do?
    Not be president. The man is incapable of not using this power to line his pockets, and the pockets of his family.

    Maybe you should have thought that conflict of interest through before you voted for a con man who is going to steal from you.
    To be fair, Hillary would do the same thing. Clintons went from a net worth of $700K in 1992 to $110M today.
    You're saying trump's business dealings and how he operates is the same as Clinton's? Come on.
    Hillary's business dealings are with those that funded her and were counting on her to win so she could provide influence in their best interests. I would say her conflict of interest is much more then Trump as he self-funded most of his campaign.
    Trump didn't fund his own campaign. He loaned the money to his campaign. Then used campaign money to pay his family and himself for planes & hotels. Trump's campaign is still asking for donors to help repay the loan back to Trump.
    Regardless, he owes no special interest groups or lobbyist anything. They figured he was toast and focused on congressional backing.

    He owes the GOP nothing. They wouldn't touch him with a ten foot poll until after he won.

    Hillary owes (if she won) a lot of people a lot of favors.
    Wow, that's incredibly naive. You've been fooled. He is apart of the very establishment you thought you voting against. You think he doesn't owe anyone? Why in the hell do you think he picked Bannon as his top aide?
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    BS44325 said:

    so he accuses HRC of trying to strip americans of their second ammendment rights during the campaign. now he wants to jail people or even strip them of their citizenship for something that is protected under the FIRST ammendment.

    this is the fuck you people voted for?

    They voted for somebody to effectively troll the left while governing and it is amazing how it just keeps on working.
    Its really hard to believe people can be that fooled by an obvious con artist.
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    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    You forgot angry, uneducated, and uninformed
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2016

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    It is mind boggling how Hilliary lost to a relative unknown black male in the 08 primary on the simple and vague promise of "hope and change" then got trounced 306-232 in this years general by Trump with all his baggage and his message of wall building and swamp draining.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
    edited November 2016
    JC29856 said:

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    It is mind boggling how Hilliary lost to a relative unknown black male in the 08 primary on the simple and vague promise of "hope and change" then got trounced 306-232 in this years general by Trump with all his baggage and his message of wall building and swamp draining.
    Here's 27 pages of the vague promises Obama made while campaigning:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

    Meanwhile, Trump can't fart without contradicting himself, flip-flopping, or outright lying. Usually all 3 at once.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,909
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/30/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-washington-movers/index.html

    So much for draining the swamp. Nominating Steve Mnuchin to be Treasury Secretary -- a billionaire hedge fund manager and Goldman Sachs alumnus who preyed on homeowners struggling during the recession -- is a slap in the face to voters who hoped he would shake up Washington," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Adam Hodge in a statement. "Trump is already heading into office as the most corrupt, conflicted, and unpopular president-elect in history, and now he's breaking his signature promise to the voters who elected him."

    Adam Hodge, DC insider, Obama #1 fanboy who couldn't have been more wrong about the 2016 elections up and down the ballots state to state is another one who now knows everything.
    I don't give a shit how wrong he was about the election. pretty much everyone was.

    care to dispute what he said?
    Is it possible to dispute a campaign promise 50 days before inauguration?
    when this particular promise actually happens right after the election and way before inauguration, um, yeah.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    It is mind boggling how Hilliary lost to a relative unknown black male in the 08 primary on the simple and vague promise of "hope and change" then got trounced 306-232 in this years general by Trump with all his baggage and his message of wall building and swamp draining.
    Here's 27 pages of the vague promises Obama made while campaigning:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

    Meanwhile, Trump can't fart without contradicting himself, flip-flopping, or outright lying. Usually all 3 at once.
    after 8 years 96% of obama voters couldn't name 3 campaign promises other than obamacare which was national romneycare!
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    JC29856 said:

    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    It is mind boggling how Hilliary lost to a relative unknown black male in the 08 primary on the simple and vague promise of "hope and change" then got trounced 306-232 in this years general by Trump with all his baggage and his message of wall building and swamp draining.
    Here's 27 pages of the vague promises Obama made while campaigning:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

    Meanwhile, Trump can't fart without contradicting himself, flip-flopping, or outright lying. Usually all 3 at once.
    after 8 years 96% of obama voters couldn't name 3 campaign promises other than obamacare which was national romneycare!
    Wait a second...

    wait... one... second.

    You're actually coming to Trump's defence. You're authentically a supporter.



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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
    JC29856 said:

    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I guess it's not that hard to believe considering g how many racist and sexist people there are in this country.

    It is mind boggling how Hilliary lost to a relative unknown black male in the 08 primary on the simple and vague promise of "hope and change" then got trounced 306-232 in this years general by Trump with all his baggage and his message of wall building and swamp draining.
    Here's 27 pages of the vague promises Obama made while campaigning:
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

    Meanwhile, Trump can't fart without contradicting himself, flip-flopping, or outright lying. Usually all 3 at once.
    after 8 years 96% of obama voters couldn't name 3 campaign promises other than obamacare which was national romneycare!
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    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    are you only concerned with "american kids"?
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    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    Better yet is he ready to send he's own family members off to war !
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    I know you are sick and tired of it. Obama was sick and tired of it as well. That is why he made the foreign policy decisions he made and that is why the vacuum came to be. As long as you are aware that those decisions come with terrible consequences then so be it. Others on here argue that all is good...that Obama's decisons were consequence free. At least you admit to being indifferent to genocide. That type of honesty is a breath of fresh air.
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    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    I know you are sick and tired of it. Obama was sick and tired of it as well. That is why he made the foreign policy decisions he made and that is why the vacuum came to be. As long as you are aware that those decisions come with terrible consequences then so be it. Others on here argue that all is good...that Obama's decisons were consequence free. At least you admit to being indifferent to genocide. That type of honesty is a breath of fresh air.
    "indifferent to genocide". GIVE. ME. A. FUCKING. BREAK.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    I know you are sick and tired of it. Obama was sick and tired of it as well. That is why he made the foreign policy decisions he made and that is why the vacuum came to be. As long as you are aware that those decisions come with terrible consequences then so be it. Others on here argue that all is good...that Obama's decisons were consequence free. At least you admit to being indifferent to genocide. That type of honesty is a breath of fresh air.
    Seriously, it's like people don't remember how peaceful the Middle East was before Obama founded ISIS.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    I know you are sick and tired of it. Obama was sick and tired of it as well. That is why he made the foreign policy decisions he made and that is why the vacuum came to be. As long as you are aware that those decisions come with terrible consequences then so be it. Others on here argue that all is good...that Obama's decisons were consequence free. At least you admit to being indifferent to genocide. That type of honesty is a breath of fresh air.
    Seriously, it's like people don't remember how peaceful the Middle East was before Obama founded ISIS.
    Nobody has argued that. In fact I have argued the opposite.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I'm reading through some of the hawks on here chirp about "Obama failed foreign policy"

    I guess you want American troops on the ground in Syria? Maybe we should have gone into Crimea

    I frankly find Obamas restrained foreign policy of the last 8 years to be a breath of fresh air... all of the conflicts and issues in the world are not America's problem, they aren't my problem, and they sure as fuck aren't some 18 year old Americans problem to die for

    Yes...the genocide in Syria is such a breath of fresh air.
    Not the first genocide and not the last... not the first civil war and not the last... not the first disgusting behavior by the uman race and not the last

    You think America, our tax dollars, and our youth should be the world police? American military presence with boots on the ground in every major world conflict?

    I've listened to hawks like John McCain call for Obama to stay in Afghanistan, stay in Iraq, go into Syria, intervene in Crimea, etc, etc, etc...and then blame Obama for every world problem

    It's total bullshit and I'm fucking sick of it

    Go play Risk if you want to be an armchair general, that way no American kids get killed
    I know you are sick and tired of it. Obama was sick and tired of it as well. That is why he made the foreign policy decisions he made and that is why the vacuum came to be. As long as you are aware that those decisions come with terrible consequences then so be it. Others on here argue that all is good...that Obama's decisons were consequence free. At least you admit to being indifferent to genocide. That type of honesty is a breath of fresh air.
    "indifferent to genocide". GIVE. ME. A. FUCKING. BREAK.
    Nope. No break for the indifferent.
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